I found it. It was called Con-Text:::: Here is some of the words I found in the script.

Ron Carver: Must be frustrating. A mind that even you can't unlock. (edit) (Pausing from giving background on the murder victim to watch Goren poking the corpse's eyeball.)
Alex Eames: Having fun?
Robert Goren: No, go on. I'm listening. (edit)

Ron Carver: Is it a cult? Mind control?
Robert Goren: Yes.
Alex Eames: No.

Ron Carver: How reassuring.
Robert Goren: They use the same psychological coercion as cults.
Alex Eames: So did the guy who sold me my car. No one forced those people to stay last night. (edit)

Can you believe this BS???? Denver PSI is "out of integrity." That is so sadddddddddddddddd..... hahahaha. PSI should go out of business, bu I know it will probably start up under another name. I found this in one of the yahoo groups. IT seems the light dawned for someone doesn't? Maybe for COUCH Darren.


From: darrencouch@...
Date: Sat May 6, 2006 2:30 am
Subject: RE: Player and Coaching positions available for PLD! drclight
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Friends,

I believe the following to be true or I wouldn’t have written it.



I think it would be wonderful to coach PLD!

However – and that’s a $2 but – the PLD that I know is no longer being played in the city of Denver. MLS is no longer MLS it is now WLS with testes, and the question that I have is WHY?

I know that ideas for bettering Denver-PSI were recently solicited from past graduates, and that some who have real and daring ideas were excluded from this round-table. That’s exactly what I have heard from other leaders of business and industry who would love to come back and play, BUT don’t feel welcome because they are dismissed for being ‘anti-PSI’. These people feel the city is out of . Ask us. You know who we are.



And while I am at it, what is this crap I have heard about having to have a paid Principia seat in order to staff Leadership? Is this true?!? Is not 10 or 11 days of my life enough of a commitment to myself or the work? Or what about being required to have a defined (within PSI, of course) next step while staffing the basic? What’s wrong with someone of good heart staffing because they simply want to refresh their use of the tools and give back – and believe me, when you staff with some of these facilitators, you are GIVING baby. I know of no better reason to staff than to for someone to become a better person, father, mother, sibling or friend of our community. PSI has so many capricious and arbitrary rules that make no sense that I am sure you could add more examples.

And here’s what I love even more: facilitators and employees within PSI have admitted to me that these policies are f_ _ _ed up and have no backbone about drawing a line to CHANGE it and make it right. That’s also out of integrity. And they know who they are.



And the reason these employees don’t do anything is that they are pressured by ‘the good old girls club’ who pass off these edicts as being for the betterment of the students. Know this: These ladies would only make a rule or a move when they believe it is their own best financial interests - nothing else. The Clan of Clear Lake are STILL in need of taking the basic themselves. Let me clarify, IN NEED OF TAKING THE BASIC AND APPLYING IT.



I send this to you because Denver was the best PSI city in the company at one time. You and I were a part of something very special because we felt we were contributing to the world – if only our little corner of it. So if you wish to contribute and change this city, DRAW YOUR LINE and STICK TO IT. If you want to play, then play BIG. If you choose to stay away, then let PSI know why you are – Wouldn’t you want to know why your company is wallowing?

These are only part of the reasons I have stayed away: Lack of integrity and honor among the employees and a feeling of condescending management through fear and scarcity.



Denver will continue to dwindle in terms of class size, support and real movement until we take a stance for what is right. And if you don’t know what that is, go sit in on the basic with fresh eyes and ears.



I feel cleansed for baring some of them and hope that good comes of this.

This may seem to you to be a bit harsh and I say that tough love is better than no love.

If you believe this, do what’s right within your heart to change this city and this company.



Peace, Love and Light,

Darren Couch

HI everyone. I received two email from another PSI 7 Group, which just graduated a short time ago. It appears one had his wife leave him and the other, a woman, feels lost with the decisions she is making and is being couched by “supportive partner, who's been through the Basic, incidentally.” I thought I send these into the board to update and to show apparently PSI 7 how has a new ‘game’ to play; blind mans bluff in the woods.” I really feel bad for these people and wish them the best

From Jess, “I have actually started practicing a similar activity associated with breathing and being thankful. In the book I mentioned there are some exercises that do exactly what you are doing, though this guy with a PhD could not say it quite so beautifully or eloquently. When I listen to people that have had similar experiences to my own, it inspires me and it horrifies me at the same time. Human
beings have such great capacity for love and for hate, for giving and taking, for serving others and serving themselves above all others. Well... lets pray PSI completes its mission even if it is one mind at a time.

During one of our quiet exercises at the ranch with eyes closed, our "angel facilitator" came up behind me and whispered in my ear that I was a beautiful man and that I needed to stop beating myself up. I realized how often I assumed blame or fault for my lot in life and right or wrong – I dwelt on that and let it consume me. Or worse yet, how I have listened to others that lay blame on me and I accept their judgment without hesitation. Suddenly I was remembering others in my life telling me the same thing. On my 5 hour flight back to Hawaii, I wrote a poem that tries to define this life-changing experience I had at PSI. Some degree of self-consciousness prevented me from sharing it before. For Terry Ritter: don't know if this meets the demands of my promised poem for PSI VII... now I'm not certain a single poem could do it.

I did write this poem with my wife in mind and I wrote it before I knew a lot of the truth, but please understand that though now things have changed, I am still honored to know her because I know there is a good person inside and I pray that she will move the mountains blocking her way to more fulfilling and lasting relationships. Though lives are heading in different directions, she did help me discover many glorious things about me.”


From Carolyn; “Hi Everyone,
Some of you will have seen my e-mail of a week or so ago. I was feeling a bit down in the dumps and had been struggling with my re-entry. I want to thank everyone who wrote and phoned me to offer support and tell me what your experience has been like. It really helped a lot. I'm feeling much better now. I did a lot of introspection and had the benefit of a few sounding boards from Team 433 to help me work it through. There was a lot going on, as there usually is. I'd been struggling for a long time to find my purpose in life and I think my expectations were that I would come home from the Ranch with a game plan in mind, knowing exactly what I was meant to do and how I should go about getting it done. Instead I came home feeling a bit lost. Fortunately, I have a very supportive partner, who's been through the Basic, incidentally. We sat down and really talked about what I'd been feeling and what I wanted and I feel much more optimistic about my future and my dreams feel much more within my reach. I'm not sure how it's all going to come together, but if I get my intentions clear, I trust that it'll all work out eventually.

In the meantime - I'm taking a lesson from the blind walk through the woods. Again, there was a lot I got out of that little exercise, but the one that really stuck was that I was more focused on what was going to happen when I got 'there', rather than on the journey itself. So, I've decided to learn from that and really enjoy my summer, living in the moment.

With that in mind, I started my horseback riding lessons this past Saturday and I'm hooked!! I've found my sport of choice. Now I just need to find the money to pay for it. Ha! Thanks again to everyone for being there for me during a frustrating time.

BTW, how about "Stop Talking, Stop Talking, Stop Talking" for our granite boardwalk? Just kidding....”

Ok, I’ve read all the post related to PSI Seminars and PSI7 and I couldn’t believe it. At least I couldn’t believe it until my wife returned from the ‘ranch’ in California with a new attitude. She left within three weeks of being back and the only excuse was ‘this is what’s right for me.” I see this is a common statement with these zealots. She also said she is leaving to find that “number 10 relationship” and refused to discuss anything about even remotely saving the marriage. Now I will say our marriage had it problems, which every marriage does, but it certainly wasn’t coming to an end. It seems to me she was looking for something or is maybe dealing with a midlife crisis, but this pushed her over the edge or what some of you describe as “the ledge?” And when I bring up PSI and the issues I’ve seen, like the previous posts on this site she shuts down and I get the 1000 yard stare. The person who left for this seminar (and I use that term loosely) is not the same one that returned. I even saw her journal, the one she was required to keep while at the ranch. She wrote that during “the sharing” she had 35 men stare into her eyes and tell her that they wanted to have an intimate relationship with her and she described what a boost to her ego this had been. When I told her about finding the journal she accused me of snooping though her things and immediately locked up the journal and a large leather bound book with the PSI seal on the cover. When I asked her why she was locking it up she told me that she was afraid I would destroy them. Now that I think about it; I should have if I had known it was going to be like this. Her friends have told me, because I see them often, there is something wrong with her, that she acting strangely and a few have told me that she is calling and trying to get them enrolled in this because she is playing something called PLD? Even her mother wonders what the hell is going on; telling me this isn’t her daughter. And I ask you what mother-in-law do you know that talks openly with her son-in-law about her daughter, and what this has done to her. What this has done to our family. She tried to recruit me and other members of the family and when we turned her down she broke contact with them and me. As I read in another post; my wife is a smart, intelligent woman, probably one of the smartest woman I know, but I still can’t believe she was gullible enough to change her thought processes for this (please excuse me) bullshit. My question is; is this normal? Is there a chance she’ll “snap out if it.” Or am I staring at a pipe dream?

I was checking on some of the PSI groups in Yahoo and found someone had entered a new group called PSI victims. I thought I pass this on to those of you interested in PSI. I see that the number of posts here have increased, I wonder if something is up with PSI? If anyone has an inside scoop pleased post it. I would love to see the Piss and Shit Institute go out of business. The yahoo group is called PSI Victims. You can find it though their search engine. Check it out.

I found this posted on a yahoo group, another victim of PSI. Should I really use the word victim?

"This is for my Wife, the wife who turned into a PSI cult member.
I wonder if I will ever have "closure" with this.

"People come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime.
When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that
person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to
meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through
a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you
physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend
and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be.
Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient
time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship
to an end. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes
they act up and force you to take a stand. What we must realize is
that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled, their work is
done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now it is time to
movePeople come into your life for a reason, a season or a lifetime.
When you know which one it is, you will know what to do for that
person. When someone is in your life for a REASON, it is usually to
meet a need you have expressed. They have come to assist you through
a difficulty, to provide you with guidance and support, to aid you
physically, emotionally or spiritually. They may seem like a godsend
and they are. They are there for the reason you need them to be.
Then, without any wrongdoing on your part or at an inconvenient
time, this person will say or do something to bring the relationship
to an end. Sometimes they die. Sometimes they walk away. Sometimes
they act up and force you to take a stand. Sometimes they join a
LARGE GROUP AWARENESS TRAINING program (PSI SEMININARS). What we
must realize is that our need has been met, our desire fulfilled,
their work is done. The prayer you sent up has been answered and now
it is time to move on.

Some people come into your life for a SEASON, because your turn has
come to share, grow or learn. They bring you an experience of peace
or make you laugh. They may teach you something you have never done.
They usually give you an unbelievable amount of joy. Believe it, it
is real. However, only for a season!

LIFETIME relationships teach you lifetime lessons, things you must
build upon in order to have a solid emotional foundation. Your job
is to accept the lesson, love the person and put what you have
learned to use in all other relationships and areas of your life. It
is said that love is blind and friendship is clairvoyant, But PSI
is nothing more than BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are you a victim of PSI Seminars?
PSI Seminars is:
*a brainwashing seminar
*a pyramid scheme (legal because the labor is volunteered)
*group pressure/peer pressure
*skilled at harassment
*a 'targeted marketing corporation' (believe it, those are their own
words!)
*going to target YOU
*a neighborhood nightmare
*a social epidemic
*yes it IS a cult for the enthusiastic
*empty rhetoric
*a salesman that YOU pay to solicit YOU
*secretly writing down any information you share during the seminar
in order to solicit you in the future
*full of real estate agents, car salesmen, loan officers, travel
agents and more who are WATCHING YOU (and taking notes)- don't worry
they'll introduce themselves as new friends at a later date once
they know what your interests are. They are the ones who will help
you purchase, oops I mean realize your true potential
*not your friend
*bastardized philosophy and social science
*scripted
*owned by the former board members of EST
*a more 'polished' and up to date version of EST
*required to have you sign a consent release form because of all
those messy suicide lawsuits back in the seventies and eighties
during the EST version
*not therapy
*sneaky
*insidious
*a snake oil salesman with a friendly face
*full of ------ (fill in the blank) rhetorical logic riddled word
games that give you that warm 'I got it!' feeling
*a really bad idea
*a family and friend 'divider' not 'uniter'
*encouraging spouses NOT to tell their spouses what happened during
the seminar
*a really really expensive weekend, or more
*psychologically dangerous
*full of feel good fluff
*full of feel bad stuff
*wants you, your family, your friends, and your friends friends to
sign up
*wants YOU to recruit them, free of charge- because intra personal
relationships are the marketing mechanism of the future, oops, I
mean TODAY
*a class rate con job
*not an accredited educational organization
*affects more people then you would ever guess"

As someone who has done PSI Basic, PSI7 and has no current interest in doing any of the others, I find the rage directed at PSI fascinating.


I too, didn't really want to go, but people I loved and trusted were offering to pay for me to go because they loved me. So, I had to check it out and prove one of us wrong.

PSI's refund policy allows you to get back your money, if, after doing the seminar, you feel you got nothing out of it.

I was resistant, I tried to get nothing out of it and get my money back, but alas, I learned a great deal and it was worth every penny.

PSI is a business...and therefore they push you to take the seminar with "hard sell" tactics...the one aspect of the seminars that I found frustrating were their salesman tactics. But mainly because I have a hard time saying "no." I learned to when they asked me to sign up for the next seminar. It was fun saying "no."

That said, the activities themselves served me well in getting to a brighter perspective in my life. But it is work. You aren't just better all of a sudden, you are just more aware of what you bring to the world.

The "facilitators" are not gurus. They are people trying to live life just as we are. And you get out of it what you put in and what you observe about the world. They act as mirrors for you so that you can see what you "do" in life.


I learned a lot about myself at PSI7 as well. And the reason we don't tell you what goes on there is so that should you choose to go, you want have anything ruined for you.

Because in order to get anything out of them, you have to go through it and find out whjat it means for you personally. Nobody HAS to do anything they don't want to do. It is PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TRAINING. Do not blame others for your lot in life. You have too much power for that.

And as one facilitator says.."if an excercise doesn't fit, don't wear it."

[b:52600ac166]Feel free to ask any question about it you like and I will clearly answer them for you.[/b:52600ac166]

And Yes, there is stuff I won't tell because...for example...there is an excercise we did one night of the four day Basic seminar that was soooo valuable to me because it represents something larger, but if you know what that is before hand, you don't get the PURE experience of playing that game. But it was so illuminating. For me.

Have I kept my positive outlook 24/7? No. But I get back to feeling positive faster for having gone through the basic.

I recommend taking the four day basic...then, go live in the world and if you want more go get it...at your speed...if you can afford to...or don't.

Peace In, War Out

some very interesting reading here, I was wondering how it might apply to an outfit called AsiaWorks

just a friendly suggestion - the long posts are extremely difficult to read, please use some space between your paragraphs and make more paragraphs than run-ons

Asiaworks is a large group awareness training LGAT program.

See [perso.orange.fr]

It is listed on the above page as a spin-off of Lifespring.

Within the Ross Institute database there are sections about both Lifespring and Asiaworks.

See the following:

[www.culteducation.com]

[www.culteducation.com]

The following is a paper written by a clinical psychologist about an LGAT.

See [www.culteducation.com]

This paper points out some of the inherent problems with LGATs.

Ruffy,

You find the RAGE towards PSI fascinating? Try loosing a loved one to the teachings of PSI. It is all an illusion, crafted to separate you from your money and make you dependent. You go to a basic seminar and are brainwashed into believing they will provide you with the “tools” to “change” your life. They did change my life, they destroyed it. My wife, someone I trusted, destroyed that trust and turned into a lair. She removed $3000.00 from the bank, without telling me, to pay for these seminars. Tell me that is rational. She went to California for PSI7 and came back with a different attitude. She turned into an arrogant, self centered bitch; “I want it now.” was the theme for the next three weeks until she left. She immediately filed for divorce. This seems to be a common theme for PSI “Graduates.”

Now you explain to me how a smart, intelligent, rational woman comes back from “the ranch” with her PSI bible and her CD’s, other then an elimination of her rational ability, and a deconstruction of her mind? Tell me: is it rational for a person to pay $3600.00 dollars for a nine day “Leadership School” at the end of PSI7, unless they were under the influence of some sort of mind control?

She brought home pictures of climbing phone poles, climbing walls, walking thought the woods; blindfolded, standing on the edge of a cliff and staring into the eyes of the male members of the group by candlelight, and tell me that is not a cult. Remember your buddies were holding the ropes? This is used to build the team. Remember the barn dance, dressing in sexy clothes picked out by you “PSI Buddy” and making a fool of yourself? Remember wearing a bathing suit in situations designed to make you “uncomfortable?” Throwing the “BULLSHIT” on the wall? Remember that? Tell me this is rational!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And you can’t tell me, or anyone else, what you did during the basic. I for one don’t care. Keep it a secret.

Now my wife, now ex-wife, is isolated and alone. She has alienated her family and friends. She now suffers from problems like anxiety and depression. She can go from happy to sad in the turn of her head. Her long time friends told her they want no part of her now. I see people who worked with her and they asked what is going on with her? And you can’t see the RAGE towards the Piss and Shit Institute? Ops, sorry, I meant PSI. Come on. Have you grown up in a cave? Did you really get the tools to make your life better, or was it simply a matter of having the knowledge and power to make the decision yourself? “PSI SEMINARS ARE DECEPTIVE AND IN THE BUSINESS OF TURNING PARTICIPANTS INTO DEPLOYABLE AGENTS AND OF CONTROLLING THEM USING THEIR EMOTIONAL WEAKNESSES.” They use these agents to recruit more members to get MORE MONEY. In the meantime they are screwing with someone’s head. That someone could be your husband, wife, brother or sister. Do you want to feel responsible for destroying someone’s life because you needed to “ENROLL” someone?

“About being a cult, this proposition is being ridiculed right from the beginning during the seminars with the seminar leader shouting out loud "Some people say we are a cult!". People look around and start laughing and everyone thinks "Of course WE are not a cult. It's ridicule to think like that!” But of course this is VERY manipulative on the part of the forum leader. He tries to defuse the idea by exposing it in such a blatant way that everybody will say that this is not the truth and that PSI Seminars is not a cult. “

Try loosing your loved one and see how that feels. Watch the one you love destroy themselves with this BS and see if you like how you think or feel. Take the white light, workshops, cool aid, and barn dances, get on your broom stick and fly.

PSI DESTOYS LIFES…..