Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
rrmoderator
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Date: August 20, 2010 09:57PM
There is a Web site called "all business.com" where various businesses are listed.
At the Web site you can find records regarding many companies.
Speed Rathbun and wife Amy are listed there under "publishing."
The Rathbuns list their same home address in Hastings, Nebraska, as their business address.
The business the Rathbuns own and operate was reportedly founded in 1992.
This publishing business reportedly has only two employees, which seem to be Speed and Amy Rathbun.
The company has reported estimated annual sales of $93,000.00 concerning its "misc. publishing."
The source for the information is cited is Hoovers's and D&B (Dun and Bradstreet).
What do you think "misc. publishing" is all about?
Could that be the "letters" and/or other religious materials?
Is this the way Timothy makes his money?
Is being a "prophet" profitable?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/21/2010 09:08PM by rrmoderator.
At the Web site you can find records regarding many companies.
Speed Rathbun and wife Amy are listed there under "publishing."
The Rathbuns list their same home address in Hastings, Nebraska, as their business address.
The business the Rathbuns own and operate was reportedly founded in 1992.
This publishing business reportedly has only two employees, which seem to be Speed and Amy Rathbun.
The company has reported estimated annual sales of $93,000.00 concerning its "misc. publishing."
The source for the information is cited is Hoovers's and D&B (Dun and Bradstreet).
What do you think "misc. publishing" is all about?
Could that be the "letters" and/or other religious materials?
Is this the way Timothy makes his money?
Is being a "prophet" profitable?
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/21/2010 09:08PM by rrmoderator.
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
FreeYoMind
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Date: August 20, 2010 11:42PM
btw. its also strange that timothy calls himself "Timothy Lfgahc" on the net... whats that!? (facebook, myspace and so on)
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
Sparky
()
Date: August 20, 2010 11:53PM
rrmoderator, I have never seen anyone on the Christian/Cult circuit that doesn't make some money from their flock. While these published "New letters from jesus" claim to be "free" to download, I imagine there is the constant drum-beat of the "seed-money" whine to already guilt-ridden followers.
(i.e.:"Give from your wallet to the ministry and you are planting the seeds of your future where God will repay you 10 fold" or something like this).
People who think Speed is in this out of the kindness of his heart or his "calling" they are sadly mistaken...in this case to the tune of $93,000.00
Speed is doing nothing that any new-age "channeler" hasn't done better ("Seth" comes to mind).
I would like to hear other people following this thread respond to your thoughtful and helpful posting.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/20/2010 11:59PM by Sparky.
(i.e.:"Give from your wallet to the ministry and you are planting the seeds of your future where God will repay you 10 fold" or something like this).
People who think Speed is in this out of the kindness of his heart or his "calling" they are sadly mistaken...in this case to the tune of $93,000.00
Speed is doing nothing that any new-age "channeler" hasn't done better ("Seth" comes to mind).
I would like to hear other people following this thread respond to your thoughtful and helpful posting.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/20/2010 11:59PM by Sparky.
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
Sparky
()
Date: August 20, 2010 11:56PM
Quote
phillyQuote
SparkyI think the christian cults may have a better chance of escape since the New Testament clearly teaches that when a "Teacher" (or PROPHET such as the self-proclaimed voice of 'god', Timothy) makes an end-times claim and it is WRONG (even by a day, a week or a month according to the Bible) then that teacher/prophet is a FALSE teacher/FALSE prophet and must be shunned immediately.
Hi Sparky
Can you tell us where in the Bible it says this (all good ammunition saved up for the right time and place).
Thank you
Philly[/quote
First, I am not preaching, just trying to give one answer and source to your question:
Please note that having several fulfilled prophecies and even a single false prophecy still means that the person is not a true prophet of God. The test for a prophet is not if he gets them most right, but all right. The Bible says...
"But the prophet who shall speak a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he shall speak in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21 "And you may say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 "When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him," (Deut. 18:20-22).
I will find futher quotes and I know I have seen one in the new Testament as well. They all make the same claim, Prophets must be 100% correct 100% of the time or they are not speaking for YHWH.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/21/2010 12:00AM by Sparky.
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
Sparky
()
Date: August 21, 2010 03:29AM
philly,
Also see here:
New Testament, Book of Matthew
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. .
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
So when Speed claims in his "New Letters from Jesus" anything I think you can assume he is a liar and/or deluded. Why does Jesus need a person like Speed to clarify his gospels further?
Apparently Jesus doesn't...but Speed and his wife do to make a bunch of money.
Also see here:
New Testament, Book of Matthew
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. .
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
So when Speed claims in his "New Letters from Jesus" anything I think you can assume he is a liar and/or deluded. Why does Jesus need a person like Speed to clarify his gospels further?
Apparently Jesus doesn't...but Speed and his wife do to make a bunch of money.
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
FreeYoMind
()
Date: August 22, 2010 03:47AM
LISTEN TO THIS CONFUSED SISTER I CURRENTLY TALKED TO! When i talked to her, a week ago she admitted, that she feels a spirit of rage and confusion in the letters. Suddenly she told me, that she fully believes in the letters, without any doubt.
Me
k..let me now what u wanna know... no doubt in jesus, but much doubt in this world
20:44Deceived Daughter
THE LETTERS TO TIMOTHY
20:44Me
yep
20:45Deceived Daughter
WHY
20:45Me
cuz god told me so. is the grace of jesus not sufficient? Why timothy?
20:45Deceived Daughter
WHY YOU, WHY ME?
WHY NOT???
WHAT DID JESUS THE CHRIST DIE FOR???
20:47Me
for our sins
20:47Deceived Daughter
SO WE COULD BE RESTORED TO THE FORMER UNION IN THE GARDEN WITH THE LORD GOD.
AND SOOOOOOO MUCH MORE!!!
WE WERE ABLE TO JUST THINK, AND THEREFORE WE WERE!!!
20:47Me
yek. but really, i believe that timothy is being misled by a evil spirit
20:47Deceived Daughter
WE WERE ABLE TO JUST BREATHE, AND THEREFORE WE LIVED!!!
20:48Me
it teaches the law
as if jesus sacrifice would not be enough
20:48Deceived Daughter
HE TEACHES LAW WITH GRACE AND FAITH
JESUS CAME TO NOT DO AWAY WITH THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS, BUT TO FULFILL AND BECOME THEM.
TO BECOME YOU AND ME IN THE FLESH.
WITH GOD'S VERY OWN HOLY SPIRIT!!!
20:49Me
yes! This is the new covenant
20:49Deceived Daughter
THAT IS WHY THE PHARISEES AND SADUCEES LIKE PAUL, WANTED TO CRUCIFY JESUS!!!
BECAUSE OF THEIR SELF RIGHTEOUS JEALOUSY!!!
THEY WANTED HIM CRUCIFIED SO BAD, THAT THEY PROCLAIMED NOT ONLY CRUCIFY HIM, BUT LET HIS BLOOD BE ON US AND OUR CHILREN!!!
20:50Me
u know what i learned: the letters want to separate. it is a spirit of separation, whMe is speakin to timothy. cuz there is no love in this spirit.
20:51Deceived Daughter
YOU HAVEN'T READ ALL OF THE LETTERS, THEN.
YOU HAVE ONLY READ IN PART. LIKE A GLASS DIMLY LIT.
20:51Me
no
20:51Deceived Daughter
YES
WAKE UP
20:51Me
i havnt red em all
but i have red enough.
20:52Deceived Daughter
WELL THEN THERE IS ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY. GET THE REST OF THE STORY, BEFORE YOU JUDGE.
20:52Me
even trent wants to separate from his wife because of the letters
i talked to her
this is a spirit of separation and it comes from the devil
i dont get foold that easily
20:52Deceived Daughter
YOU WILL BRING ALL KINDS OF NEEDLESS TROUBLES ON YOU AND YOURS, FOR CURSING WHEN YOU SHOULD BE BLESSING THE ANOINTED OF GOD!!!
20:52Me
cuz god is in me
and leads me
20:53Deceived Daughter
CUZ GOD IS IN ME AND TRENT AND YOU AND TIMOTHY!!!
20:53Me
yes
i dont question that
20:53Deceived Daughter
WHAT SPIRIT ARE YOU SPEAKING IN???
20:53Me
but god may also be in a lot of other deceived people
its not a matter of "bein saved" or not
20:53Deceived Daughter
ARE YOU GOD, HIMSELF THAT YOU SHOULD MAKE A PROUD ARROGANT STATEMENT LIKE THAT???!!!
20:54Me
no
but god himself told us
20:54Deceived Daughter
DID YOU WATCH THOSE VIDEOS OF JEZEBEL THAT I ASKED YOU TO WATCH???
20:54Me
that there are a lot of people going to be deceived and the devil wants to try to destroy the relationship between his and his elected, if he could
yes
20:55Deceived Daughter
YES, AND YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
20:55Me
the strange guy from these 3 parts?
20:55Deceived Daughter
THOMAS, EAT, PRAY, LOVE.
WATCH THE MOVIE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
20:55Me
please tell me if this is the movie you talked about
20:56Deceived Daughter
READ HIS STORY, AGAIN AND AGAIN IN HIS HOLY WORD UNTIL IT IS BIRTHED IN YOU, COMPLETELY.
20:56Me
guy with beard talkin' strange prophecies?
20:56Deceived Daughter
THAT WAS ONE, BUT LILY PROPHETIC WORSHIP, DID A FOUR PART STUDY ON JEZEBAAL IN THE CHURCH.
IT SOUNDS TO ME, LIKE THE SCALES HAVE NOT FALLEN FROM YOUR EYES TO REALLY SEE AND HEAR.
YOU ARE SEEING THE GLASS HALF EMPTY INSTEAD OF HALF FULL, LIKE DOUBTING THOMAS.
20:57Me
what do i need the letters for?
please tell me
is it not all written in the bible?
what news do the letters bring?
20:58Deceived Daughter
THOSE THAT WAIT/TARRY IN TH UPPER ROOM, SHALL MOUNT UP ON EAGLES WINGS; THEY SHALL WALK AND NOT BE WEARY; THEY SHALL RUN AND NOT FAINT.
PENTECOST IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, HASN'T HAPPENED OR BEEN BIRTHED IN YOU YET.
THEREFORE, TARRY OR WAIT.
DON'T JUMP HASTILY TO CONCLUSIONS
20:59Me
how can u know that?
20:59Deceived Daughter
GOD TOLD ME.
20:59Me
oh, thats good.
20:59Deceived Daughter
AND WHEN I SAY GOD TOLD ME, I MEAN GOD TOLD ME.
21:00Me
but he told me different.
thats strange
21:00Deceived Daughter
WHY DO YOU THINK I AM TALKING TO YOU RIGHT NOW???
21:00Me
cuz u are yourself not sure if the letters are demonic or not.. honestly thats what i believe
u hide yourself behind words.
but deep inside, u are not sure.
21:01Deceived Daughter
I WAS JUST PRAYING IN TONGUES IN MY PRAYER CLOSET, AND GOD TOLD ME TO TALK WITH YOU AND TELL YOU THESE THINGS, FOR HE TRULY CARES AND LOVES YOU MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER KNOW, AND SO DO I!!!
21:01Me
thats waht i believe
21:01Deceived Daughter
WELL, UNTIL YOUR WELL IS DEEP AND NOT SHALLOW MINDED, YOU WILL REMAIN EMPTY.
21:01Me
if the letters are true, god will show me
21:02Deceived Daughter
YES HE WILL
21:02Me
he knows that i have spirit, that is willing to learn
21:02Deceived Daughter
YES HE DOES
21:02Me
but i believe that god is RIGHT NOW showing me different
you know..
I believe in god
not men
thats a huge difference
21:02Deceived Daughter
THAT IS WHY HE IS CHASTENING/CHASING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!
21:02Me
i dont believe in timothy or someone else in this world.
21:02Deceived Daughter
HE DOESN'T WANT YOU TO BELIEVE IN ANYONE BUT HIM
21:03Me
i only trust god alone
21:03Deceived Daughter
YET, YOU ARE INBALANCED IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES. NOT WILLING TO WAIT?
21:03Me
everything else has to be proofed by god himself
21:03Deceived Daughter
WHEN YOU AND I QUESTIONED TOGETHER REGARDING THESE VERY THINGS, WE PRAYED THAT GOD WOULD SHOW US.
21:03Me
how long are u reading these letters?
21:04Deceived Daughter
DID YOU WAIT LONG ENOUGH???
21:04Me
the strange thing is, god revealed that immedeately after this conversation.
21:04Deceived Daughter
I READ SOME JUST THE OTHER DAY, AND IT WAS ADMONISHING IN LOVE.
IT WAS CORRECTING IN LOVE.
21:04Me
when did u start?
21:05Deceived Daughter
I STARTED READING GODS WORD WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG, PRACTICALLY A TODDLER.
21:05Me
no im talking bout the letters
21:05Deceived Daughter
HE PUT THAT VERY DESIRE IN MY HEART.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD, AS WELL.
21:05Me
come on..
thats not a fair discussion
21:06Deceived Daughter
DO YOU THINK THAT ALL OF THE GIFTS ENDED WAY BACK WHEN???
GET REAL!!! GET A GRIP ON REALITY!!!
YOU ARE MORE DELUDED AND DECEIVED THAN YOU KNOW!!!
21:07Me
If god tells ME so, i will believe you.
At the very moment my god told me different.
cuz he did not reveal these things to me for nothing
21:07Deceived Daughter
READ IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT IN THE LAST DAYS MY MEN SERVANTS AND MAID SERVANTS SHALL DREAM DREAMS AND HAVE VISIONS AND PROPHECY!!!
21:07Me
yes
21:07Deceived Daughter
WHO IS YOUR GOD??? YOUR SELF???
21:07Me
no, he is called I AM
21:08Deceived Daughter
JEZEBAAL??? AHAB???
THESE GODS CALLED THEM SELF THE I AM TOO
SO DOES OBAMA
SO DOES HILARY
21:08Me
I AM not the God but the God is called I AM
21:08Deceived Daughter
SO DOES ANYONE THAT EXALTS THEIR SELF ABOVE THE MOST HIGH
THERE IS A BALANCE TO THAT AS WELL
DO YOU KNOW THE BALANCE???
21:09Me
tell me
read about him: [en.wikipedia.org]
21:09Deceived Daughter
OR ARE YOU BEING WEIGHED IN THE BALANCES AND FOUND WANTING??? LIKE NEBECHUDNEZZARS SON, BELTESHAZZAR.
I AM NOT SURE THAT IS HOW YOU SPELL THOSE NAMES, BUT IF YOU KNOW THE WORD, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
READ ABOUT THESE VERY PEOPLE IN THE WORD, TODAY, IF POSSIBLE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO CRAWL AROUND ON THE GRASS, FEEDING ON IT LIKE AN ANIMAL FOR SEVEN YEARS, DO YOU???
21:11Me
But stop judging me, cuz thats really hurtin the heart of god.
21:11Deceived Daughter
READ THE/HIS STORY.
THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN/SON!!!
21:12Me
yep. this is the time of great deception.
21:12Deceived Daughter
AREN'T YOU WRONG FULLY JUDGING TIMOTHY, TRENT, YOUR SELF AND ME???
21:12Me
nope. i am just judging spirits not men
i do believe that you have a heart for jesus.
21:13Deceived Daughter
JUDGE NOT, LEST YOU BE JUDGED AND WITH THE SAME AMOUNT YOU JUDGE, YOU SHALL BE JUDGED.
IF YOU REALLY KNOW THE WORD LIKE YOU SAY YOU DO,
21:13Me
did i say that?
21:13Deceived Daughter
THEN YOU WILL TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AT LEAST THAT MUCH!!!
21:13Me
i just said that god is workin within me
21:13Deceived Daughter
PRIDE COMETH BEFORE A GREAT FALL!!!
21:14Me
i do not have much biblical knowledge, but god is present in my life and leads me in love and truth.
i am convinced that he told me to reject these letters.
21:15Deceived Daughter
HUMPTY DUMPTY SAT ON THE WALL; HUMPTY DUMPTY HAD A GREAT FALL; ALL THE KINGS HORSES AND ALL THE KINGS MEN, COULDN'T PUT BROKEN HUMPTY DUMPTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN, BECAUSE HE WAS TO PROUD TO ADMIT THAT HE WAS WRONG BY WAIVERING BACK AND FORTH ON THE BRICK WALL TO BEGIN WITH. HE WAS AN EGG HEAD!!!
21:15Me
This is really not nice
cuz im just searchin truth
21:15Deceived Daughter
I AM DONE WITH YOU FOR NOW.
COME BACK WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES.
I AM NOT GOING TO SUGAR COAT ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY!!!
21:16Me
So you can not forgive me not believing in the letters?
I thought u can do so
21:16Deceived Daughter
I AM NOT CALLED TO DO THAT!!!
I FORGIVE ALL WHO THE LORD GOD CALLS ME TO FORGIVE OR LOOSE
AND I BIND ALL THOSE WHO THE LORD GOD TELLS ME TO BIND, UNTIL THEY CAN TRULY UNDERSTAND.
21:17Me
The lord tells you to even forgive your enemies... but i dont know what these letters say about that
but the holy scriptures say so
21:17Deceived Daughter
EVIDENTLY, YOU DID NOT WATCH THOSE VIDEOS ON JEZEBAAL AND REALLY SEE THEM.
21:17Me
i can forgive you, for believeing in the letters
21:18Deceived Daughter
THE PROPHETS OF OLD WERE STONED, AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT!!!
THEY DIDN'T SUGAR COAT ANYTHING UNLESS GOD TOLD THEM TO.
21:18Me
As i said, i dont wanna stone you.
21:18Deceived Daughter
SUGAR IS DEFINITELY FOR BABIES.
21:19Me
I can forgive you for havin a different view on the letters
21:19Deceived Daughter
A SPOONFUL OF SUGAR HELPS THE MEDICINE GO DOWN!!!
YOU AREN'T RECEIVING THE MEDICINE
YOUR BODY IS REJECTING IT
I WOULD THAT YOU WERE NEITHER HOT NOR COLD, SO THEREFORE REPENT, OR I SHALL SPEW YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH,BODY!!!
21:20Me
hm, according to my god i have already been forgiven.
21:20Deceived Daughter
AS YOUR BODY IS REJECTING CHRIST BECAUSE OF YOUR LUKEWARMNESS
21:20Me
its really strange
why does god tell me that i have been forgiven for my sins?
am i not??
i hope so!
21:21Deceived Daughter
THE LIE THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED IS A GODLESS, BLASPHEMOUS PUKE, RIGHT FROM THE PIT!!!
WAKE UP!!! BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!
21:21Me
Now i got the spirit dwellin in you.
Cuz the letters support "once saved, always saved"
there is a letter for this
21:21Deceived Daughter
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN ME, ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN!!!
21:22Me
i dont accuse you
21:22Deceived Daughter
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME!!!
21:22Me
i accuse the spirit talking to timothy
cuz he is a deamon
I will pray 4 you sister!
21:22Deceived Daughter
IF I CAST OUT DEMONS WITH DEMONS, A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNNOT STAND!!!
YOU NEED TO PRAY FOR YOUR SELF!!! YOUR PLANK IN YOUR EYE JUST HIT ME IN THE FACE!!!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???
DO YOU REALLY KNOW THE WORD THAT BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US???
21:24Me
You know, jesus loves me
thats a fact
and i dont need any other love
than his
21:25Deceived Daughter
IF YOU KNOW THAT, THEN YOU ALSO KNOW THAT HE LOVES ME, AND TRENT AND TIMOTHY AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WILL LET!!!
21:25Me
yes
thats also a fact
i never said anything else
he loves you guys
21:25Deceived Daughter
WE ALL NEED EACHOTHER IN CHRIST. A MAN CANNOT STAND ALONE AS AN ISLAND, APART FROM THE BODY!!!
21:26Me
u are right
definetely
21:26Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE SETTING YOUR SELF UP FOR FAILURE
SELF IS THE KEY WORD HERE
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???
21:26Me
I am a member of the body of christ.
so i know
21:27Deceived Daughter
IF YOU WANT TO STAND AS AN ISLAND ALONE, CHRIST CAN SPEW YOU OUT IF YOU WANT HIM TO!!!
BE NOT DOUBLE MINDED
21:27Me
he wont do that
21:27Deceived Daughter
FOR YOU SURELY WILL NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM GOD
21:27Me
cuz im his child
21:27Deceived Daughter
READ JAMES
READ JAMES
21:28Me
i know the scpriture of james
but why do you have to hate me for not believing in the letters?
21:28Deceived Daughter
READ JAMES AND THE OTHER STUFF THAT WE TALKED OR REASONED TOGETHER ABOUT, AND I SHALL PRAY
AND THEN GET BACK TO ME
I LOVE YOU
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???
21:28Me
u say so, but i dont feel any love.
21:28Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE MY BROTHER
I WANT IT TO STAY THAT WAY
WHEN YOU AND YOUR SIBLINGS OR FAMILY WERE DIVIDED OVER SOMETHING
DID YOU STILL LOVE THEM???
21:29Me
yep
21:29Deceived Daughter
OR DID YOU HATE THEM???
21:30Me
so does god love me, even as a damn sinner.
21:30Deceived Daughter
IF YOU KNOW ME, YOU KNOW THAT I AM NOT TALKING JUST TO HEAR MYSELF TALK
I CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF THE FAMILY
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
21:30Me
yes of course.. everybody of the body should do so
not only you
21:30Deceived Daughter
OK
LETS LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE FOR NOW
21:31Me
and i think a true brother or sisters cares
so do i care for you
cuz it does not matter to me if you do believe in the letters or not
if you are a child of god, you are my sister.
21:31Deceived Daughter
THEN YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU ENOUGH TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, EVEN WHEN IT HURTS AND I EXPECT AND EVEN DEMAND IT FROM YOU
I EXPECT NOTHING LESS THAN THE UNADULTERATED TRUTH
I AM TIRED OF BEING LIED TO OR DELUDED OR DECEIVED!!!
CAN YOU LOVE ME ENOUGH TO ACCEPT THAT???
21:32Me
yes!
21:32Deceived Daughter
ALRIGHTY THEN
21:33Me
but i unfortunately believe, that this is just happening to you.
the letters are from the devil.
21:33Deceived Daughter
WE'LL TALK SOON AFTER A LITTLE SOUL SEARCHING
AND PRAYING AND INTERCEDING
21:33Me
thats what i am doing day for day
EVERYDAY
21:33Deceived Daughter
FOR OURSELVES AND FOR EACHOTHER
21:33Me
u know?
21:33Deceived Daughter
YES, I DO
THAT IS WHY YOU AND I ARE TALKING RIGHT NOW
21:34Me
but do not fear, god will get this things right.
u ARE a child of god
21:34Deceived Daughter
AND WE SHALL TALK AGAIN AND MANY TIMES AFTER THAT, GOD WILLING
21:34Me
so why fear?
21:34Deceived Daughter
I FEAR NOTHING
21:34Me
you fear the letters being a lie
21:34Deceived Daughter
I HAVE A REVERENTIAL AWESTRUCK WONDER OF MY CREATOR
BUT I FEAR NOTHING FOR I NO LONGER LIVE UNDER CONDEMNATION WHMe IS FROM SATAN
READ REVELATIONS
SEE HOW ALL OF US ARE FORE WARNED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
WAS IT SUGAR COATED???
EVEN THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS. WAS IS SUGAR COATED???
21:36Me
nope
21:36Deceived Daughter
FEED ON HIS WORD
WE SHALL TALK LATER
21:36Me
yep, but i wont feed on the letters anymore
21:36Deceived Daughter
MY DAUGHTER NEEDS ME NOW
21:36Me
cuz they bring fear and confusion
21:37Deceived Daughter
IF THAT IS WHAT THEY BRING, DON'T FEED ON THEM
21:37Me
and sparation
21:37Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE NOT TO A POINT TO WATCH RATED R MOVIES/LETTERS YET
21:37Me
definetly not
21:37Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE STILL UNDER AGE/MINOR
21:37Me
cuz im a CHILD of god
21:37Deceived Daughter
I HAVE TO GO
21:37Me
these dont watch such things ;);)
k
much love & dont worry so much
21:38Deceived Daughter
PUT THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ON A SHELF
AND WE SHALL TALK OF THEM LATER
I LOVE YOU BRO, GOD SPEED.
21:38Me
i believe you accepted these letters too quickly
who is god speed?
21:38Deceived Daughter
I ACCEPTED THE VERY WORD OF THE LIVING GOD, NOTHING ELSE AND NOTHING MORE
PUT GOD SPEED UP ON A SHELF
I HAVE TO GO NOW
WE SHALL TALK MORE LATER, GOD WILLING
21:39Me
Speed is your god.
thats the problem
21:40Deceived Daughter
GOD SPEED MEANS LET HIS KINGDOM COME AND HIS WILL BE DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER ACCORDING TO HIS SPEED.
21:40Me
k..
much love to u and ur family
21:40Deceived Daughter
IN HIS TIMELESS REALM]
21:40Me
i seen the pics of ur precious ones
some hugs for em'
talk 2 ya later
21:41Deceived Daughter
MUCH LOVE TO YOU AND YOURS, AS WELL, FOR YOU ARE MINE AND MINE IS YOURS FOR WE ARE TRULY ONE IN CHRIST
Me
k..let me now what u wanna know... no doubt in jesus, but much doubt in this world
20:44Deceived Daughter
THE LETTERS TO TIMOTHY
20:44Me
yep
20:45Deceived Daughter
WHY
20:45Me
cuz god told me so. is the grace of jesus not sufficient? Why timothy?
20:45Deceived Daughter
WHY YOU, WHY ME?
WHY NOT???
WHAT DID JESUS THE CHRIST DIE FOR???
20:47Me
for our sins
20:47Deceived Daughter
SO WE COULD BE RESTORED TO THE FORMER UNION IN THE GARDEN WITH THE LORD GOD.
AND SOOOOOOO MUCH MORE!!!
WE WERE ABLE TO JUST THINK, AND THEREFORE WE WERE!!!
20:47Me
yek. but really, i believe that timothy is being misled by a evil spirit
20:47Deceived Daughter
WE WERE ABLE TO JUST BREATHE, AND THEREFORE WE LIVED!!!
20:48Me
it teaches the law
as if jesus sacrifice would not be enough
20:48Deceived Daughter
HE TEACHES LAW WITH GRACE AND FAITH
JESUS CAME TO NOT DO AWAY WITH THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS, BUT TO FULFILL AND BECOME THEM.
TO BECOME YOU AND ME IN THE FLESH.
WITH GOD'S VERY OWN HOLY SPIRIT!!!
20:49Me
yes! This is the new covenant
20:49Deceived Daughter
THAT IS WHY THE PHARISEES AND SADUCEES LIKE PAUL, WANTED TO CRUCIFY JESUS!!!
BECAUSE OF THEIR SELF RIGHTEOUS JEALOUSY!!!
THEY WANTED HIM CRUCIFIED SO BAD, THAT THEY PROCLAIMED NOT ONLY CRUCIFY HIM, BUT LET HIS BLOOD BE ON US AND OUR CHILREN!!!
20:50Me
u know what i learned: the letters want to separate. it is a spirit of separation, whMe is speakin to timothy. cuz there is no love in this spirit.
20:51Deceived Daughter
YOU HAVEN'T READ ALL OF THE LETTERS, THEN.
YOU HAVE ONLY READ IN PART. LIKE A GLASS DIMLY LIT.
20:51Me
no
20:51Deceived Daughter
YES
WAKE UP
20:51Me
i havnt red em all
but i have red enough.
20:52Deceived Daughter
WELL THEN THERE IS ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY. GET THE REST OF THE STORY, BEFORE YOU JUDGE.
20:52Me
even trent wants to separate from his wife because of the letters
i talked to her
this is a spirit of separation and it comes from the devil
i dont get foold that easily
20:52Deceived Daughter
YOU WILL BRING ALL KINDS OF NEEDLESS TROUBLES ON YOU AND YOURS, FOR CURSING WHEN YOU SHOULD BE BLESSING THE ANOINTED OF GOD!!!
20:52Me
cuz god is in me
and leads me
20:53Deceived Daughter
CUZ GOD IS IN ME AND TRENT AND YOU AND TIMOTHY!!!
20:53Me
yes
i dont question that
20:53Deceived Daughter
WHAT SPIRIT ARE YOU SPEAKING IN???
20:53Me
but god may also be in a lot of other deceived people
its not a matter of "bein saved" or not
20:53Deceived Daughter
ARE YOU GOD, HIMSELF THAT YOU SHOULD MAKE A PROUD ARROGANT STATEMENT LIKE THAT???!!!
20:54Me
no
but god himself told us
20:54Deceived Daughter
DID YOU WATCH THOSE VIDEOS OF JEZEBEL THAT I ASKED YOU TO WATCH???
20:54Me
that there are a lot of people going to be deceived and the devil wants to try to destroy the relationship between his and his elected, if he could
yes
20:55Deceived Daughter
YES, AND YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.
20:55Me
the strange guy from these 3 parts?
20:55Deceived Daughter
THOMAS, EAT, PRAY, LOVE.
WATCH THE MOVIE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
20:55Me
please tell me if this is the movie you talked about
20:56Deceived Daughter
READ HIS STORY, AGAIN AND AGAIN IN HIS HOLY WORD UNTIL IT IS BIRTHED IN YOU, COMPLETELY.
20:56Me
guy with beard talkin' strange prophecies?
20:56Deceived Daughter
THAT WAS ONE, BUT LILY PROPHETIC WORSHIP, DID A FOUR PART STUDY ON JEZEBAAL IN THE CHURCH.
IT SOUNDS TO ME, LIKE THE SCALES HAVE NOT FALLEN FROM YOUR EYES TO REALLY SEE AND HEAR.
YOU ARE SEEING THE GLASS HALF EMPTY INSTEAD OF HALF FULL, LIKE DOUBTING THOMAS.
20:57Me
what do i need the letters for?
please tell me
is it not all written in the bible?
what news do the letters bring?
20:58Deceived Daughter
THOSE THAT WAIT/TARRY IN TH UPPER ROOM, SHALL MOUNT UP ON EAGLES WINGS; THEY SHALL WALK AND NOT BE WEARY; THEY SHALL RUN AND NOT FAINT.
PENTECOST IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, HASN'T HAPPENED OR BEEN BIRTHED IN YOU YET.
THEREFORE, TARRY OR WAIT.
DON'T JUMP HASTILY TO CONCLUSIONS
20:59Me
how can u know that?
20:59Deceived Daughter
GOD TOLD ME.
20:59Me
oh, thats good.
20:59Deceived Daughter
AND WHEN I SAY GOD TOLD ME, I MEAN GOD TOLD ME.
21:00Me
but he told me different.
thats strange
21:00Deceived Daughter
WHY DO YOU THINK I AM TALKING TO YOU RIGHT NOW???
21:00Me
cuz u are yourself not sure if the letters are demonic or not.. honestly thats what i believe
u hide yourself behind words.
but deep inside, u are not sure.
21:01Deceived Daughter
I WAS JUST PRAYING IN TONGUES IN MY PRAYER CLOSET, AND GOD TOLD ME TO TALK WITH YOU AND TELL YOU THESE THINGS, FOR HE TRULY CARES AND LOVES YOU MORE THAN YOU COULD EVER KNOW, AND SO DO I!!!
21:01Me
thats waht i believe
21:01Deceived Daughter
WELL, UNTIL YOUR WELL IS DEEP AND NOT SHALLOW MINDED, YOU WILL REMAIN EMPTY.
21:01Me
if the letters are true, god will show me
21:02Deceived Daughter
YES HE WILL
21:02Me
he knows that i have spirit, that is willing to learn
21:02Deceived Daughter
YES HE DOES
21:02Me
but i believe that god is RIGHT NOW showing me different
you know..
I believe in god
not men
thats a huge difference
21:02Deceived Daughter
THAT IS WHY HE IS CHASTENING/CHASING YOU RIGHT NOW!!!
21:02Me
i dont believe in timothy or someone else in this world.
21:02Deceived Daughter
HE DOESN'T WANT YOU TO BELIEVE IN ANYONE BUT HIM
21:03Me
i only trust god alone
21:03Deceived Daughter
YET, YOU ARE INBALANCED IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES. NOT WILLING TO WAIT?
21:03Me
everything else has to be proofed by god himself
21:03Deceived Daughter
WHEN YOU AND I QUESTIONED TOGETHER REGARDING THESE VERY THINGS, WE PRAYED THAT GOD WOULD SHOW US.
21:03Me
how long are u reading these letters?
21:04Deceived Daughter
DID YOU WAIT LONG ENOUGH???
21:04Me
the strange thing is, god revealed that immedeately after this conversation.
21:04Deceived Daughter
I READ SOME JUST THE OTHER DAY, AND IT WAS ADMONISHING IN LOVE.
IT WAS CORRECTING IN LOVE.
21:04Me
when did u start?
21:05Deceived Daughter
I STARTED READING GODS WORD WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG, PRACTICALLY A TODDLER.
21:05Me
no im talking bout the letters
21:05Deceived Daughter
HE PUT THAT VERY DESIRE IN MY HEART.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD, AS WELL.
21:05Me
come on..
thats not a fair discussion
21:06Deceived Daughter
DO YOU THINK THAT ALL OF THE GIFTS ENDED WAY BACK WHEN???
GET REAL!!! GET A GRIP ON REALITY!!!
YOU ARE MORE DELUDED AND DECEIVED THAN YOU KNOW!!!
21:07Me
If god tells ME so, i will believe you.
At the very moment my god told me different.
cuz he did not reveal these things to me for nothing
21:07Deceived Daughter
READ IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT IN THE LAST DAYS MY MEN SERVANTS AND MAID SERVANTS SHALL DREAM DREAMS AND HAVE VISIONS AND PROPHECY!!!
21:07Me
yes
21:07Deceived Daughter
WHO IS YOUR GOD??? YOUR SELF???
21:07Me
no, he is called I AM
21:08Deceived Daughter
JEZEBAAL??? AHAB???
THESE GODS CALLED THEM SELF THE I AM TOO
SO DOES OBAMA
SO DOES HILARY
21:08Me
I AM not the God but the God is called I AM
21:08Deceived Daughter
SO DOES ANYONE THAT EXALTS THEIR SELF ABOVE THE MOST HIGH
THERE IS A BALANCE TO THAT AS WELL
DO YOU KNOW THE BALANCE???
21:09Me
tell me
read about him: [en.wikipedia.org]
21:09Deceived Daughter
OR ARE YOU BEING WEIGHED IN THE BALANCES AND FOUND WANTING??? LIKE NEBECHUDNEZZARS SON, BELTESHAZZAR.
I AM NOT SURE THAT IS HOW YOU SPELL THOSE NAMES, BUT IF YOU KNOW THE WORD, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
READ ABOUT THESE VERY PEOPLE IN THE WORD, TODAY, IF POSSIBLE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO CRAWL AROUND ON THE GRASS, FEEDING ON IT LIKE AN ANIMAL FOR SEVEN YEARS, DO YOU???
21:11Me
But stop judging me, cuz thats really hurtin the heart of god.
21:11Deceived Daughter
READ THE/HIS STORY.
THERE IS A TIME FOR EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN/SON!!!
21:12Me
yep. this is the time of great deception.
21:12Deceived Daughter
AREN'T YOU WRONG FULLY JUDGING TIMOTHY, TRENT, YOUR SELF AND ME???
21:12Me
nope. i am just judging spirits not men
i do believe that you have a heart for jesus.
21:13Deceived Daughter
JUDGE NOT, LEST YOU BE JUDGED AND WITH THE SAME AMOUNT YOU JUDGE, YOU SHALL BE JUDGED.
IF YOU REALLY KNOW THE WORD LIKE YOU SAY YOU DO,
21:13Me
did i say that?
21:13Deceived Daughter
THEN YOU WILL TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AT LEAST THAT MUCH!!!
21:13Me
i just said that god is workin within me
21:13Deceived Daughter
PRIDE COMETH BEFORE A GREAT FALL!!!
21:14Me
i do not have much biblical knowledge, but god is present in my life and leads me in love and truth.
i am convinced that he told me to reject these letters.
21:15Deceived Daughter
HUMPTY DUMPTY SAT ON THE WALL; HUMPTY DUMPTY HAD A GREAT FALL; ALL THE KINGS HORSES AND ALL THE KINGS MEN, COULDN'T PUT BROKEN HUMPTY DUMPTY BACK TOGETHER AGAIN, BECAUSE HE WAS TO PROUD TO ADMIT THAT HE WAS WRONG BY WAIVERING BACK AND FORTH ON THE BRICK WALL TO BEGIN WITH. HE WAS AN EGG HEAD!!!
21:15Me
This is really not nice
cuz im just searchin truth
21:15Deceived Daughter
I AM DONE WITH YOU FOR NOW.
COME BACK WHEN YOU CAN SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES.
I AM NOT GOING TO SUGAR COAT ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY!!!
21:16Me
So you can not forgive me not believing in the letters?
I thought u can do so
21:16Deceived Daughter
I AM NOT CALLED TO DO THAT!!!
I FORGIVE ALL WHO THE LORD GOD CALLS ME TO FORGIVE OR LOOSE
AND I BIND ALL THOSE WHO THE LORD GOD TELLS ME TO BIND, UNTIL THEY CAN TRULY UNDERSTAND.
21:17Me
The lord tells you to even forgive your enemies... but i dont know what these letters say about that
but the holy scriptures say so
21:17Deceived Daughter
EVIDENTLY, YOU DID NOT WATCH THOSE VIDEOS ON JEZEBAAL AND REALLY SEE THEM.
21:17Me
i can forgive you, for believeing in the letters
21:18Deceived Daughter
THE PROPHETS OF OLD WERE STONED, AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT!!!
THEY DIDN'T SUGAR COAT ANYTHING UNLESS GOD TOLD THEM TO.
21:18Me
As i said, i dont wanna stone you.
21:18Deceived Daughter
SUGAR IS DEFINITELY FOR BABIES.
21:19Me
I can forgive you for havin a different view on the letters
21:19Deceived Daughter
A SPOONFUL OF SUGAR HELPS THE MEDICINE GO DOWN!!!
YOU AREN'T RECEIVING THE MEDICINE
YOUR BODY IS REJECTING IT
I WOULD THAT YOU WERE NEITHER HOT NOR COLD, SO THEREFORE REPENT, OR I SHALL SPEW YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH,BODY!!!
21:20Me
hm, according to my god i have already been forgiven.
21:20Deceived Daughter
AS YOUR BODY IS REJECTING CHRIST BECAUSE OF YOUR LUKEWARMNESS
21:20Me
its really strange
why does god tell me that i have been forgiven for my sins?
am i not??
i hope so!
21:21Deceived Daughter
THE LIE THAT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED IS A GODLESS, BLASPHEMOUS PUKE, RIGHT FROM THE PIT!!!
WAKE UP!!! BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!!!
21:21Me
Now i got the spirit dwellin in you.
Cuz the letters support "once saved, always saved"
there is a letter for this
21:21Deceived Daughter
YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN ME, ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN!!!
21:22Me
i dont accuse you
21:22Deceived Daughter
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME!!!
21:22Me
i accuse the spirit talking to timothy
cuz he is a deamon
I will pray 4 you sister!
21:22Deceived Daughter
IF I CAST OUT DEMONS WITH DEMONS, A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNNOT STAND!!!
YOU NEED TO PRAY FOR YOUR SELF!!! YOUR PLANK IN YOUR EYE JUST HIT ME IN THE FACE!!!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???
DO YOU REALLY KNOW THE WORD THAT BECAME FLESH AND DWELT AMONG US???
21:24Me
You know, jesus loves me
thats a fact
and i dont need any other love
than his
21:25Deceived Daughter
IF YOU KNOW THAT, THEN YOU ALSO KNOW THAT HE LOVES ME, AND TRENT AND TIMOTHY AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WILL LET!!!
21:25Me
yes
thats also a fact
i never said anything else
he loves you guys
21:25Deceived Daughter
WE ALL NEED EACHOTHER IN CHRIST. A MAN CANNOT STAND ALONE AS AN ISLAND, APART FROM THE BODY!!!
21:26Me
u are right
definetely
21:26Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE SETTING YOUR SELF UP FOR FAILURE
SELF IS THE KEY WORD HERE
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???
21:26Me
I am a member of the body of christ.
so i know
21:27Deceived Daughter
IF YOU WANT TO STAND AS AN ISLAND ALONE, CHRIST CAN SPEW YOU OUT IF YOU WANT HIM TO!!!
BE NOT DOUBLE MINDED
21:27Me
he wont do that
21:27Deceived Daughter
FOR YOU SURELY WILL NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM GOD
21:27Me
cuz im his child
21:27Deceived Daughter
READ JAMES
READ JAMES
21:28Me
i know the scpriture of james
but why do you have to hate me for not believing in the letters?
21:28Deceived Daughter
READ JAMES AND THE OTHER STUFF THAT WE TALKED OR REASONED TOGETHER ABOUT, AND I SHALL PRAY
AND THEN GET BACK TO ME
I LOVE YOU
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???
21:28Me
u say so, but i dont feel any love.
21:28Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE MY BROTHER
I WANT IT TO STAY THAT WAY
WHEN YOU AND YOUR SIBLINGS OR FAMILY WERE DIVIDED OVER SOMETHING
DID YOU STILL LOVE THEM???
21:29Me
yep
21:29Deceived Daughter
OR DID YOU HATE THEM???
21:30Me
so does god love me, even as a damn sinner.
21:30Deceived Daughter
IF YOU KNOW ME, YOU KNOW THAT I AM NOT TALKING JUST TO HEAR MYSELF TALK
I CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF THE FAMILY
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
21:30Me
yes of course.. everybody of the body should do so
not only you
21:30Deceived Daughter
OK
LETS LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE FOR NOW
21:31Me
and i think a true brother or sisters cares
so do i care for you
cuz it does not matter to me if you do believe in the letters or not
if you are a child of god, you are my sister.
21:31Deceived Daughter
THEN YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU ENOUGH TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, EVEN WHEN IT HURTS AND I EXPECT AND EVEN DEMAND IT FROM YOU
I EXPECT NOTHING LESS THAN THE UNADULTERATED TRUTH
I AM TIRED OF BEING LIED TO OR DELUDED OR DECEIVED!!!
CAN YOU LOVE ME ENOUGH TO ACCEPT THAT???
21:32Me
yes!
21:32Deceived Daughter
ALRIGHTY THEN
21:33Me
but i unfortunately believe, that this is just happening to you.
the letters are from the devil.
21:33Deceived Daughter
WE'LL TALK SOON AFTER A LITTLE SOUL SEARCHING
AND PRAYING AND INTERCEDING
21:33Me
thats what i am doing day for day
EVERYDAY
21:33Deceived Daughter
FOR OURSELVES AND FOR EACHOTHER
21:33Me
u know?
21:33Deceived Daughter
YES, I DO
THAT IS WHY YOU AND I ARE TALKING RIGHT NOW
21:34Me
but do not fear, god will get this things right.
u ARE a child of god
21:34Deceived Daughter
AND WE SHALL TALK AGAIN AND MANY TIMES AFTER THAT, GOD WILLING
21:34Me
so why fear?
21:34Deceived Daughter
I FEAR NOTHING
21:34Me
you fear the letters being a lie
21:34Deceived Daughter
I HAVE A REVERENTIAL AWESTRUCK WONDER OF MY CREATOR
BUT I FEAR NOTHING FOR I NO LONGER LIVE UNDER CONDEMNATION WHMe IS FROM SATAN
READ REVELATIONS
SEE HOW ALL OF US ARE FORE WARNED OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
WAS IT SUGAR COATED???
EVEN THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS. WAS IS SUGAR COATED???
21:36Me
nope
21:36Deceived Daughter
FEED ON HIS WORD
WE SHALL TALK LATER
21:36Me
yep, but i wont feed on the letters anymore
21:36Deceived Daughter
MY DAUGHTER NEEDS ME NOW
21:36Me
cuz they bring fear and confusion
21:37Deceived Daughter
IF THAT IS WHAT THEY BRING, DON'T FEED ON THEM
21:37Me
and sparation
21:37Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE NOT TO A POINT TO WATCH RATED R MOVIES/LETTERS YET
21:37Me
definetly not
21:37Deceived Daughter
YOU ARE STILL UNDER AGE/MINOR
21:37Me
cuz im a CHILD of god
21:37Deceived Daughter
I HAVE TO GO
21:37Me
these dont watch such things ;);)
k
much love & dont worry so much
21:38Deceived Daughter
PUT THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ON A SHELF
AND WE SHALL TALK OF THEM LATER
I LOVE YOU BRO, GOD SPEED.
21:38Me
i believe you accepted these letters too quickly
who is god speed?
21:38Deceived Daughter
I ACCEPTED THE VERY WORD OF THE LIVING GOD, NOTHING ELSE AND NOTHING MORE
PUT GOD SPEED UP ON A SHELF
I HAVE TO GO NOW
WE SHALL TALK MORE LATER, GOD WILLING
21:39Me
Speed is your god.
thats the problem
21:40Deceived Daughter
GOD SPEED MEANS LET HIS KINGDOM COME AND HIS WILL BE DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER ACCORDING TO HIS SPEED.
21:40Me
k..
much love to u and ur family
21:40Deceived Daughter
IN HIS TIMELESS REALM]
21:40Me
i seen the pics of ur precious ones
some hugs for em'
talk 2 ya later
21:41Deceived Daughter
MUCH LOVE TO YOU AND YOURS, AS WELL, FOR YOU ARE MINE AND MINE IS YOURS FOR WE ARE TRULY ONE IN CHRIST
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
FreeYoMind
()
Date: August 22, 2010 04:36AM
@frogla i mentioned that trent wants to separate, i hope you do not mind. I really appologize if that was against your will, but i felt pressed to mention that. Cuz the truth has to be spoken.
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
think4myself
()
Date: August 22, 2010 05:04AM
Quote
FreeYoMind
btw. its also strange that timothy calls himself "Timothy Lfgahc" on the net... whats that!? (facebook, myspace and so on)
Lfgahc stands for Letters from God and His Christ. Took a while but my son figured it out.
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
Sparky
()
Date: August 22, 2010 11:26AM
FreeYoMind, thanks so much for your well-documented e-response with the confused and hurting Sister. Once more, I will post what Jesus himself said about people claiming to be speaking for him:
Book of Matthew
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. .
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not
Clearly then, Jesus is NOT in the "Letters" from "god" to Speed (aka: Timothy).
The above quote attributed to Jesus would preclude someone coming forward 2000 years later and reinterpreting the entire Bible in a way that suits the arrogant "New Apostle".
Is Timothy (Speed) somehow immune from this? Isn't this what Speed is doing?
I will delve into the "Letters From Jesus" by "god"(his words) Timothy later.
Clearly, from all the Bible quotations, Speed (aka: Timothy) is NOT "channeling" Jesus and the Christian/Jewish God, YHWH. I cannot imagine the damage that Speed (aka"Timothy") is doing to many people we may never hear about. Someone who cares so little for real "seekers of the Truth", like apparently Speed ("Timothy") does is a villian in my book.
Also, the fact that followers of "god Speed" ignore the fact that when the Bible DEMANDS "You may have no other gods besides me" this makes THEM (the followers of "god Speed") guilty and unforgiveable in the eyes of god.
This is the true meaning of "the sin against the Holy Spirit" that Jesus says was the only unforgiveable sin.
Book of Matthew
24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. .
24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not
Clearly then, Jesus is NOT in the "Letters" from "god" to Speed (aka: Timothy).
The above quote attributed to Jesus would preclude someone coming forward 2000 years later and reinterpreting the entire Bible in a way that suits the arrogant "New Apostle".
Is Timothy (Speed) somehow immune from this? Isn't this what Speed is doing?
I will delve into the "Letters From Jesus" by "god"(his words) Timothy later.
Clearly, from all the Bible quotations, Speed (aka: Timothy) is NOT "channeling" Jesus and the Christian/Jewish God, YHWH. I cannot imagine the damage that Speed (aka"Timothy") is doing to many people we may never hear about. Someone who cares so little for real "seekers of the Truth", like apparently Speed ("Timothy") does is a villian in my book.
Also, the fact that followers of "god Speed" ignore the fact that when the Bible DEMANDS "You may have no other gods besides me" this makes THEM (the followers of "god Speed") guilty and unforgiveable in the eyes of god.
This is the true meaning of "the sin against the Holy Spirit" that Jesus says was the only unforgiveable sin.
Re: Trumpet Call of God
Posted by:
Sparky
()
Date: August 22, 2010 11:31AM
Oh, and as point of interest for everyone on this thread, while YHWH (whose name may never be said aloud) claimed to call himself a name we could call like I AM, that is in fact an error in translation.
The actual name YHWH suggested had much MORE power.
While "I AM" is in the here and now, the actual Hebrew translates to "I WILL BE AS I WILL BE" this denoting ETERNITY...not just the here and now. More powerful and impressive the correct translations, no?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/22/2010 11:35AM by Sparky.
The actual name YHWH suggested had much MORE power.
While "I AM" is in the here and now, the actual Hebrew translates to "I WILL BE AS I WILL BE" this denoting ETERNITY...not just the here and now. More powerful and impressive the correct translations, no?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/22/2010 11:35AM by Sparky.
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