on a tangent continued...
If I had to select just one living word message that touched my heart in the years following John's death, it would be this one:
'God is Pissed Off
And It's Your Fault'

I still have the cassette in my restricted file cabinet, and am willing to lend it out....assuming you first sign your name promising to return it in five days.

Actually, I think I'm supposed to come to your house (Reference Library). And listin to it while you sit and watch me listen to it. To make sure I do not take notes or turn a 2nd recording device on.

How could I forgotten this protocol? Inexcusable. MY BAD!

Good job "page turners." What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

lily rose Wrote:
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> jhorning Wrote:
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> >> Luke 11 "The eye is the lamp of your body;
> when
> > your eye is clear, your whole body also is full
> of
> > light; but when it is bad, your body also is
> full
> > of darkness. "Then watch out that the light in
> you is not
> > darkness."If therefore your whole body is full
> of light, with no dark part in
> > it, it will be wholly illumined, as when the
> lamp illumines you with its rays."
>
>
> Jhorning that's a difficult passage with regard to
> the meaning of the metaphors. Is this passage
> about how to make sure the light that you think
> you have is not really darkness? There is much
> that passes as light...the scriptures refer to
> spiritual deceivers as angels of light. Do you
> think Jesus (the light of the world) is saying
> that if your eyes (spiritual understanding) see me
> for who I really am and are focused on me then you
> will not be open to darkness? I guess a bad eye
> could mean spiritual blindness. Your insight will
> be appreciated.

lily rose: I don't have insight.

John 1:8 "He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light."(Refering to John the Baptist)

John 8:12 "When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

John 16:14 …13"But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14"He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you. 15"All things that the Father has are Mine; therefore I said that He takes of Mine and will disclose it to you.….

1John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin."

Thanks jhorning. During a family discussion of the Luke text 11:33-36 we came up with the following on the light and eye imagery:

Through out the Gospel of Luke it seems that people who respond to Jesus are those who can identify themselves as sinners. Being a sinner presumes that we will make errors and confuse darkness with light. Jesus says "Watch" a call to pay on going attention to one's eye especially at those times when we might confuse darkness with light. Example there could be something wrong in the way one who identifies as a sinner interprets scripture so reflect and examine and be willing to accept scrutiny.

After the Luke text 11:33-36 Jesus denounces the Pharisees and Lawyers who fail to respond to him or "see" him so possibly in the text Jesus was telling the Pharisees (thinking themselves full of light) that the light in them was darkness. Previously the Pharisees tried to test Jesus and demanded to "see" a sign which says something about their own capacity to "see" God's truth.

The eye is a lamp (not that it emits light) as through it the body receives light outside of the body (God's truth.) The good eyes admit light; the bad eyes do not.

A note to you current LW members: we're still alive and talking here. Maybe you need to pray harder.

I guess I should explain that a bit. Sounds kind of nasty. Let's just say, I've encountered some LW folks recently who would prefer that I simply dropped dead. Sorry to disappoint them. : )

paleface Wrote:
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> I guess I should explain that a bit. Sounds kind
> of nasty. Let's just say, I've encountered some
> LW folks recently who would prefer that I simply
> dropped dead. Sorry to disappoint them. : )


If history is any indication, the death wishes should result in you living a long life.

I remember watching an ad on the Simpsons for "Death Wish 9" which showed an aging and bedridden Charles Bronson saying, "I wish I was dead."

Such a great parody on the futility of vengeance.