Hey Kim, that's great that you trusted your own inner thoughts and feelings and decided not to go. Good for you.
In my view, there is no way people should be going to these LGAT's until they know what they are all about.
This way, they can be aware of all of the tricks, and the Trance and Ericksonian Hypnosis, Embedded Commands, NLP, the way the room is set up, the Social Influence stuff, the food and sleep deprivation, the conditioning of your peaks states and values to the Guru, the sleaze-ball commissioned salespeople, and the dozens and dozens of other techniques and aspects of the LGAT.
This way, IF a person ever "chooses" to go to one of these seminars someday, (the seminars have been running for decades, "Scarcity" is a sales tactic), then they will know what is going on. They will leave their credit cards at home, and they will NOT SIGN any contracts there. They might sit near the back, and not get too overexcited. They will not "give in" to the Guru, even thought the Guru tells you that giving into him is what you have to do to get miraculous change now.
They might even make notes of what is going on in their own notebook, so when they leave before the end and get their money back[/color:72b423641f] and have to turn in their booklet, they can take their own notes home with them.
I wouldn't worry too much about missing out on the "content" either. Much of that content "overly-complex fluff" designed to put the victims into "programmed confusion", and overload their conscious mind, so they are ripe for unconscious influence.
LGAT's are not about "superlearning". They are about "super-indoctrination".
If you had gone to the LGAT seminar in question, you would have been bombarded with literally HUNDREDS of very sophisticated sales/influence techniques.
You might have bought some more product.
You may have been convinced to sign one of those [i:72b423641f]sneaky contracts[/i:72b423641f] for one of the big seminar packages, and then may have not been able to get out of it without a big penalty, or could be on the hook for about $10,000.00.
[i:72b423641f](how would it make you feel to know you had signed a contract and now legally owed a SuperGuru about 10 grand right now?)[/i:72b423641f]
If you had done the Firewalk seminar, you may have imprinted Tony Robbins DEEP into your psyche for the rest of your life, or at least 10 years.
[i:72b423641f]How would it feel to have Tony in your brain, and not be able to get him out, even though you wanted to?[/i:72b423641f]
Try an experiment. When folks get back from this seminar, you can ask them questions. You will see how "pumped up" they are, how they feel they can do anything. (for now).
Ask about what they bought there, if they signed up for other seminars. Look at their beliefs, and what they think about Tony now. (they will love him and think he is a genius).
You can observe the effects on other people. They will almost all be "manic" for quite a while.
But it wears off. The high falls away.
That's why some people keep going back, over and over.
They want that manic high, its like some type of drug high, and they need their fix.
There is so much to learn about these things.
Learning about self-improvement is wonderful.
But these LGATS are only about that in a very minor way.
Their real purpose is being discussed in this thread, and on these types of analytical websites.
LGAT's are a very bad way to learn things, except how to be "brainwashed" and indoctrinated unconsciously.
This "first seminar" is about bringing you "into the loop".
And what a loop it is.
It can consume your entire life. It can costs you thousands of dollars. It can get you "hooked" into the sales cycle...
$1,000 ->$3,000 -> $5,000 -> $10,000 -> $30,000 -> $65,000 -> -> $100,000+ -> whatever you might have.
Before ever attending a Mass LGAT Seminar of this nature, one needs to educate themselves, and find out what they are trying to do to you.
But even then, many times its not enough...
[i:72b423641f]They can still "get you", even if you don't want them to...and they know this only too well...[/i:72b423641f][/color:72b423641f]
Just wanted to say a quick thanks for all of the information posted here in this thread... I'd signed up for UPW a few weeks ago (it's being held this weekend) and then did a bunch of research. The coaching thread on the TR forum caught my eye and I found this thread, boy, there was sure a lot to learn...
I've had TR's materials for years, but had never even thought or really heard of the lgat stuff - once I opened my eyes I saw a lot that I didn't like. I find it a shame, as I like the material - but man, the way they go about business stinks. Biggest eye opener - the truth about firewalking. And the implications of that.
It's not the only reason, but, here I am, at home. Sold my ticket. And I have that 'near miss' feeling when something 'bad' almost happens. Phew.