Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens
Date: May 22, 2023 09:06PM
A few posts from August 2018:
Posted by: reveal
Date: August 20, 2018 09:21AM
Some interesting food for thought...Knowing that TLWF monitors this site and reports its findings back to Kevin and Gary, isn't it telling that rather than using the information they find here to help fix what is broken and wrong about the church, they instead threaten and persecute those who speak out? If they spent even a fraction of the effort they put into the persecution of those who are exposing what is wrong, into using the information to rectify the deep problems in the organization, perhaps there would be hope for change. The mere fact that they use what they see posted on here to vilify former members is proof of how Godless the organization is.
Posted by: changedagain
Date: August 22, 2018 11:05AM
I hope I am not the only one who answered the latest confidential TLWF survey this way. Boy, I'll be in real trouble!
Name something you have received by serving Christ in the Flesh
Posted by: cultfree
Date: August 22, 2018 01:46PM
Hey changedagain. Is there a real anonymous survey going around? Is it being circulated by TLWF, or someone else?
Posted by: changedagain
Date: August 22, 2018 02:34PM
No, there is not cultfree--at least to my knowledge. But my answer is accurate, if that survey existed. BTW, I don't think anything was ever confidential/anonymous in that organization. Most of the time, from what I surmised, you were asked questions mainly to probe whether you were loyal or not to leadership. I don't think anything else mattered.
Any information you provided could and would be used against you.
p.s. obedience, obedience, obedience
Posted by: TheycalledmeJonah
Date: August 23, 2018 03:46AM
I decided to listen to a recent TLWF message the other day so I could hear the message completely objectively.
The main point of the message was this:
If you are obedient to God and his will for you, you will not die. If you do not obey God and his will for you, you will die.
Its really nice to hear how crazy that sounds and be able to separate myself from it. When I was in the church I kinda figured that I would kick the bucket even if I tried my hardest to do the will of God. I don't know whether it was because people who were "doing the will of God" were continuing to die, or if it was because I honestly knew I couldn't keep up with all the words adding onto God's will for me.... it was kind of becoming a long list... but I always believed that after a long life of trying to do God's will I would eventually die. There were words that Gary brought that sometimes made me think differently though. He would talk about the Kingdom coming to Earth and it kind of felt like paradise would eventually come down to earth and save us all from our inevitable deaths. But whatever.
So after listening to the message, and hearing the congregants cheer and agree when the speaker spoke of eternal life, I've found another piece of control the leadership have over the congregants.
If you obey the word of God (aka, what your pastor tells you) than you will live forever! Hurray! But... if you don't listen, then boy oh boy... you've got some consequences waiting for you. Heck, penalty of death isn't good enough for the leadership, no! If you don't do what God (pastors) say, then the pastors will help deal out Gods judgement.