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Posted by: exImpact ()
Date: June 10, 2007 07:13AM

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exImpact and formerimpactgrad:

So what is supposed to happen to people like you who walk out and spill the beans? No ascending? Or do you descend? Did they try to frighten you with things like that?
Beans? exImpact cares not for beans! Seriously, if they really are who they claim to be, they will merely wish us well on our journey. I suspect we are getting under their skin. When I was one of the Berger chums, plenty got underneath their skin. Instead of getting lividly pissed, they would get cold and cruel.

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Posted by: exImpact ()
Date: June 10, 2007 07:20AM

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Impact sounds really nutty!
They are a nut burger on a nut bun with nut toppings (don't hold the nuts), with nuts on the side and nutty dipping sauce for your nuts , complete with a nut shake.

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Posted by: SaneAgain ()
Date: June 10, 2007 07:20AM

The scary thing is what they must've put you through to get to the point of believing all this. That's scary. Its one thing having wacky ideas in books, but putting people through all kinds of emotional and mental grinders to get there... its abominable.


How generous of him to hang around here instead of ascending. Do you think they (Hans and Sally) really believe all this or is it just business?

Not fun being threatened with learning the hard way from the universe - not a problem if you don't believe all that stuff but if you do its the worst threat imagine because its not just this life, its all your lives to come. Personalised hell for infinity.

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Posted by: don'tloveimpact ()
Date: June 10, 2007 07:30AM

I don't get the whole crystal thing.

How do crystals make me more "spiritual"?

Reading about all of this is making me sicker and sicker.

A friend asked me this week if I was ready to go back to Impact. Why would I?

Let me ask your Ex and Former Impact people.....

What was your impression of Hans and Sally while in Impact? And Pamela, Justin and Terry (those were my trainers)?

I really didn't have strong feelings one way or the other about Sally and Terry. They seemed like a bit egotistical nuts...but other than that, I didn't have a ton of problems with them.

Pamela and Hans on the other hand had about the worst energy I ever felt in my life. Pamela was definitely Ursala from Little Mermaid....

Even when she wasn't processing us and was suppose to be "nice"....her smile was cold and scary. So what's the attraction? Why do people keep going back for more?

What are they getting that makes them go back? New-found self-esteem? Power?

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Posted by: formerimpactgrad ()
Date: June 10, 2007 07:33AM

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In defense of Robert Paisola, or Impact (take your pick) Rob went through Impact a two and a half years ago. He was like that before Impact, all his criminal stuff was before Impact, so they didn't create the whole monster. So if there is a conclusion to be made, perhaps it is that since he went through Impact he's not been back to prison (yet). I'm sure there are other conclusions that can be made. I read that article when it came out.

I hope Impact didn't let Paisola onto the teen trainings staff. Do you think they screen for stuff like that? Parents, do you want your children in an emotionally draining and manipulative training with a convicted sex offender in the back of the room teaching your daughters how to hug? Robert hasn't been back to prison yet but he used all kinds of Impact jargon in his creepy interview. Did you like his use of the Summit contract?

Impact didn't create the monster but he sure seems empowered by the training. Robert Paisola is hardly an Impact success story, he's still a conman. Your assertion that Impact may have made a difference with him is completely without evidence. How long was he watching child porn before he got caught the first time? In my experience the Impact trainings only serve to make bad people worse, hence the many instances of sexual and extramarital indiscretion that occurred during my time in the herd. Several of the deviants were on the TIT3 staff.

Didn't create the whole monster? I'm not even sure how to properly disparage a comment like that.

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Posted by: exImpact ()
Date: June 10, 2007 07:54AM

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The scary thing is what they must've put you through to get to the point of believing all this. That's scary. Its one thing having wacky ideas in books, but putting people through all kinds of emotional and mental grinders to get there... its abominable.


How generous of him to hang around here instead of ascending. Do you think they (Hans and Sally) really believe all this or is it just business?.
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Let me ask your Ex and Former Impact people.....

What was your impression of Hans and Sally while in Impact? And Pamela, Justin and Terry (those were my trainers)?

I really didn't have strong feelings one way or the other about Sally and Terry. They seemed like a bit egotistical nuts...but other than that, I didn't have a ton of problems with them.

Pamela and Hans on the other hand had about the worst energy I ever felt in my life. Pamela was definitely Ursala from Little Mermaid....

Even when she wasn't processing us and was suppose to be "nice"....her smile was cold and scary. So what's the attraction? Why do people keep going back for more?

What are they getting that makes them go back? New-found self-esteem? Power?

Yeah Sane, writing this stuff today has weirded me out a bit. I believe the entire office staff fully believes in this garbage yes, AND they are into it for the money, their "abundance" as it were. I think they have lost their minds absolutely. GONZO GONE BANANNAS MAD.

Don'tlove, as for the personal feelings and opinions about these people, they [i:037b8212fb]ARE[/i:037b8212fb] Impact, thusly you may assign my opinions of the organization as a whole to the individuals trainers, staff and many of the long-time "pioneer" TIT3ers.

As to what people think they are getting, it’s been answered already on this and other LGAT boards.

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Posted by: spiritual? ()
Date: June 10, 2007 12:19PM

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I AM the violet flame
in action in me now
I AM the violet flame
to light alone I bow
I AM the violet flame
in mighty cosmic power
I AM the light of God
shining every hour
I AM the violet flame
blazing like the sun
I AM God's sacred power
freeing everyone

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I am the might magic pillar of light protection about me, surrounded by the blue flame of beloved Jesus the Christ, which is surrounded by the violet flame, which is invincible, and repels from me every discordant thought and element which seeks to find entrance or intrude itself, I am the perfection f my world and it is self sustained.

And in full faith I consciously accept this manifest manifest manifest
And in full faith I consciously accept this manifest manifest manifest
And in full faith I consciously accept this manifest manifest manifest
Right here and now in full power, eternally sustained, all powerfully active every expanding and world enfolding until all are wholly ascended into the light and free.
Beloved I AM
Beloved I AM
Beloved I AM.

This is just another of the many decrees that were meant to expand that pillar of mystical fire that is supposed to protect you. Does anyone remember that story Hans used to tell about being attacked in Quest by one of Satan’s minions and then being able to fight back with the violet flame. I think he said something like the guy went to attack him and then was punched to the floor by and unseen force…at which time he ran out of the room never to return. I believe Hans said it was through this experience that he was told by the masters he no longer needed to decree for the violet flame’s protection because it was constantly around him now and he could just trust that it was there. Weird to say the least.

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And on Berger’s pulpit is the second picture, and it is of the Three Fold Flame. This flame is the key to ascension and progression. It occupies the same physical space as your heart, and is your link to life. The Flame is comprised of three parts, one yellow, one pink and one blue. They represent the three prime attributes of God: Love (pink) Wisdom (yellow or gold) and Power (blue). These must be in perfect balance with one another in order for you to be a healthy creator. Balancing these flames is essential for progression and Ascension.

“Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me. Beloved I AM.

Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me.
Take thy command.

Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me.
Magnify it each hour.

Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me. Expand the three fold flame in me.
Love, wisdom, and power.”

And in full faith blah blah blah…

Yes, I used to yell these to the “Universe” on my way to work every morning. Ick! Ick! Ick!

Oh, but you haven’t heard the sickliest one of all. It has been talked about in the forum about TIT 3 being the main recruit “gurus” for Impact and they even have the “energy work” to back it up. About every other month in our meetings we would end with decrees and they would almost always include the following:

“I am enrollment acting here casting out all doubt and fear. Impact’s (insert month and year here) Quest enrollment is now set free on wings of cosmic victory, on wings of mortal victory. I am calling forth full power for Impact’s (Again, insert month and year) Quest enrollment every hour. To all light workers in every place enrollment floods forth in abundant grace.

And in full faith, bleck, bleck, bleck.”

Even as I type these words I’m thinking to myself…If Impact staff read this would they be mad because I’m giving away their secrets or would they be happy that so many people are reading it and thus increasing the multiplication factor even more? Either way, thinking about it is making my head spin. Whether that’s from the fact that the whole thing is sickening or that the vibrational level of the violet flame is now too high for my degenerate four lower bodies I can’t be sure.
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Posted by: Otter ()
Date: June 10, 2007 01:30PM

We're in Yellowstone feeling the natural energy coming from these wonders here. I sat for a minute and found a crystal that I left there from my last life and I was vibrating at its frequency, pretty amazing since its been 506 years since my last life and I'm not sure I left it there in my last life. Could have left it there three lives ago, I'll get more clear on that as I listen to its vibration a bit longer.

Anyway, as I felt of its vibration and energy I got that I get to send you all my blue light to inspire release, healing and unconditional love so that your spirits can become whole again. As I was sitting, somewhat floating on a pink cushion of energy, I got that my orange chakra deserved to release itself. And so it was.

I Am that I AM.

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Posted by: formerimpactgrad ()
Date: June 10, 2007 09:23PM

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Anyway, as I felt of its vibration and energy I got that I get to send you all my blue light to inspire release, healing and unconditional love so that your spirits can become whole again. As I was sitting, somewhat floating on a pink cushion of energy, I got that my orange chakra deserved to release itself. And so it was.

Uhh, thanks for the blue light Otter...I guess.

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Posted by: rrmoderator ()
Date: June 10, 2007 10:07PM

Otter seems "out there" and fairly detached from reality, unless that is, he is just "putting us on."

Let's hope he is just joking.

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