To RR
can add some things, but it will need to wait a couple of days! And it is neither a simple nor a single story‘

looking forward to hearing some facts even if we can’t get complete transparency.
Like you said the person(s) who dealt with the bank accounts (possibly Chris Jewell?) is the one who knows the real facts.

Thinking of Cedars school, I’m amazed that the congregation have not asked for complete transparency with regards the school funds. At the end of the day the money that leadership spent came from ordinary members sitting in the pews! They have a right to know how their money was used.
For example I remember Alison Speirs stating from the platform in Glasgow that the money for her pension would be coming out of the Glasgow Church finances! The congregation had no say in this matter …it was a done deal. I know a few people were not happy with this announcement. Whether that actually happened or not should be shown in the financial records. The question is why should a church be financing the school pensions surely that should have come out of Cedars Schools budget. But as we know Cedars School did not finance itself, the SMC churches financed it.
And as the Petitor pointed out re OSCR
‘suspect OSCR have not looked too closely at this however or they could not really reach that conclusions’
I don’t know how OSCR maintained Cedars charity status, I’m not an accountant but even I could see that the Cedars Schools budget was not self-sustainable and they were spending money (or Alison Speirs) way beyond their means.

I’m not bringing up anything new, this forum and the Latigo site looked at all this years ago but it’s is baffling that the leadership allowed all this to happen.
I think I’ve come to the conclusion that SMC leadership were not business minded in a practical way. Basically their philosophy of ‘they hear directly from God’ put them in a sphere of unreality and they desperately failed to use the gifts of money from members in a transparent, productive way.

Amazing Grace,

I think your final point, “I think I’ve come to the conclusion that SMC leadership were not business minded in a practical way. Basically their philosophy of ‘they hear directly from God’ put them in a sphere of unreality and they desperately failed to use the gifts of money from members in a transparent, productive way.” is really central to what went wrong in Struthers.

It reminds me of what happened in the early Pentecostal movement.

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Wikipedia page on Charles Fox Parhan, who was basically the founder of the Pentecostal movement.
Parham believed that the tongues spoken by the baptized were actual human languages, eliminating the need for missionaries to learn foreign languages and thus aiding in the spread of the gospel.[37] Some of Parham's followers even traveled to foreign countries in hopes of using glossolalia to communicate with the locals without learning the local languages. But after consistent failed attempts at xenoglossia "many of Parham's followers became disillusioned and left the movement."

Like you, I believe Struthers fell into the same trap, naively thinking that God would directly provide all the gifts they needed. This sounds good on the surface but it only takes two minutes thought to realise that is never the way God has worked. Parham made this mistake and sent missionaries out to countries thinking they could speak the language without learning it. Struthers thinks people can have business acumen without developing it, can advise on marriage with no appropriate training and can preach without having any supervised study - and none of that is working either. (Funnily enough, they have never expended this to fixing cars or playing the piano though. If this is the way God works, why does he not just anoint someone to play the piano or teach chemistry?)

In searching for the info about Parham, I also read through the Wikipedia page on Pentecostalism. One of the thing I had not realised was all the different Pentecostal denominations arose because of doctrinal disagreements. The thing I find interesting about that is I have no idea which of these branches Struthers belongs to. They claim affinity with different parts of the Pentecostal movement but have not actually explored the doctrine and whether it is possible to have a coherent whole when they take a bit from here and a bit from there. If you for example read the Wikipedia pages about the Holiness Pentecostalism you will find that Holiness Pentecostals believe in three "works of grace" (salvation, sanctification THEN baptism in the holy spirit – in that order). Part of the logic behind that doctrine is that "The Holy Spirit cannot fill an unclean vessel". That would of course fly in the face of the Struthers practice of casting demons out of Christians who had already been saved and baptised in the holy spirit.

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Holiness Pentecostalism
The relationship between the second work of grace and the third work of grace is explained by Holiness Pentecostals who teach the "Holy Spirit cannot fill an unclean vessel", so the cleansing of the heart that takes place in entire sanctification is necessary before a person can be filled or baptized with the Holy Spirit.[7] Inheriting the Wesleyan-Holiness doctrine, Holiness Pentecostals teach entire sanctification is a definite second work of grace, accomplished in an instantaneous crisis experience, that cleanses the heart of the recipient from all sin; this state of Christian perfection is evidenced by love for God and love for neighbour

So, not quite sure what the Struthers position is, but it is clearly not Holiness Pentecostalism which is what Azuza Street was all about.

I was very interested in The Petitor's comments on the emergence of the various Pentecostal denominations, which sent me to my bookshelves to unearth a book by the late J. I. Packer which I read a number of years ago ("Keep in Step with The Spirit") in which he traces the various "streams" that fed into the Pentecostal/neo-Pentecostal/Charismatic movements. The book is about a lot more than that -- it's also a very insightful (and gracious) commentary on pentecostal/charismatic belief and practice, much too detailed to comment on here but worth reading for those interested in pursuing the history of Pentecostalism. (Not for the faint-hearted and definitely not bedtime reading though!). And yes, it does seem that SMC is very much a "pick-and-mix" version of Pentecostalism, which would in itself make an interesting study as to the reasons why.

As someone who found learning a complex (and beautiful) Asian language a particular challenge, I had to smile (wistfully) when I read The Petitor's findings re Parnham's belief that he could send tongues-speaking missionaries overseas without having to learn the language of their adopted culture. If only!

When I first read Packer's book (during the period when I was questioning much of Struther's doctrine and practice) I found his comments on speaking in tongues particularly interesting. In essence, he believes that "glossolalia" in spite of its speech-like syllables does not have the features of an actual language with grammar, syntax, etc. Rather it is a kind of non-conceptual "free vocalisation" -- something that is a virtually universal human capacity, as those of us who have lived and worked in other cultures know very well -- and something similar to what babies do before they learn to talk. At the same time, Packer believes it can have value (as I do) in expressing the deep emotions of the human psyche which are sometimes inexpressible in one's native tongue. Maybe in much the same way that certain music can sometimes do?

These 3 posts appeared yesterday in another heading in the Destructive Churches forum posted under the name Esmespiers
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Thoughts on Alison Spiers:

1: She was a bully of the lowest order.
2 She used to brag about "Bringing the church down".
3 She used to criticise the Black family.
4: She bullied the kids in the Vestry& the adults
5: Her daughter Lorns was so rude & cruel.
6: Alison Spiers Mantra, " You Will Break To My Will". You Will BREAK"!
7: She sponged from church funds!
8: Are our Lives richer from knowing her? LOL heard many celebrated when she left.
9: Heard some believed their prayers were answered!

Oh Rensil remember you well,
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Thoughts on Alison Spiers_ Horror minister.

1- She shouted loudly, get the microphone of Graham l want to talk about the Blacks.

2: Elaine Mc Ken ie Smith the Goffur laughs hysterically when her " Leader" speaks. Her poor kid did she ever know who her mammy was? That poor wean wis neglected.No surprise she suffered trying to "Break to her mammy's best Pal, so pathetic. Heard she got the vetstry treatment. You know." You are pathetic, a noone, a nobody And Will Break To My WILL".

Heard it was awful for the wean. Her mother stated "" Alison needs to be obeyed"
Really no wonder the wean suffered and was so stressed.

3: Heard they didn't all get the invites to the Cedars commune get the hugs or fawning. Janice Henderson confirmed that.

4: Fiona and Jay fund The new church spiers runs LOL. What is her reason for doing this well Jabice said Fiona needs is Alison Spiers to tell her what to do.

5 Some didn't Break to Spiers and we were Loathed for that. Sent to the Vestry to face the wall. She shouted at me, almost spat in my face. I tried not to break down but it was so hard, vl wanted to run but Elaine was always there backing her up. " Give in. Just yield to Mrs spiers then you will know God's love".
I had to pretend l had broken just to get away from that women.
But, l know there is a God because he made her leave.
J travels from Glasgow to Inverkip and leaves upset most weeks as F got prayed with and she didn't, pathetic. Grow up.

6: l love God with all my heart, but not the way spiders portrayed him. She is now attending a church in Largs no doubt bullying anyone listening to her.

Don't want to upset anyone or be disrespectful.
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Mrs Alison Spiers Horror story minister:

Sorry for the typo errors.

1: " Give me them when their young l will break them", and she did.
2. Her side kick followed her like a pup, Elaine and wanted others to do the same.
3: Spiers, Mc Kenziew Smith, chicken or the egg!
4: Heard from J Henderson that Alison was responsible for the funding crisis in the
school. She got her mittens on finances often with offering taken for her and she
got her pension from the church as well as lots of gifts to buy her flat.
5: We were shouted at, pilloried, sent to Vestry to be shouted at.
" l am big prophet, you are pathetic Person and will do as l say. DO You UNDERSTAND"?

The worst time when that happened and she had Hyde (Elaine) with her. I was in the vestry again for allegedly
upsetting Lorna Spiers. They sat, l stood in front of them.
Spiers looked at me and said " knees", Elain laughed. I stood then she was behind me Mrs Spiers said Knees so on your knees and break!
I was an adult and didn't want to but l could feel Hyde(Elaine) sort of put pressure on my shoulders.. I was going down.
Spiers pounced put me forward. I was on the carpet and she prayed so loudly in tongues l thought my ears would burst. I did cry but out of sheer frustration.
To add insult to injury l could hear them chat. Lorna Spiers appeared and l was hauled by Hyde to my feet. Apologise to Miss Spiers. I mumbled Sorry, but no that wasn't good enough. Straight girl, and loudly... Blah blah blah....
My humiliation was complete. Lorna grinned and l wept.

But, l know God is good as Spiers has gone, just like all bogey men.

Esmespiers

Thank you for posting.

EVERY TIME we think we have heard it all something more dire and appalling appears.

Everyone responsible for the Spiers appointment as a Struthers leader should be hanging their heads in shame.

They should be taking to their own knees in sorrow and repentance for the harms their covering up her actions as a Struthers Church leader have done. And even worse their defending and justifying and ENABLING THROUGH MASSIVE FUNDING such a grossly unsuitable person. May God have mercy on her and those who chose to be her willing power hungry minions.

And let us never forget her and ALL the other Struthers leadership (then and now) justify the treatment of Esmespiers detailed in her post by claiming that they do these inhuman and vaguely perverted power trip things because they have special access to the mind of God. They claim for themselves that they are specially holy and as the crazed delusional Mrs Spiers publicly claimed she and the other “special” leaders in Struthers Memorial Church cannot be criticised because they: “only act on the express guidance of the Lord God of Hosts.”

Well maybe one day that will help her explain to the Almighty what she did to her parishioner Esmespiers supposedly in his name. And presumably not because she was a delusional self aggrandising power hungry bully who used the name of God as a means to wield power and enjoy the humiliation of others.

But we don’t need to speculate do we. The Struthers Executive are holding the answer.


Apparently when the Spiers schism occurred in 2023 many came forward to the Struthers leadership and claimed terrible things had been happening for years in the communal house run by Mrs Spiers. Including claims of inappropriate control, bullying and financial nonsense. Vivien Goodbrand, a retired social worker and long term member of Struthers Memorial Church was asked to speak to those complaining and assess in a written report whether these claims contained any truth and whether the Struthers leadership should have acted sooner.

Why did they do this? Because more people were threatening to leave. So as a way of dealing with the thorny and difficult questions about why they enabled this, and the equally thorny question of why (when God directs them in great detail as he did Moses) they either didn’t have a clue what was going on; or were fully aware and did sod all about it.

That report was completed and presented to the then executive at around the same time Grace Gault and Jennifer Jack resigned from the executive and as directors of the charity – though not from leadership of their churches. So if the report found them culpable for anything they appear to have been sorry - but not all that sorry. As we all know at that point Mrs Rutherford was placed in overall leadership and the consequences of that are many fold and still rumbling on.


So Esmespiers can I ask you if you were interviewed by Vivien Goodbrand and asked to share your experience of how you found life in the Cedars/Struthers/Speirs communal houses?

And can I ask any poor beaten down remaining Struthers people - Has this report about the conduct of their own church leadership been openly shared with all those attending Struthers Churches? Or has it been kept secret by the very leaders whose actions it was designed to examine?


And can I ask Mrs Goodbrand -

Were those interviewed and named in this report even given a copy of what was written about them?

Was Mrs Spiers given a copy and asked to account for her actions while a leader in Struthers Memorial Church?

In your professional opinion: Should such a safeguarding report be kept secret by the leaders of a church?

And also in your professional opinion: Is keeping this report secret consistent or entirely at odds with the current Struthers Church Safeguarding policy?

I heard a rumour that the AGM is this week. I wonder if that is correct and if so, what sort of reports/ decisions will be presented.

I am convinced that 80% of the Members think not making any effort to respond to this forum is an unscriptural and embarrassing failure on the part of the leaders. Whether that is even debated will to me give a very clear indication of whether the leadership are serious about allowing the Members to have any say in important matters or if they are being treated like children from a century ago who were told to be seen but not heard.

I have already made some suggestions as to what might be asked at the AGM, but I would settle for one simple question. Do the leaders believe in Matthew 5v23 and 24?

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Matthew 5v23 and 24
Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift.

This very clearly says that, if your brother or sister has something against you, there are two things you need to do:

1) Go and be reconciled to them, and
2) Come and offer your gift

The whole point of the verse is that they must be done in that order – step one followed by step two.

What Struthers has until now taught is the opposite. They have taught that, if your brother or sister has anything against you, do step two first. This is totally the opposite of what scripture says.

They then take this even further, telling folks that, if they do step two properly, they will not even need to do step one, because they will just forget all about step one.

That has been their teaching – they have deliberately taught people how to ignore the needs of others. They have even gone as far as having people stand on the platform and say how wonderful it was when they did the opposite of this verse, and how much God blessed they for disobeying His word.

Could someone please raise this at the AGM – Do the leaders believe in Matthew 5v23,24 and will they change their teaching and practice to comply with this scripture, encouraging, supporting and directing people to implement these verses and will first go and be reconciled (Note by the way, it does not say “wait until they come to you to be reconciled", but GO and be reconciled. Leave your gift behind. Do not say, "well, they could come to me, so I may as well get on with step two while I am waiting for them to initiate step one. That is NOT what the scripture says. Stop making things up and do what is says on the tin.)
Is that too much to ask?

If you want an example of that teaching, I unashamedly repeat below my post from October 23 2024:

QUOTE FROM MY EARIER POST
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I was interested to read Diana’s “Thought for the week” this week (dated 20/10/24). It was based on Matthew 18v31, which says, “When some of the other servants saw this, they were very upset. They went to the king and told him everything that had happened.”

It advises readers to go to the King (referring to God), saying things like:

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Thought for the week 20/1024
Even when you are ‘very upset’ as in this story, take the matter to the King. It will help enormously as you talk to Him about it all. He may lift the burden, give you a deeper understanding of the situation, or suddenly fill you with compassion for the one causing the upset. He may even ask you to deal with the situation.

There is little wrong with that as generic advice, especially as it includes the possibility of action. I am less impressed with the conclusion however, which is:

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Thought for the week 20/1024
This is what God wants for His church. And so when you are very upset, take it to the King and tell Him everything that has happened. I guarantee it will lead to peace.

The problem here is that the idea of action has suddenly been dropped, and the message is that what you do when something upsets you is take it to God and you will then feel better. This is very far from the message of this passage.

First of all, this is a parable that Jesus told. The message of the story was about how you should treat others, not about how you should take things to God. As is often the case in Struthers, they take a single verse out of context and use it to say what they want to say. I know this is a "thought for the week" not a full-blown sermon, but it is still mis-using the Word of God, as it is using a verse to say the opposite of what it actually says in context. This is exactly the kind of thing that is done in sermons, where it is totally inappropriate.

The story is in fact not about taking things to God at all, it is about taking things to a human ruler and the human ruler taking action as a result. There is nothing about anyone feeling more peaceful.

It is also about a person who did things wrong. The servants were “very upset” because they saw injustice. They took this injustice to the person in charge and that person acted to correct the injustice. So this would be like, oh, I don’t know, someone noticing something that was wrong in the church and taking it to the leaders - who would immediate tell them they were wrong to criticise. Oh, sorry: I don’t know how that slipped in, I thought for a moment that was what happened in the parable – the servants went to the King and the King told them they were wrong to criticise him because he was the king and so he threw them all into prison.

I think I may have to back and read that passage again.

Seriously though folks, this is not Biblical teaching. This is taking a single verse out of context and teaching exactly the opposite of what it says. This passage says it is OK to tell Kings they are wrong and, if the King is wise, they will listen and act to correct injustice. Struthers never seems to preach about the Biblical requirement to ensure justice in the here and now and they say it is wrong to be critical, which is exactly the opposite of what Jesus is saying here.

There is also a huge part missing here, which relates to that justice question. The servants were upset because what they saw was unjust. They did not need to be comforted or made to feel better, they needed to see justice.

Take the case of David being confronted by the prophet Nathan. I am sure that he was “very upset” at what Nathan had just said. The answer in that case was not to “take it to God so that God would make him feel better”. It was to realise he had been in the wrong and to repent. Seems to me that is the kind of thing the leaders should be stating in their “thought for the week” – “I was wrong: I need to repent”. Not “you are wrong to be feeling upset or depressed and it is all your fault because you are not doing things right”.

What would have happened if David had reacted this way? He could have said – “look folks, I am really upset here, I need to take it to God and tell Him about it” then returned an hour later and said, “it is OK, I am much more peaceful now”.

This is not scriptural folks. This is not a good shepherd feeding the sheep, this is a bad shepherd who has lost a number of sheep over decades and, instead of doing what the Bible says and going out to find them, is barricading the doors so that no more can escape.

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END OF THAT QUOTE
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And as I said on 22 May 2011

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QUOTE FROM MY POST May 2011
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CovLass, you are (once again!) spot on in your analysis. The Leaders in Struthers can go around saying “yes of course we make mistakes” all they like, but until they take action to correct these mistakes, no-one is going to believe them. As I said on 22 March:

“Confusion and upset, and it is always the fault of the people, never the fault of the leaders. That is why I think Matt 5v23 is so important. It shows that Christ did not say to people – ‘ignore any wrong to those around you, just go into a corner and pray. As long as you can feel My presence in meetings it will all be fine.’ He said that you were accountable TO OTHER PEOPLE for your actions, and you had to respond to their concerns. Mr Black frequently confirmed this when he spoke of Cain and Abel, "Cain asked 'Am I my brother’s keeper' and God's answer was yes, you are."

You know, I have just read over the last 18 pages of comments (took a while!) and there is just so much clarity and consistency there. So many people that did not settle for accepting someone else’s second-hand belief, but wanted a direct relationship with God. People that could not be trapped in delusion but, often through real trauma, broke free of the oppression.

That is why I don’t entirely agree with your comment Clive,

“Naturally attempts by Covlass and Petitor will fall on deaf ears in such a situation. It is part of the human condition to defend ones own beliefs and loyalties, regardless of being confronted by new facts that contradict things.”

In many cases, they will. I take your point entirely as far as the leaders are concerned. They and the favoured few who get all the attention have stopped their ears and have no interest in the truth, only their cosy delusion. I am not so sure about others in the congregation however. The situation is very much the Emperor’s New Clothes. Almost all of the congregation know in their hearts that they are getting nowhere in Struthers. All it takes is for one or two to ask some questions, for example asking the leaders whether they believe in Matthew 5v23. They will discover that the leaders are hypocrites who put their own discernment before scripture, as their reply will be something like, “yes of course I believe in that verse, and if God ever told me to apply it, I would, but he has told me not to apply it to people I have hurt or to those nasty people on RickRoss”. That puts them above scripture, and in direct conflict with God, and most people will see that.

It will take time, but the leaders of Stuthers are not more powerful than God. They are not even more powerful than human nature, and they cannot keep people trapped forever. One small breach in the dam, and the floods will open. The leaders know that, and that is why they are closing down, no longer publishing sermons online and removing the testimonies to healing form their website. If you want an idea of how it might develop, read some of the other threads on this forum, for example, the first few and the last few pages of Turning Point World Outreach Centre. Many, many other churches have claimed the same unique access to God but reality catches up eventually.

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Hmmm. "the leaders are not more powerful than God", “reality catches up eventually” Dozens of folk leaving, finances in a mess, having to close the bookshops and the school, rumours of all sorts of safeguarding issues... It is almost as if ignoring the Biblical teaching to seek out your brother or sister and be reconciled and instead following the totally unbiblical teaching that all you need to do is come to the altar and offer your worship has not led to good outcomes.


As the Greek asked recently, “what happened to the person who built their hose upon the sand?”

I do not think for one minute any of the leaders will open up questions like Matthew 5v23,24 at the AGM, they are far too busy trying to shut down questions and teach people their favourite doctrine of hiding your head in the sand. Would be very interesting if an ordinary member raised this though. Ordinary members of Struthers - you need to know whether your leaders accept the authority of scripture or are just making up their own belief system. Ask them about Matthew 5v23, 24. Tell them they have to obey scripture. That is what Nathan had to do to David, at risk to his own life. You are not being asked to risk your life here, you are just being asked to risk the disfavour of the leaders. Should that matter to you?



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Mrs Piers Horror Minister:
To the Greek, no we were asked nothing 2 years ago. But, Mrs Rutherford was kind to us. Mrs Rutherford knew Glasgow had to worst minister.

1- Did spiders ever read the Bible.
2: She shouted and ranted about everyone
being useless unless " you need to yield
to me. You need to obey me"! Total sh...
3: You have no hope, destiny or life outwith
Here. You will remain Under my control.
4: She knew a text from Hebrew that was it.
The so called preaching was rant, rant
rant.
5: Cedars was terrible. There were rules
about everything from Jeckyl and Hyde
. Spiders and Elaine Mc Kenzie snith. Katie
her daughter and Lorna spiders were wee
madams. Heard Lorna Sp took a mental
breakdown just like her narcisstic mother.

6: " Get the mics off l need to slag off Mrs
Rutherford and Grace. But make sure l say
Positive comment.
7:" Rebels vestry, Esme we will deal with
you last and remember l can be here to
9pm! " Why did l not just run but hard
when family are involved.
8: I will share re J Henderson and the "
Issue scandal" from years ago. That will
come very soon.
I am trying to put my life together.
Esme
last
nice comment.
5: No cinema, vno capes, no drugs, vno TV
No screens, no life. " Break to me or
your spiritual life is dead"

Still sharing re Horror Minister. Alison Spiers:

1 Cedars day out! " Esme today is a lesson on servitude, so you will make lunch for our 30 friends and 14 of us". I wanted to protest but it was futile. The family had to be obeyed or maybe God would depart.

2: Her precious son was less than white as some on this forum know, but he got away with it. But the trauma for those left behind.!

3: Lorna her daughter took something but l heard Amy got the blame for that.we all got blamed for the things Lorna did. When Lorna did something wrong she was struggling when l did the same thing when younger it was " Esme vestry, byiu know the routine and hopefully Hyde.. Oops Elaine will be free to add to the cruelty... Ooops blessing.... Really!
4: Amy got chucked out for something Lorna did so it was back to Glasgow for her. Her" nurturing special time was over".

5: Spiers was needing money so she took some hopefuls, from Glasgow and they paid hundreds monthly for special, rising star tuition what a sick sick, sh... Joke.

6: She took a tantrum a few years ago as she realised Mrs Vault was retiring and she would not have the top spot. She neveriked Mrs Rutherford so she stomped out. Not a word to her congregation.

7: Janice Henderson told me Alison was so Godly, really... Really! Janice went with her but it's not working as Hyde has all the access to the guruuuu!

8: Thought God is the one to be followed not an old old delusional woman now attending the church of Nazare in Largs check out Facebook! She also has her own minions that get hammered at 3pm in Inverkip.

Hope it's alright sharing again.
Esme.

I had a look at the Largs Church Of The Nazarine on Facebook.

Going by the photos, they certainly serve up some good food! :-)

Alison Piers, aka Spiders Horror minister:

1: Did you speak to Alison in confidence,
wrong, it was instantly shared with
Elaine, aka Hyde. The listened into by us in cedars!

2: The pure in heart shall see God, strange she thought all her folks were foul- yuk really unean!

3: We called her spiders as she, was everywhere, knew everything and loathed Mrs Rutherford. That was an open secret.

4: " Circle time'", idea sitcin a circle and, she would, give you a special word. She would come to me and say " Esme is there any hope, your a bit of a lost cause, but more vestry session will help. I tried to get out of them but Hyde knew we're to find me and loved reporting me to Spiders.
5: Are you all okay well not according to Spiders." People ill at camp it's sin l tell you filthy sin in their lives. WHEN WILL THEY break to my Will Hyde.".
6: Janice Henderson, " Sorry love got Me Alison but lm getting over having a bad attitude. I wanted to stay at home on Sunday morning because l felt ill".
Spider answer. " Vestry on Sunday and Hyde will be there as well, double torture... Eh blessing"
7: Sovwhy speak now because she is prancing about Largs thinking she is a blessing! Checkout Largs church of Nazarene YouTube, there she is.
8: My life is on track but what about my old pals Sarah, Andy, Rhian they escaped. Andy has plenty to say.
Must go.
Esme.
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