Psychosis after a Tony Robbins Seminar??
Date: August 18, 2004 05:42PM
Also, one point that seems to get continually lost in the shuffle, is that in fact yes, there are people who go to these LGATS that don't have their life wrecked by them. There are also people who go who don't get much of anything out of them. It just bounces right off them for some reason, or turns them off, or bores them, and they just walk away.
This is actually my point.
If everyone was like this, the Guru would not make very much money!!
These LGATS are set up to prospect, locate, sort, and then take advantage of VULNERABLE people. They are the ones who are suggestible, and can get caught up, and worked into a frenzy, and lose themselves, and even wreck their lives.
I am curious about the argument that gets trotted out by followers of a specific LGAT who say, "well, its been good to me".
Well, firstly, they could be still in denial about the persuasion process, and they don't know where its going to end up yet. It ain't over until its over.
Also, they are being totally selfish and self-centered, (which is to be expected) as all they care about is their "own experience".
The reality is that there is a significant group of people who DO get caught in the trap, and get taken for a very expensive ride.
The LGAT will NOT warn these people, as a high percentage of their income comes from folks who happen to be suggestible, and happen to have some money to burn.
IF there is any valid psychological info in the LGATs I have seen, to me this info is totally ruined by all of the garbage around it. These LGAT's are a terrible way to learn, in my opinion. And who wants to manufacture some "faux feelings" on the whim of a Guru? Not me.
The old statement that "hey, the seminar didn't harm me" is a totally pointless argument to me.
I have never said it harms EVERYONE.
I have always said there is a certain % of the audience who get caught up, and get bilked.
This is who I am talking about.
For instance, a Franchise deal was pitched to me years ago after an LGAT. I got all the papers, etc. I probably still have them filed away. I looked them over, and I KNEW it was not viable in about 10 minutes. I knew it would NEVER work.
But many other people got "suckered" into this Franchise deal, and many lost everything. I knew one of these guys, and he was just a simple, trusting guy, who knew NOTHING about NLP or Trance work. Whereas I am a hardass, who knows a lot about these things, so I could see right through the BS, even years ago.
My view on the Franchising "deal", LONG BEFORE it turned sour, was that is was simply just a VERY HIGH TICKET CUSTOMER for the LGAT, and not a real franchise. They were just a customer pumping in around $150,000+ to the LGAT company.
In this case I was right.
Is my point clear, that they seek out the folks who can get tricked, and have access to money, borrowed or otherwise?
They don't waste time on a guy like me.
Also, there are Sharks who LOVE these LGAT's, as they can LEARN how to do it. There are also folks who have just a mild response, or none.
Again, I am not talking about these people.
Telemarketing scammers go after senior citizens and other VULNERABLE people. They don't go after people who will tell them to "f*ck off" and hang up.
LGAT's also go after the vulnerable people, and then take them for whatever they have.
These are the people I am talking about, and they are only a certain % of all the people who go there, but they are the ones getting burned.
I am not exaggerating the extent of what is going on behind the scenes.
Its pretty ugly and dirty behind the Magic Curtain, and there are lots of rats and cockroaches in the kitchen, even though your meal might taste and look just fine. But there might be somewhat of a foul taste in your mouth you are wondering about...
And that hotdog might taste just fine to you, but not many people have an appetite for hot dogs once they see how they are made in the factory...