QuoteOnce you establish common ground or an issue upon which you can agree, a customer (mark) is more likely to agree with what you say next. In addition, once someone makes some sort of declaration, he most likely feels an obligation to hold to that declaration in order to remain consistant. Don't know why but lots of people are fooled by this one. Exactly. In this case, the LECcie cou
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I'm not as familiar with all this as you are, but I think I've heard of a free personality test as a way to hook people into Scientology. I think this "I got out with no ill effects and you, can, too!" approach is even more nefarious. These people are approaching people who HAVE heard that LEC is a cult and DO feel it's dangerous, have even gone so far as to check out
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Hi Acid Reindeer: Quoteeveryone who pays for the course or has somebody else pay for the course feeds the machine. it may seem morally neutral to take a course or two, don't recruit anyone and drop out. still, you have given them a minimum of $395. I consider that a major strike against the (sensible) idea of going through training, taking what you can take, leaving the rest. it
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Yeah, I never got the Dr. Phil/diet connection. He still looks overweight to me! Once Oprah started hanging with Deepak Choprah (was it because their names ryhme?) she started getting weird. Dr. Phil was the final straw. Not that I've ever been much of an Oprah fan, but I do remember a time when I considered her to be an intelligent person. If you watch her show now (I try to avoid it), y
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I've heard somewhere that Dr. Phil has taken Landmark Training. It sure sounds lke it, from this bit from his website: QuoteLife Law #1: You either get it or you don't. Strategy: Become one of those who gets it. Life Law #2: You create your own experience. Strategy: Acknowledge and accept accountability for your life. Understand your role in creating results. Life Law #6: Th
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I'm the anti-Landmark person....my "ad" above was meant to be an over-the-top rephrasing of what I've been hearing from a few supposedly "neutral" people online when it comes to Landmark. These folks say they wouldn't recommend it, but then they go on to say they got a lot of good stuff out of it and that you should attend but leave quickly. :D I'm not
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Which ads?
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QuoteIf we can identify exactly when these discontent ads were targeted at specific age groups of children and adolesents, we can then see if this was tied to a corresponding surge in diagnoses for depression in those same age groups. Next, we can study how prevalent these advertising campaigns are in various parts of Europe and the UK, note which age groups were targeted and whether rates of
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I've noticed some people (or is it one person registering as different people?) posting on this forum and others both publicly and privately with a new marketing/advertising strategy for Landmark/Sterling. The headline: Just take a few of our seminars and then get out! The copy: Curious about Landmark or other LGATs? Worried that you might become a "true believer?" W
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From nature.com article, "Brain scans show hypnosis at work" (http://www.nature.com/news/2004/040906/full/040906-18.html): Michael Hopkin Trance impairs brain's ability to plan one's own actions. From the BA Festival of Science, Exeter, UK. A brain-imaging study has shed light on why some people are more susceptible than others to hypnosis. By hinting at the brain proc
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I think many Americans believe in the "American Dream": that one can come from nothing and break out of one's social class and become a huge success if only one knows the "secret." Oprah, Bill Gates and many Hollywood stars come to mind as examples of the so-called "American Dream." I think many of the Human Potential hucksters feed off that American quest for t
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Hi! I also applaud honest research into LGATs. I think it would great if more people took a close and public look at what happens in these groups. I'm sure some, if not most, of these requests for interviews and information are legitimate, especially the ones from Australian 60 Minutes. However, I have noticed a few "students" doing "research" into Landmark online rece
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QuoteOne of my best friends has recently been sucked into the Sterling Institute of Relationships: an LGAT that is often compared to Landmark, Est, etc. That goes without saying our friendship has changed considerably. Many of the accounts presented in this thread resonate with me. There seems to be an unhealthy power dynamic as my friend has become quite judgemental of how I live my life and con
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Hi Oz, Sorry to hear things are going this way. This is recent for you, and it must be painful. Painful for you and for Jane, who must be feeling shame, confusion and guilt about a situation where she was victimized. I think she may well need further counseling and information before she's able to deal with what happened, but it sounds like she's not ready to go there right now. I wi
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You're not promoting Landmark...but your tip is to enroll? Is there a conflict there? Glam
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Hi, Oz, Yes, very sad. And your story even sadder! Are you still in touch with your ex? How long ago did this happen? Has she gotten counseling? Here's the worst part of my friend's story: his wife's in LEC, too. So whatever he believes about this "mechanical" stuff I'm sure his wife is learning, too. His family is in, too. So he's surrounded by a cadre of
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Hi! Just reading this for the first time. My Landmark friend gave me the same interview, same questions. But since I know one of the objectives in any of these coercive groups is to make the LEC participant doubt himself and feel guilt for his "flaws," whether real or imagined, I would give only positive answers to the questions. He looked, while he was "interviewing" me, as i
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Has everyone read the info available on the rick ross site? I've been following the expert advice to be open and caring with your Landmark loved one, and it really works. My friend was pretty arrogant and dismissive ("you'll never get it," he snapped at me once), but he really turned around once I started acting supportive. In fact, he now chats happily with me and has spilled
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