I had a look at the Largs Church Of The Nazarine on Facebook.

Going by the photos, they certainly serve up some good food! :-)

Alison Piers, aka Spiders Horror minister:

1: Did you speak to Alison in confidence,
wrong, it was instantly shared with
Elaine, aka Hyde. The listened into by us in cedars!

2: The pure in heart shall see God, strange she thought all her folks were foul- yuk really unean!

3: We called her spiders as she, was everywhere, knew everything and loathed Mrs Rutherford. That was an open secret.

4: " Circle time'", idea sitcin a circle and, she would, give you a special word. She would come to me and say " Esme is there any hope, your a bit of a lost cause, but more vestry session will help. I tried to get out of them but Hyde knew we're to find me and loved reporting me to Spiders.
5: Are you all okay well not according to Spiders." People ill at camp it's sin l tell you filthy sin in their lives. WHEN WILL THEY break to my Will Hyde.".
6: Janice Henderson, " Sorry love got Me Alison but lm getting over having a bad attitude. I wanted to stay at home on Sunday morning because l felt ill".
Spider answer. " Vestry on Sunday and Hyde will be there as well, double torture... Eh blessing"
7: Sovwhy speak now because she is prancing about Largs thinking she is a blessing! Checkout Largs church of Nazarene YouTube, there she is.
8: My life is on track but what about my old pals Sarah, Andy, Rhian they escaped. Andy has plenty to say.
Must go.
Esme.
4:

Hi Esmespiers
Welcome to this Forum and Thankyou for your posts and detailed information. It truly is shocking about the way you were treated, especially being continuously told to go into the vestry to get prayed with, if one could call that treatment “prayer”. More like verbal and even physical abuse! What good did it serve? This “breaking of the will” concept is scary and dangerous. No other person should be trying to break someone’s will, which is a deep part of our inner being and personality. Very harmful indeed.

It’s incredible that A Speirs would criticise and run down the Black family, after all they had done for her in past years. She got her positions as Minister of the Glasgow church and as paid Head Teacher at Cedars School because of them: (Hugh Black chose her after hearing her preach, and Mary Black trained and mentored her). Where’s all the love and unity the Struthers leaders go on about? Jesus said that people would know that we are His disciples if we love one another! Not much evidence of that going on, is there? And not liking Diana Rutherford either? A divided house, or church, cannot stand, according to the Bible. Oops, I forgot, they don’t really read or study the Bible properly.

Your friend J Henderson would be advised to get away from A Speirs’s group and leave it all behind. It sounds just like a mini-Struthers gathering. You can take someone out of Struthers but it’s not so easy sometimes to get Struthers thinking out of them. Leaving a meeting upset because you’ve been ignored is typical of the emotions people often feel in Struthers, because they’re looking up to a leader whom they’ve put on a pedestal. If they don’t get their emotional needs met, they feel ignored and upset. That’s not what normal church-life is about though. As you said also, Esme, a person wants Alison to tell them what to do. That sure smacks of cult-like behaviour. Only God plus our own decision-making should be telling us what to do.

Perhaps you had already left Struthers when Mrs Goodbrand was carrying out her survey and report, around 2023. Did anyone who had left Struthers and been adversely affected by A Speirs’s ministry, get interviewed by Mrs Goodbrand? I agree with TheGreek that the contents of her report should not be kept secret.

I hope you will post some more of your experiences and observations, Esmespiers. You have a great sense of humour too and I’m glad you are rebuilding your life.

Horror Minister¬Alison Piers, Aka Spiders, insult to tarantulas!
Please forgive my typos and errors but was educated by spiders and she wasn't bright.

Thoughts on Spider. :

1 l asked her this question. " Spider... Em Mrs Spiers why did Jesus call himself the son of man?".
Reply, " What a silly question Esme he was God and you should know that by now". Clearly it her her away from the 1 text she knew. She also blurted out and why exactly Are You reading the bible. I Will direct you and Remember "Break, Break Break or l will destroy you. Watch out darleks!

2:", Esme Vestry 1pm when folks have gone
apart from Hyde and l ltvisctime you were set free. I asked my dad if l could give it a miss. " This is a great opportunity Esme do as your told". I was 18 and ft like saying naff off or p... Off, but to the vestry it was.
Got the usual knee treatment, bowing, grovelling etc etc. Ooooh into God presence we come Esme, come come. " I'm here, lm here", that was it. " How dare you, yoooo, yooo wretch, wretch". I think l need to go, but no Hyde was saying " Out, out out". We just came in the whole episode was crazy. Spiders was beetroot red and Hyde was saying your making Mrs Piers ill. She has given her life for this church and taken nothing. Well apart from money for the pension,living expenses and and her flat".
I was feeling rung out by it all but began to cry, " lm feeee, freed, free at last. I knew Piers would identify with that as she liked everything free!!!

3: Spiers looked pleased, lve" done it, l have given you your freedom! Aye right believe that believe anything.

4: Heard Janice Henderson was getting over the adultery and was weeping to Alison, aka spiders about it. Hyde Elaine said it was her own fault for being so trusting of Ronnie and Jacqueline Shuttleton. Elaine Mac Donald's erstwhile sister.

5: Graham Mc Ken ie Smith you to get fed up of spiders in his Web eh... House so he used to disappear to paint. He said Elaine should have married Alison, who knows there's still time yet.

6: Katie, would maybe better understand life if Spiders and aibe were honest about what the h... Was going on.
Had to get it out there folks.
Thanks Esme.

Esme,

Welcome to the forum. All of that sounds just so horrible and demeaning. The stuff about trying to break people is just terrible. That basically is spiritual abuse.

It is just incredible that leaders can hear that sort of story and not be filled with compassion. That is the real horror – that the leaders and indeed the members of the congregation can hear that sort of thing and not feel the need to do anything. How hard must your heart be to block this off? The only times this happens in the Bible is when people’s hearts are hardened due to constant disobedience.

This is the exact opposite of loving one another.

On another note, it will be interesting to see what comes out of the AGM this evening. Will the leaders really hand over power to the ‘real’ members, so they become the ones who decide how to respond to this sort of issue? That could be interesting.

Thank you The Greek, Rensil and Petitor
1: We never knew life outwith the commune,
oops Cedars, the vestry or Church.

2: " The break to my will nightmare was
almost normal but didn't seem right to
me."

3: Her kids Fraz and Greeting face Lorna
, better not share her nick name played a
weird sort of game, along with Fraz. He
was like a surrogate husband along
With Hyde. They played spiders they
really did. " If we go to camp can we
take meetings and pray with people, not
so much Fraz but Lorna, lamb chops!

4: So there we have it the 14 year old
Horror duplicate daughter Lording it
over her Elders and betters. She managed
to upset almost as many folks as her mother. She was demanding 6 year old break to her will,

5: Andy pretended she was great because she
struggled with her class size of 1 to 3
pupils and heard she hated one of them,
we could all see it.

6: She was older than me by about 7 years as
my big sister was close to Rhian and Andy,
but she didn't like me being around and
would run off complaining to spiders, what
a total whimp!
" Mum, mum Esme, was smoking, Esme said a bad word does she need set free?"

7: "Heard some in the Glasgow church
preferred the other leader a woman called
Mary Black. Spiders hated that bunch. I
would hear her chat to Hyde, if only we
could move them on!
Some of them wanted bible studies but she hated all that.
" Esme no need for the Word, l here, Yikes that's what worries me.".

8: Petitor, l couldn't tell my pals how bad the Vestry torture... Loops blessing was because it was humiliating. But, now l can
share because why should she strut around
Largs like she is special when she has
been so awful. Even Janice is seeing
through.
9: On Sunday spider's Hyde and maybe even Janice will be saying their blessed as theirr Web.. Eh eh work is being verbally challenged.

Need to check on the kids.
Thanks for even noticing and watch out. for webs!
Esme



ring a very loud bell?

That stupid woman fell for it.

Spider

Hyde is Elaine Mc Kenzie Smith, Alison Spiers Goffur.
Alison is Jeckly
Lorna Sliers is lamb chops,... Oops wasn't given permission to share but have done it.
Amazed the posts are still on. I did notice, lm sure Fraz removed any other comments re his mother, he is an lT specialist.
LOL remember that horrendous solo that her granddaughter Sang every week. That girl was to singing what Frankenstein was to modelling. Our ears are still struggling to recover.
Rensil, l have a life free from her tyranny.
Esme

Hmmm...I can see why Big Alison Speirs was attracted to Church of the Nazarene in Largs...food looks AWESOME!

I wonder if she's made a bid for the platform yet ...

Hi all - Some of these comments and conversations are becoming slightly problematic and worrying, and I think we would do well to refocus. SMC controls people's lives, has a dodgy belief system, and has systemically harmed and continues to harm families and communities. They are bullies - so let's not stoop to their level by commenting on people's weight/size/looks/intelligence etc.

Ok I have been very quiet for a while .Has been a very interesting and worrying read these past few weeks.

Welcome Esme to the forum I am very sorry of everything you have went through. Rise above them please. We are all hear to help and support each other.

OK let's trying somthing a wee bit diffrent. We have all talked about our bad experience in this church but I can bet each one of us have a good experience from our time there . Let's all try to put a smile and havea laugh about then.

Here's one of mine. I mind the great laughs us Falkirk kids had up in Muiravanside. Playing rounders and sausage sizzles. I mind one evenning the fog coming down quick and the scarey walk through the woods to the minibus.But I do mind we all couldn't stop laughing doing this. So what's everyone else's good memories?