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Jael
I was totally in the dark to any of the plotting of TPWOC, or any thing about yesterday's prayer meeting until a e-mail. On Wednesday, I was driving down Firetrail road when I felt I should go drive through Aspen and pray for the True word of God to be seen, heard, and all the cloaking and deceptive twists of His word and promises would be revealed. Thank you Lord, for that nudging.
This morning I read the most recent inputs, yes, prayer is our strongest tool, weapon.
With all the emotions that is whipping around, I ask everyone to hold fast to God's promises.
He never leaves or forsakes us. In Psalms is our cry of the former members of TP.
Let us hold firm to what the word of God says, in 1 Cor. 12:13 "....the greatest of these is LOVE." My experience in TP, they were lacking LOVE. They will say we are fighting this fight because we are bitter, angry, lost. Their view is so tainted from the lies, and deceptions they can't think any other way. I call all of us the show love to the lost, deceived. Think of how Jesus reached the sinners of His day, with love. It is easier to hate and rant about TP leaders attacking Jackie.
Pray, pray, and show love. I pray we can see the deceived people as Christ sees them and not get lost in our emotions during this trial. We can't get caught up in our emotions that we act and say things as they do. The truth will be seen and known.
Mike has whipped up this frenzy as a distraction, and some of the people involved in TP are coming to a (lack of a better term) a turning point in their thoughts of TP. Many are confused and their thoughts are spinning, I pray for clarity.
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Painfuljourney
Die Quietly has a good point. With all the prophetic people in the church no one had dreams or visions about Jackies guilt? Yet so many had dreams about Mike & Cyndi.
Isn't Cyndi the lead prophet of the church? Why didn't God reveal all this to her BEFORE hundreds of people started leaving the church? Why didn't they bring this out then? Is it because they are scared that so many people are leaving? Is it because they are afraid the church is still losing attenders & ultimately more money, putting their lifestyles at risk?
Are the people only staying because their egos are being stroked or because they are getting paid?
Lets just say the accusations are true. They are not but lets pretend. Didn't Cyndi preach on the adulterous woman a few weeks ago? The adulterous woman was found in sin. Guilty in front of all. What did Cyndi say? What did Jesus do? Did He pick up a stone throw it at the guilty & then encourage others to do the same. No. He told others, "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."
So it looks like we can preach on forgiveness, talk about love & grace, speak from the pulpit about loving your enemies & covering over a sin, but then when it comes down to it stack up a big piles of rocks & then stone the most innocent among them.
What do you think? Doesn't sound like Jesus, does it?
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LearningPoint
Ah, Painfuljourney, but there could be ANOTHER plan afoot.
Let's just suppose that Mike and Cyndi (or someone they don't want exposed) are the guilty parties/party of the items in question, and leadership can conveniently pin guilt for the crime on an ex-member...and then, very magnanimously, with utmost spiritual decorum, forgive her? Well, that would serve two purposes: (1) the truly guilty party escapes without being detected; and (2) Mike and Cyndi get another article in the Herald for being such swell church leaders who would forgive such a thing.
This came to my mind because, at this point, nothing would surprise me.
Learning Point, I discussed your point with my husband the other day as a matter of fact. It takes a sociopathic mentality to 1) steal from God, 2) devise a mastermind plan to "pin it on someone else who is a bit vulnerable" and 3) lead followers to the victim and have them all throw stones for ruining their churchand gain media coverage in the process. The reality is, Mike Villamoor is desperate for money. He has evidenced the love of money for years now. His money is drying up and how else will he be able to maintain his lifestyle in the Aspens without his monies remaining constant. I believe he devised this very, very good plan and as a point of payback, is seeking to destroy another person's life. It is simple, very simple. He is very grandiose, in fact, you can very simply google "narcissistic personality disorder" and "histrionic personality disorder" and read all about Mike and Cyndi Villamoor. The narcissistic personality disorder at times can have crossovers from the sociopathic disorder as well. Sociopath's believe the rules of society (God as well) apply to others but not themselves. They are capable of emulating feelings to the point of fooling you. Look at Ted Bundy. I'm not saying Mike is a serial killer, or is he? Who will be next. TPC attenders should be asking themselves this question. Do you stay for the love of money? Can you continue to trust the leadership and perhaps you will be the next pinpointed thief?