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13 years ago
glam
But doesn't this response by Oprah sound EXACTLY like what LGAT grads are told by their "coaches?" I know grads who've formed independent chat groups online have been told the same thing -- just come to us with your problems, don't talk amonst yourselves or online. It's just a way of hushing people up.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
glam
Ah, well, at least she mentioned the "c" word in this column. It might give her readers something to think about. They probably had no idea Landmark would show up on a cult website. Hope she turned off that Google alert. :wink: Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
glam
Oh, and there's his post from 08-29-2005, more than a year ago... QuoteI think if you familiarize with the philosophy and psychology behind the forum, then you'll probably escape unscathed .. Who knows, you might even make up with an estranged relative or come out of your shell or benefit in some other way .. My feeling is that if I can sit in a room for 15 hours for 3 straight days,
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
glam
Well, I've already pretty much expressed that I think Trooper is a troll. He's barely posted here, but somehow last year went from thinking his Landmark girlfriend was "drinking the kool-aid" and supposedly attending a meeting with her that made him feel uncomfortable to, very quickly, pointing out all the great things Landmark did for her....then almost nothing for a year
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
13 years ago
glam
The posts seem to be missing quite a lot of detail. And what are the chances the Landmark folks are reading these posts and haven't called anyone out for exposing their "copyrighted" material online? Starting to smell fishy... Isn't it odd that this person only covers the stuff everyone already knows about....and seems to be having an OK time at the Forum, while "
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Hmmmm. I went back and re-read the article. And it still sounds like a long ad/PR piece for Landmark. "It's a three-day seminar that teaches you through direct, personal discovery how to create breakthroughs in your life." Sounds like an endorsement. "Part of the forum is to write a letter to someone with whom you have been inauthentic. The other part is to inv
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
QuoteAs I come to the end of this letter, I'm scared that you won't like me when I take my column to the next level. I'm scared, too, that you will expect me to be amazing - more amazing than I can possibly be - because I have leveled with you and because I am a graduate of the Landmark Forum. Why would readers expect someone to be "amazing" (more amazing than one can p
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Quoteturambar I still go up to my old summer music camp occasionally to wash dishes, for the same reason. I think I've scrubbed toilets up there too. The music camp is a for-profit organization, too, but it wouldn't run without a large cadre of people who are grateful for what they got out of it. The mean old woman who runs the camp was pretty nasty to me while I was growing up, bu
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Quotecritical_thinker Sometimes a message that is for our own good is said in terms we don't want to hear. Wouldn't you rather have had your father and mother confront you as a child, rather than let you become a convicted, felonious tortfeasor? Is that who you blame for the fact that you got involved in a cult? Your mother and father? Because they didn't confront you as a chi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Quoteturambar With Landmark, you're basically paying some people to scour literature for good ideas, and then put together a presentation for you. I did the same thing in college. Most people say that college helped them, a few say that college was harmful, but I've never heard anyone say that college was a conspiracy. Why then do some people here say that Landmark must be? Are th
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
From the official website: Episode 101: “CULT CLASSIC” After their car is rear-ended by 1970s icon Sally Kellerman (MASH, Back To School), Jackie and Tara are drawn into the world of “The Platform”, a so-called self-help group spearheaded by a charismatic ex-agent. Tara quickly embraces the “step up” way of life, leaving Jackie, convinced it’s a cult – but if Jackie is going to save her best
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
I'm wondering when Landmark will sue Elle. They're mentioned in the article, as I recall. Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
What a sad video. What an incoherent group of people. Not something that will draw many people to the cult, is my guess. Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Has anyone read this month's Elle magazine? There's an article about the Sterling Men's Weekend -- the author went to the women's weekend. Rick Ross is quoted in the article. Can't find it online...anyone have a link? Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
It's also spawned a very quick little back-and-forth on the Atlanta Films board. As usual, when est or Landmark are mentioned on a non-cult-related forum, someone brings up the "cult" word...jeez, you just can't get in a good, unadulterated plug for any of Werner's stuff these days. :wink:
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Hey, it's been reviewed: Quote Transformation: The Life & Legacy of Werner Erhard Rating: (1.5 out of 4) Directed by: Robyn Symon Starring: Werner Erhard, Don Lattin, Jane Self, Michael Jenson, Randy McNamara, Warren Bennis Review: "Transformation: The Life & Legacy of Werner Erhard" (AFF) PDF Print E-mail Written by Michael D Friedman
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
From his consistent misspellings and obvious use of language patterns/same old lame defenses/ad hominems, I'd make an educated guess that it's our old friend Tex/Conway/Leibnitz/PaulKeith/ConcernedSister/LoveBunny/Etc. again. Guess he's bored over at AFL, since so many of us ignore him now. Can't get the rise out of us he once did. Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
First thing I'd do is check out/read all the stuff avail. on this site...under "getting help," "mind control," etc. Education is step 1. It's painful when someone you know gets pulled into something like this. Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Quoteestie * Things aren't always what they seem. Your "share" about the man who forgave his abusive father others have commented on. Perhaps we should mention that many of these remarkable moments are setups, orchestrated to get people emotionally involved. This "amazing" (disturbing, if you ask me) outcome could very well be a big fat choreographed lie. Gla
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
QuoteestieHey y'all! :roll: Thought I'd check out your "alternate universe". (I usually post on a.f.l.) I don't agree that all Werner wanted was the money. I think the godwannabe wanted adulation, devotion, worship, and - - immortality. Did a pretty good job of it, what with all those clones he created to carry on even after he was gone. estie -- "there
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
His website reads like it was written by a third-grader. Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
I understand you wanting to find the good in it, but the fact that your friend is raving about how it changed her life forever is probably not a sign that she's looking at it rationally. :wink:
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
QuoteAlex_Rush Did you see that Landmark revenue is up 50% in the last two years from $50 to $75 million? Complete elimination? Reform? Equally improbable? As someone else pointed out, it's impossible to know whether any claims Landmark makes are true, because they're so secretive about their finances. But assuming their revenue really is up 50% in the last two years, you do realiz
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
In fact, groups like these purposely target intelligent people. One way they play on your emotions is to have you believe you're privy to "insight" the "common man" will simply never understand. As others have advised, I would be concerned but not panicked. Read as much as you can, and understand the process of thought control. The "meeting" your friend atten
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
It's good that you're at the company to offer your perspective. Imagine what inroads they might have made otherwise. Hopefully this woman will give some thought to what you said and begin questioning Landmark herself. You've probably saved a number of people from involvement. Glam
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Ellen GRABOWITZ, from Westchester, NY: Quote"Prior to my 6 years on the board, I was very involved in PTA and district wide committees. I led the effort to build playgrounds in the 3 elementary schools, sat on an earlier Superintendent and principal selection committees and district management teams. Professionally, I manage the behavioral health care of over 1 million New Yorkers, ass
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
Yep...Landmark obviously submits press releases about their "graduates" pretty regularly...I see them pop up fairly often. Disgusting.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
QuoteAcid ReindeerLeola stated that she first divorced her husband, then met the Forum Leader, then took Landmark. if you don't respond to what people post on these messageboards as supposed to what you would have liked them to have posted, then you fall into that same error that you don't like, where you ignore the facts and go with what you like to believe. you also can't make
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
14 years ago
glam
WOW. I just caught the lastest episode of South Park. Absolutely amazing how they've just taken on Scientology. Here's an article from ABC news: QuoteChef Gets Big Send-Off on 'South Park' Isaac Hayes' Chef Character Gets True 'South Park' Send-Off During Premiere of 10th Season NEW YORK Mar 22, 2006 (AP)— Isaac Hayes' Chef character got a true &qu
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