QuoteHow do I proceed if I value the friendship of this person? Stay friends with him, but don't get involved in Landmark yourself. Talk about other things you have in common, things you've done in the past, fun times you've had together. And if you have the time and inclination, try to read as much as you can about Landmark...it may help you to understand what your friend is goi
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What's almost funny is the assumption that babies are happy, joyous and carefree, and that when they discover their "self" (at age 2) is when all the "trouble" begins. From a Landmark In Action seminar: QuoteWinning formulas did not begin when we were born. Babies are ONLY possibility. Around age 2, language descends on us. Before that, there was no identify. T
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More notes on the "self" from a Landmark attendee: QuoteYour Mind is not You – Your Self is You My self (my soul?) is by nature loving, giving, sharing, joyous. My mind is often cynical, critical, skeptical, conservative, selfish, etc. My mind is an inherited mechanism designed to enhance my chances of survival by keeping me "safe", by its own definition. It is fairly a
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I thought it was very interesting to hear a Landmark grad say almost word for word what cult experts have discovered...that cultic groups make you give up your identity. I'm sure if I asked someone still involved in Landmark directly they'd deny it, but there it is in black and white! So sad to think of what my friend is still going through.
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Oh, completely undertstandable. Or he could just move to another state, of course. Glam, your fellow cynic
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Well, the experts say that this is what "transformation" actually is, but here it is in the words of a Landmark grad assuring a fellow grad that what he's going through will lead to transformation: Quote Your identity is incredibly powerful and it will get you to do whatever it wants you to do if you let it. A human beings identity is so powerful it can even get them to k
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That's great! I just wish he'd been nailed before he hurt you. Glam
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I can't get to the full articles without paying, but here are the beginnings: QuoteGentle Wind Project sues couple over Internet postings Published on January 9, 2005    Page: A1 © 2005- Blethen Maine Newspapers, Inc. Byline:    GREGORY D. KESICH Staff Writer The Gentle Wind Project collected millions of dollars in donations by distributing plastic healing instruments that belie
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Hi, lovingife, You're in the UK? So many of my friends are from there. Whereabouts are you from?
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Coz wrote: QuoteBut i have never met a senior Ad person, or even a lower level Ad person, who didn't think they were doing great things for the world. But in the end it is all about Persuasion... Well, you've "met" one now. :wink: Actually, I think the best thing I'm doing right now is trying to warn people away from cults. :D
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Ellen asks: QuoteWhat do you think about Wilson Bryan Key? Oh, I remember learning all about "subliminal seduction" in college....I believed every word of it then. However, Key has since been debunked by a variety of people. In my two decades in the ad biz, I've never seen any instance of "subliminal seduction" in the forms Key claimed. Is there seduc
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QuoteLandmark Hunger Project. They claimed they would end world hunger by a certain date- and asked participants to collect donations for the Hunger Relief thing... and they collected a whole bunch of money. I'm a little unclear on the facts but wasn't it like 7 million dollars collected? Then some pesky Canadian newspaper did a story checking up on where that money was going. They tele
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Just so you know, Coz: I'm an "ad professional." Maybe we're not all so bad?
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QuoteBut I unreservedly say that cults are a good thing; that the people who join them are normal, and they do so for very good reasons. Healthy societies need cults. Cults are, if you like, the spores of change in a society. Every major religion in the world was a cult at one time. Christianity was simply one of many mystery cults in eastern Mediterranean 2,000 years ago. , like the Mormons and
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Can I be a thermostat controller? Please, please, pretty please?
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Quotewhat makes it most frightening is that as blatant as it is, most Landmarians would buy right direction into it, unquestioned. Indeed. I've already have one chastise me for being so "negative" about Landmark's wanting to "help" with their version of "leadership."
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The quote's from Rick...on his landing page. :) I know...it is sick, isn't it?
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Quotehe old adage “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts” may be useful to Tsunami survivors receiving attention from some specious sects and groups called “cults.” Just like in the movie Troy something sinister and/or self-serving can be concealed in a "gift horse," and it’s probably not Brad Pitt. In recent days a growing array of controversial religious organizations, gurus and self-sty
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It seems Douglas Atkins simply asked cult members why they "joined" their cult and what benefit they got out of it, and came away with quite a misunderstanding of what actually happens to people who are recruited into cults and have their entire mindsets taken over. Maybe Rick should get in touch with him (Merkley and Partners) and explain how it actually works.
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:lol: Funny! Your posts are terrific, Marc. But now I'm even more worried about my friend. He recently purchased real estate that was well beyond his means, and of course it all happened after he became involved in LEC. :(
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Simply another twisting of a definition used to get people to give up thinking for themselves...
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QuoteAnd in every crazy group out there, they find a nice way of replying "who cares?" With Landmark, it's "so what?" (As in, "Oviously the truth is what's so . It's also so what?") Landmark also takes it a step further and tells the complaining masses that they ARE doing something to change. And they do make tiny, insignificant changes -- like they&
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I do wonder about that, too. Landmark as a group seems to be overrepresented by posters here. Is it because Landmark is not as good at "transformation" as other groups, so people have more doubts and venture onto the Internet to find info? Is it because Landmark actually encourages people to visit this site and post in an attempt to subvert the board? Surely Landmark isn't as la
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QuoteHere you go: People's experiences Independent Case Studies And how many newspaper articles can you find at: Newspaper Articles List I'm sorry...you must have misunderstood. I asked for research and newspaper articles that offer substantiated, measurable results, not testimonials from attendees who are likely to be under hypnotic or other psychological influences,
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QuoteSo. Please! Stop saying there aren't results produced. There are, and you can find plenty of research and newspaper articles to that effect too! Sure there are. Could you please point us to research and newspaper articles that offer substantiated, measurable results produced by Landmark?
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Of course, there is no hard information available about the so-called "real results" produced by Landmark. Don't you find this a bit surprising, considering they've been in business for more than 30 years now? If they did produce real, measurable results, they'd be shouting it to the heavens.
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QuoteYou can't come to any harm in most of these courses. If anything, you might come to more harm staying home getting stressed and wound up, wondering what the answer is Please be aware that this is a sales pitch for an LGAT. Please note that "livinglife" hadn't said anything of substance in his/her post. There's nothing "taught"in these "courses"
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Did I? How quickly did it pop up over on alt.fan.landmark, posted by "Tex?"
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Quote Why are you acting like this, Glam? Do you have a url for the article or not? I'd really like to see it. If you don't want to post it, then say so. I'm just curious: why are you posting here? Looking back over your posts, I can't seem to tell why you're here. Have you been involved in a destructive group? Has one of your loved ones? Why, of all the information
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Hi Toni: Yes, it does seem that a good number of those who are rejected (or ejected) from their groups go on to join another, similar group...est years later leads to Landmark, or to Avatar, or to Scientology, or to Sterling... Perhaps this is a reason people become "'tweeners." They're still upset at being cruelly ejected from an organization to which they gave tremendo
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