What interests me even more is the brain physiology that allows our minds to "snap" after a certain period of lack of rest, food, an unusual amount of stress, etc., and allows other humans to "control" our thought processes and actions to a large degree, at least for a while. According to Pavlov, a similar physiology in dogs leads them to "snap" and have a sort of re
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A new book, Breaking the Spell, sounds interesting: QuoteFROM OUR EDITORS Faith-based initiatives; evolution vs. intelligent design; the right to life vs. the right to choose; gay marriage; international terrorism: Even if you're not a believer, you can ignore religion only at your own risk. In this provocative book, philosopher Daniel C. Dennett asserts that religion is a cultural pheno
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The study is on the RRI site:
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Has anyone heard of this? Sounds odd. Someone in NY is offering a "workshop."
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QuoteAcid ReindeerQuoteSL1993What's the Newsgroup? I'd like to view that thread. alt.fan.landmark, probably. Nope. The newsgroup has absolutely nothing to do with Landmark or cults, as I said. There's no reason for anyone to view the thread there, and I'm a bit suspicious of the motives of someone who feels he/she needs to invade another newsgroup. I was simply making an
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Quotesonnie_deeSorry missed answer about who pays for the scholarship Landmark does. Graduates do not specifically put money into a "scholarship account" basically the person who is getting the scholarship is in the programme but Landmark is not making any money from them Who pays for "scholarships?" (Known in the ad biz as the "free sample..." a way to get peo
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QuoteSL1993I've been watching this board for years, occasionally asking a question here and there. I don't recall insulting anyone, and if I did, I'm sure it was unintentional. What is your gripe here? Watching this board for years? Why? Who've you insulted? Look back at your own posts. Unintentional? Hardly. What's my gripe? Nothing, really. But I've ask
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Why are you here? You've asked questions and insulted people, but so far there's no indication of why you're here or what your stand is on Landmark.
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Why? There are plenty of threads about LEC here. And your past posts are kinda questionable.
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On a newsgroup I frequent that has absolutely nothing to do with cults, Landmark, etc., someone started a thread about The Forum because her friends have been recommending it to her. I was amazed at: 1. How many people have attended the Forum; 2. How many others know about it and consider Landmark a cult; 3. How many people have had relationships end because their significant other took
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You can view the entire episode here:
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I'm not familiar with the group specifically, but that's an awful lot of red flags for an art commune.
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Pay careful attention to his claims, as well. While it may be true that things improved after he did LEC courses, it may also be true that this didn't really happen...that he's "stretching" the truth a bit. One thing Landmark does very well is to convince people that every good thing that happens is because of Landmark (while every bad thing that happens is because of the p
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Oprah had Brooke Shields on yesterday to answer Tom Cruise's obnoxious comments about her post-partum depression. I was curious to see what would unfold, because Oprah's suuuuuch good friends w/ T.C. You could see that Brooke was a bit hesitant to say much because I'm sure she's aware of the friendship. At one point Oprah asked her if she couldn't have just "cure
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Ugh...how sad & disturbing to "hear" that jargon again, from a fresh recruit.
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Although you may not be able to extricate your friend, it is much easier to warn people who haven't been to a seminar or meeting yet. It can be as simple as pointing them to some reding material and asking them to decide for themselves.
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According to the article in this month's Glamour by a woman who left Scientology, she was in the organization since she was a child (I think she left when she was about 20) and still hadn't gotten to OT3, despite being very heavily involved—she was in the Sea Org. Also, she breaks Scientologists into two groups: People like her, who are heavily into the organization, attend Scientology
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Pick up a copy of September's Glamour magazine—a woman who was in the Sea Org and left the CO$ a few years ago has an article in this issue. The CO$ asked to see the article before it was published, but Glamour refused. I've been trying to find the article on the internet, but no luck so far.
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Don't go. Get "sick" if you must. Don't listen to your boss when he starts to call you out on "keeping your word." This is exactly the sort of nonsense Landmark wants to drill into your mind to keep you coming. This should be the spark that gets you looking for that new job.
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Don't base your self-worth on one person's opinion of you. If this person cares for you, he should accept you as you are, not because you've been talked into experiencing what it's like to be in his cult. Landmark is quite dangerous, and I highly recommend you stop payment on your check. You should get quite a taste of how much they (including your friend) will harrass y
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QuoteWe Are Belief-Making and Belief-Consuming Creatures. Seriously. Do people who take Landmark "training" just go to thesaurus.com and find synonyms for Landmark "ideas?" Landmark="We are Meaning-Making Machines." Ugh. Sorry if any of you are involved in this...from the website, it sounds like a carbon-thesaurus.com-copy of Landmark. Glam
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QuoteAcid Reindeer the topic had to do with what effect these abuses had on est's public image rather than the abuse itself. What effect did it have? Landmark is alive and thriving. Amazing, but after all the bad press, all they needed was a new name and they're doing just fine. QuoteQuoteif you have a critique of Landmark then use some facts, not scare words like questionable.
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QuoteAcid Reindeer by the time the scandals came about est, the company already had a solid existence and a hardcore of dedicated followers. Cuddle Party has no such solid base. I find it amazing that you're still arguing this. You must have a lot invested in defending your experiences in alternate sexual activities. While the scandals may have become public after est had an establis
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QuoteAcid Reindeer the founder of CuddleParty, has a business right? if he maintains a tense atmosphere where anyone feels threatened, his business will collapse fast. (ditto if an assault takes place, by the way.) You're forgetting the assaults and nervous breakdowns that have happened as a result of the Forum and other cults...yet LEC and other cults are still in business and are in
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I respectfully disagree. A website that tells people who go to these things that they have the choice of whether to be touched or not sounds very much like my Landmark friend insisting that the "peeing rules" "aren't like that any more," and also very much like the 'tweeners I've chatted with who insist you're free to pee whenever you like and then go into
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AR: You've said, basically, we shouldn't question/make assumptions about something we haven't tried ourselves. That's very close to saying we must experience it to question it. Perhaps your alarm bells aren't going off, but for some of us, they are. I don't believe anyone here has gotten hysterical or shown even an ounce of "fear": rather, we're que
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QuoteAcid Reindeer yes it does. cults often employ an element of truth to suck you in. so you use logic and evidence to evaluate both your hopes and, as on this thread, your fears. seeing a lot of irrational fear on this thread. Where do you see irrational fear? I see group of people who are quite familiar with the tactics and language of a variety of cults and LGATs recognizing those things in
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Was it here or somewhere else that I read the article about the core group of "disciples" that follow the creators from cuddle session to cuddle session? The whole thing just reeks of LGAT hypersexuality. To say "cultures all of the world have extreme ways of breaking down the ego and they have not only strengthened the person but strengthened the society" sounds very much lik
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There have already been articles written about how "creepy" the experience was. And it creeps many of us out just to read the website, it's so Landmark-like.
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Quotegrub Would a well written group reply to everyone be wise in this situation? Not a ranting "Landmark is a disgusting, money-grubbing cult" diatribe but a well thought out few paragraphs of why Landmark is an addictive organization. It'd probably drive in a bit of a wedge between us . Hmmm...tough one. A group response to everyone might not only drive a wedge between you a
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