Thank you Richard for your post. I am glad you have not left quietly, but that you are informing people as to why you are leaving. It is a very bold and brave move. I believe that God will bless that. He has for me and I have not been as bold as you have.

God Bless,
Your sister in Christ
Nicole

You out there Nacho?

Well, I know this is not the forum for this but my mother just passed away on September 4th. On top of having to deal with the experience I went through at Radiant Life Church, I have had to deal with watching a loved one suffer and die a miserable death. I have questioned and yelled at god so many times through all of this. But it is funny that it seems that today I am thinking of God more and more in good ways. This is result of the testimonies on this forum and my mom finally passing. I can tell you that everything that I have posted on this forum is me. It is me not holding back. It is me not have fear of what I say and how I say it. I experienced many things at Radiant Life on the outer circle and always in my mind questioned but was led by leaders that were so passionately misled themselves by a very manipulative pastor. I no longer blame those people as I have posted. I blame the pastors, elders, and teachers who are just passing on Tonys teachings and not thinking for themselves. I know I have been brutal and hurt alot of peoples feelings on here, ie Joe [L], probably Paul C, maybe Kevin. But I do love you all an had a good relationship with Kevin at one time. I always spoke what was on my heart and what i beleived. I know I hammered the baby issue but that was big for me and absolutely blew away everyone from other churches that I spoke to about it. I am sorry Paul and Christine if I hurt your feelings over this. You have gone through enough. It is just that you represented leadership at the time. I do not know where you are at right now but I hope all is better. Some of you may read this and say hey he said he was better and forgave me. Well I can tell you maybe I said that but it is a process and Maybe I said that because I felt compelled and wasn't really ready in my heart. I am ready now. I will continue to post on here as I see fit but this forum has come to the point were all the issues are definately on the table. I have no desire to reconcile and go back to RLC. I do have a desire to warn people and help them to not get caught up in something they will regret 2, 3, 4 years down the road. I also have a desire now to get back to God somehow. Richard, you are awesome for coming forward. I always thought you had the humilty and nature to be a pastor. Talking to you at Safeway the last time I saw you helped immensely. Juice...wherever you are, you the man buddy. I know most of you have been wondering this whole time who the heck I am. You have probably had guesses but I can tell you I am really nobody who was greatly affected by all of the mess. So I think, if I was nobody and was greatly affected then what about all of you that were so involved? I love you all. This is part of my moving on.

Joe and Aaron......sincere apologies for whatever hurt and dismay I have caused you.

Sincerly.................................... Marc Christensen AKA Ramses (I thought that was frickin hilarious that Harvest Blast!)



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You out there Nacho?

Well, I know this is not the forum for this but my mother just passed away on September 4th. On top of having to deal with the experience I went through at Radiant Life Church, I have had to deal with watching a loved one suffer and die a miserable death. I have questioned and yelled at god so many times through all of this. But it is funny that it seems that today I am thinking of God more and more in good ways. This is result of the testimonies on this forum and my mom finally passing. I can tell you that everything that I have posted on this forum is me. It is me not holding back. It is me not have fear of what I say and how I say it. I experienced many things at Radiant Life on the outer circle and always in my mind questioned but was led by leaders that were so passionately misled themselves by a very manipulative pastor. I no longer blame those people as I have posted. I blame the pastors, elders, and teachers who are just passing on Tonys teachings and not thinking for themselves. I know I have been brutal and hurt alot of peoples feelings on here, ie Joe[L], probably Paul C, maybe Kevin. But I do love you all an had a good relationship with Kevin at one time. I always spoke what was on my heart and what i beleived. I know I hammered the baby issue but that was big for me and absolutely blew away everyone from other churches that I spoke to about it. I am sorry Paul and Christine if I hurt your feelings over this. You have gone through enough. It is just that you represented leadership at the time. I do not know where you are at right now but I hope all is better. Some of you may read this and say hey he said he was better and forgave me. Well I can tell you maybe I said that but it is a process and Maybe I said that because I felt compelled and wasn't really ready in my heart. I am ready now. I will continue to post on here as I see fit but this forum has come to the point were all the issues are definately on the table. I have no desire to reconcile and go back to RLC. I do have a desire to warn people and help them to not get caught up in something they will regret 2, 3, 4 years down the road. I also have a desire now to get back to God somehow. Richard, you are awesome for coming forward. I always thought you had the humilty and nature to be a pastor. Talking to you at Safeway the last time I saw you helped immensely. Juice...wherever you are, you the man buddy. I know most of you have been wondering this whole time who the heck I am. You have probably had guesses but I can tell you I am really nobody who was greatly affected by all of the mess. So I think, if I was nobody and was greatly affected then what about all of you that were so involved? I love you all. This is part of my moving on.

Joe and Aaron......sincere apologies for whatever hurt and dismay I have caused you.

Sincerly.................................... Marc Christensen AKA Ramses (I thought that was frickin hilarious that Harvest Blast!)

Hey Marc,

I am so sorry to hear about your mom.Considering all that you have gone through in the past couple of days, I read this posting of yours as very light and with peace. I can't tell for sure. I am glad that you are moving forward and that this forum has been a help to you. Again I am sorry to hear about the loss of your mom.

God Bless Bro,
Nicole



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WAJ I am truly saddened at the loss of your mother and my prayers are with you.

I appreciat so much your passion for the truth.

God Bless
keep in touch

First of I want to thank Richard Holmes for what he shared and for telling at breakfast yesterday about this forum. I’ve had the privilege and of know and loving you and you parents for several years. My life and relationship with Jesus is better for it.

The rest of you I know your name I’ve said hi and shook your hands a few times, but I don’t really know you and you don’t know me. So I’ll tell you I placed faith in Christ over 30-years-ago. I’ve attended fellowships that believed nearly everything under the sun you will find in the Body of Christ expect “Oneness” and I am a former licensee of the AoG (Which IMO is irrelevant, because I believe Licensing is unbiblical to begin with). However I have been around and know from first hand experience what is happening at RLC is not unique to it.

To greater or lesser amount I’ve experienced the things I’ve experienced at RLC and with more or less subtlety in every institutional Church I’ve been part of.

I attended there for 12 years and was involved for the last 8 until about 2 months ago. At that time in order fulfill a commitment I’d made I continued to associate with RLC, but I haven’t been to any Sunday Services for at least 2 months and I stopped attending “Prophetic Cadre,” FNW and the Gap in close to a year.

I’m not going to go into any great detail here about my negative and positive experiences and grievances with RLC, because I’m not mad at RLC or Tony Cunning, Dan Flory, Brandon Miller, or others for the things they have taught, or done, or not done that effected me. #1 I would have not even been their in the first place had I not chosen to compromise and walk in less then what I’d learned in my relationship with God in hopes that I would receive the acceptance and respect of man. #2 I believe Tony and the leadership at RLC have been self deceived and blinded to the truth of the false teachings of Tony C. the false practices that they led to.

None of this is to say that I have not had to forgive them and cut ties to RLC and its leaders as I’ve learned they are not trustworthy. I have dealt with feelings of being abandoned, neglected, abused, used, unvalued, betrayed and I believe that I had good reasons to feel that way. I will not list the details here. I have started to blog about my experience in the institutional church and will include little bit of autobiography to add a little context. When I have written more in my blog I’ll let you all know the link and you can read it if you are interested.

Having said the above though I have to say like brother Ted did already I was loved by Dan Flory and the members of RLC when was still Elk Grove Community when I was unlovable, because I was in bondage to Porn and Sexual immorality. However the demonstration of love and acceptance all went down hill with after I repented 8 years ago and I began being a “productive” member of RLC.

It was in Cadre where I heard most of the teaching that I immediately disagreed with and what I saw happening there was nothing that equipped anyone to walk in the prophetic.

First of I want to thank Richard Holmes for what he shared. I’ve had the privilege and of know and loving you and you parents for several years. My life and relationship with Jesus is better for it.

The rest of you I know your name I’ve said hi and shook your hands a few times, but I don’t really know you and you don’t know me. So I’ll tell you I placed faith in Christ over 30-years-ago. I’ve attended fellowships that believed nearly everything under the sun you will find in the Body of Christ expect “Oneness” and I am a former licensee of the AoG (Which IMO is irrelevant, because I believe Licensing is unbiblical to begin with). However I have been around and know from first hand experience what is happening at RLC is not unique to it.

To greater or lesser amount I’ve experienced the things I’ve experienced at RLC and with more or less subtlety in every institutional Church I’ve been part of.

I attended there for 12 years and was involved for the last 8 until about 2 months ago. At that time in order fulfill a commitment I’d made I continued to associate with RLC, but I haven’t been to any Sunday Services for at least 2 months and I stopped attending “Prophetic Cadre,” FNW and the Gap in close to a year.

I’m not going to go into any great detail here about my negative and positive experiences and grievances with RLC, because I’m not mad at RLC or Tony Cunning, Dan Flory, Brandon Miller, or others for the things they have taught, or done, or not done that effected me. #1 I would have not even been their in the first place had I not chosen to compromise and walk in less then what I’d learned in my relationship with God in hopes that I would receive the acceptance and respect of man. #2 I believe Tony and the leadership at RLC have been self deceived and blinded to the truth of the false teachings of Tony C. the false practices that they led to.

None of this is to say that I have not had to forgive them and cut ties to RLC and its leaders as I’ve learned they are not trustworthy. I have dealt with feelings of being abandoned, neglected, abused, used, unvalued, betrayed and I believe that I had good reasons to feel that way. I will not list the details here. I have started to blog about my experience in the institutional church and will include little bit of autobiography to add a little context. When I have written more in my blog I’ll let you all know the link and you can read it if you are interested.

Having said the above though I have to say like brother Ted did already I was loved by Dan Flory and the members of RLC when was still Elk Grove Community when I was unlovable, because I was in bondage to Porn and Sexual immorality. However the demonstration of love and acceptance all went down hill with after I repented 8 years ago and I began being a “productive” member of RLC.

It was in Cadre where I heard most of the teaching that I immediately disagreed with and what I saw happening there was nothing that equipped anyone to walk in the prophetic.

Marc,

I'm sorry to hear about your mom. Having lost my own mom, I can imagine what you are going through. I pray that God's peace continues to sustain you. God Bless you and your family.

Karen

To all who have written recently I want to say thank you very, very much. I will not be posting much anymore because I do not read the forum as regularly as I used to. I will post from time to time in response to others and I am more than willing to respond to personal PM's. I feel that I have done much of the part that God had me do to this point and I am so grateful for the opportunity to be a part of this. It is time for me to focus on what is ahead. It is in the Elders hands at this point. I know that too much of the information provided has been pushed aside and is still being held in secret. For me... I LIVE IN THE LIGHT and do not desire to live in the dark or advocate for anything that is called SIN to be kept in secret. I will not remain silent!!!!! As for now, I have washed my hands clean and trusted the Elders of RLC with this information and with precious testimonies. What they do at this point is up to them and they are accountable to GOD for every action and decision. My prayer is that they fear God and do what is right. If they don't, they will pay do penalties for that perversion and irresponsibility. GOD IS JUST and will have his way.

TONY... though you will not return my call, I will tell you that I forgive you of all the offenses that you have put on me and my family as well as ALL OF MY FRIENDS. I know that you will have to face the consequences of Gods judgment against you, but know it is out of his love for you. THe longer you hold on to your pride and to the misdirecting and abusing of others, the more anger of God is aroused and the penalties you will face. God has shown me dreams of you before this whole charade came to be and I want to let you know that, " Mene [f] : God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it to an end.
27 Tekel [g] : You have been weighed on the scales and found wanting.
28 Peres [h] : Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians

My prayer is for you and for your family. I love your children and Rose and I pray right now for your health, peace and deliverance for them. May Gods justice be made known. May your repentance be in full and your pride be cut short.

As for Mark, I am truly sorry for your loss bro. I will never be able to say "I understand". I hope you will be able to grieve with God in this matter and in the end... find peace.

Richard, I am truly delighted to see your deliverance and to see your salvation and freedom coming to light. I have always believed in you though at times I may have intimidated you with my, at times, aggressive personality. If you ever felt that way around me, I am truly sorry. I have always thought that there is a powerful man inside of you. It is AWESOME to see your freedom being spoken on this site. You, out of many of the people I knew, truly loved the most and truly had the good in mind of others. Bless you bro!

Tom, I had many brush-ups against you in a very positive way. I had no idea that you left the church. You were a very tenacious servant at RLC that often was looked over and taken advantage of. I am glad you are finding truth and being healed. I can only imagine what will come of you, now that you are FREE! May Gods favor follow you whenever you COME IN and GO OUT.

To all who are reading this... BLESS YOU! I am not gone for good just moving forward. Please call me or PM me whenever you feel like it. I will get an email notification when you do. My cell number will be given when you request it on a PM. To the rest of the readers, your testimonies are VERY important! I want to ask you to please post and tell your story. Keep the forum alive so it can be a great support to others who are hurting, lost and are afraid.

Bless you all,
Ryan Lazalier

well it has been awhile.... to all! Marc... I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your mother... my deepest sympathies to you and yours during this time man. as you all know this is antonio... many judge me... personally i don't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks. well now that that is out of the way... i am so amazed at how many folks have come onto this forum and posted and came revealing, unashamed and i am glad to see so many folks i know who have postedd here... Richard.... bro... youu said it all.... i read your posting and that just put everything into perspective i know for may. well as some of u know... my struggles, my addictions... my problems with life and all and i wanted to say thanks for your prayers... to tell u thr truth.... i'm done with this forum now... what has been said has been said and the word got out and many people have come forth... WAJ, Ryan, Matt, Dan, Nicole, Karen, Heidi, Mike "the juiceman" Tom W... where u been at man? Richard Katrina and all who have posted.... thanks for all your postings....but i want to say Dan... what i talked to you about... thank u for your prayers!!! i fell into the blackest hole ever in my life... i finally hit rock bottom... my addictions got the best of me... the alcohol abuse and all that other bullshit...the club venues everything the band and all that... just got old. i finally slammed the ground hard. And you know what Dan... what u have been praying for me... God finally opened my eyes.... I have been trying so hard to be unforgiving it hurst so much to do it... PM me brother... I would hope that I could keep in contact with some of you as I'm still here in Texas.... But you already know I'm Nor*Cal born and raised... I'll get back home soon one way or the other...lol!!!

tkae care everyone.... and have a blessed week!

ANTONIO FLORES

Jim and Linda Miller, Brandon and Annalynn, Bridgette, Terra, Matt and Sarah Michalak and all their children and friends are my family. I remember knowing that on Christmas and fathers day and all the family holidays that my children were spending those days at Tony and Roses. I saw my wife cry wondering why she wasn't enjoying these times with her kids and grand children. I am grateful for all the healing that has taken place and the time we now get to love and enjoy our kids and grandkids. Had a great time of fellowship and laughter over the holidays with the Millers. Brandon I loved hanging out and just being regular guys. To this day I am the kind of guy who will protect his friends and family no matter what the cost. If I sense danger I believe a man should run to the front and do what ever is necessary to protect those he loves. If I were to operate in the flesh knowing firsthand all the spititual and emotional battle wounds that were inflicted on my family at the hands of a man known as Tony Cunningham I would find him pick him up by his neck and beat the living crap out of him. The Holy Spirit does not allow me to entertain this thought because this is not the way to handle this battle. We fight against darkness and pricipalities in a spitiual realm. My weapon is prayer and the boldness to stand up and call evil by its real name whenever it rears its ugly head. I have made so many errors and blunders as a christian,lust,greed,anger,slander,pride,lies,and the list goes on and on, My prayer is that the Lord will always discipline me because the Lord disciplines those he loves.Hebrews chapter 12 talks about this love. If I should ever grow cold to the whisper of the Spirit i am in deep doodoo. My next statment is rather bold but needs to be said in regards to a man who has taken the office of senior pastor. Tony I have heard firsthand the accounts of all your errors from the mouths of those you took under your wing. Your heart is in a dangerous place when your ears no longer perk up at the sound of His voice. He has quit speaking and will now deal with you not as one of His children but that of a Father who will do whatever is necessary to protect His own. To my son Matt I am proud of you for grabbing your sword and being a soldier for the cause of Christ. No matter what the battle whether it be spiritual or fleshly you would be one of my first picks as a man I would want by my side. To all those who have been injured at the hands of false teachings and all the other garbage that was painted to be holy God has heard your cries and is not done. Much has been accomplished by speaking out. To all those brothers and sisters who have gotten out of this mess I would pray that you keep up the good fight. God is not done rescuing the wounded and broken who are still caught in the camp of the enemy.......Sincerely, Shane