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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: Deprogrammed0110 ()
Date: October 24, 2024 06:32AM

Here is a recent in depth documentary on the “ Satanist False Preachers “. So many of these preachers/ false healers were held up as glorious examples, that we should aspire to in KCF. I remember doing homework studying them .As you watch them performing, check out the Masonic hand-signs they use. The most basic one, is the index finger pointing upwards. Also the OK sign which is 666, there are others like the “ M “ symbol = mason. Mr Spock, in Star Trek makes the same sign although it means something different. Masonic hand-signs signs are searchable on google. I was freaked out when I watched Kathryn Kuhlemans hand-signs, I noticed the weird energy she exuded back in the day, however I was told by KCF she was a wonderful woman of God. I find her upheld index finger hand-sign aggressive and threatening. Once you see this, you can’t unsee it.

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: Deprogrammed0110 ()
Date: February 21, 2025 08:11PM

Here is a documentary made by Matt Redman about the abuses that went on in Soul Survivor historically. The parallels between the mental abuse that went on in KCF are striking, apart from the sexual abuse, which to my knowledge did not occur at KCF. However many people have been damaged irrevocably, completely lost their faith in God and shunned for speaking up. KCF brushed these heinous abuses under the carpet. This documentary describes what has to be done to recover from narcissistic abuse. So many of you knew the truth, but remained silent and continued to act like nothing was wrong. You valued your position in leadership more than protecting the sheep, and you remain in leadership today. I am not here to cast judgement upon you, as only God knows your hearts. But I am here to say “ Let there be light”, and may the truth be revealed. May the people who still suffer today from the trauma caused by the leaders of this fellowship, find healing and hope for what they endured.

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: KirkbyFurby ()
Date: February 23, 2025 02:41PM

Sexual abuse of children happened at this church. Much like the Church of England’s scandals, the leadership handled it “in house” and then covered it up. There has never been an admission of wrongdoing, no accountability for those who enabled or concealed these crimes, and no apology to the survivors who were blamed, shamed, and cast aside.

The church continues to dismiss those who speak out as “bitter ex-members,” but bitterness has nothing to do with it. People are still living with the trauma of what happened, and the refusal to acknowledge the truth only deepens that harm. If the church had truly changed, there would be transparency, accountability, and a willingness to make amends. But there has been none of that.

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: KirkbyFurby ()
Date: March 02, 2025 02:51PM

I see that this post has had just under a thousand views in the last week and yet there’s been no response. I have to say the silence is deafening.

This is not just gossip or some petty grievance. This is about the sexual abuse of children and the church’s decision to cover it up rather than protect the vulnerable. It’s about the ongoing trauma suffered by survivors who were blamed, shamed, and cast aside. And it’s about the absolute refusal of the church to take any real accountability or offer any meaningful apology.

For a community that claims to have undergone a “revival of love,” where is the love for those who were harmed? Where is the courage to confront wrongdoing and stand with those who are still living with the consequences of these failures?

The people of this church have prophesied physical revival and when those prophecies didn’t come to pass they covered them up with new prophecies about a revival of love. But there is no real love without truth. There is no real love without justice. If this church is truly changed, it should be able to face its own history with honesty and humility.

If you’re reading this and you’re staying silent — why?

Martin Luther King said "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: I can see ()
Date: March 02, 2025 09:01PM

Hi deprogammed they were good links. Why people believe in these imposters is baffling. Why oh why don't these people with healing ministries go to the hospitals and children's wards,why....
A good channel on youtube is the deconstruction zone give it a watch.
Its all nonsense.

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: KirkbyFurby ()
Date: March 10, 2025 05:14PM

Does anyone else find it strange that when a serious issue like the covering up of child abuse comes up, it gets… covered up here too? Ignored? Wasn’t this forum set up to warn people about the abuses of this church, support those who’ve been harmed, and challenge the institution itself?

If your priority is theological debate, there are plenty of other places for that. But if this forum is becoming a space where discussions of real harm keep getting buried, maybe it’s worth asking why, and who that really serves.

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: KirkbyFurby ()
Date: March 25, 2025 02:26PM

It’s been a month since I first spoke up here about the sexual abuse of children at this church and the cover-up that followed. In that time, there has been no response.

I can’t say I’m surprised. Silence is familiar. It’s what survivors faced when they tried to speak out. It’s what the leadership relied on to protect themselves instead of protecting the vulnerable. And it seems it’s still what people choose when confronted with uncomfortable truths.

I’m not here to argue or to convince anyone of what they already know deep down. The facts remain, whether people acknowledge them or not. The abuse happened. The cover-up happened. The harm continues. And refusing to face that doesn’t make it go away.

If this forum was truly meant to stand against the abuses of this church, then ask yourselves why the most serious abuses are the ones that go ignored. Ask yourselves what it means to create a space for accountability, then turn away when the reality becomes too difficult.

A church that continues to look away cannot claim to have changed.

For the survivors, the silence isn’t neutral. It’s a reminder that their suffering is inconvenient. That their truth is something people would rather not face. But ignoring the truth doesn’t erase it.

I’ve said what I came to say. I hope, in time, this community will find the courage to listen.

To those who are still carrying the weight of what happened: I see you. You are not alone.

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: KirkbyFurby ()
Date: April 05, 2025 07:15PM

Justin Welby’s recent comments offer a stark but important contrast — and a reminder that it is possible for church leaders to speak plainly about abuse. (Link here for those who want to read).

Something Welby said also highlights one of the more insidious abuses perpetrated at KCF. "I have never, ever said to a survivor, ‘you must forgive’, because that is their sovereign, absolute individual choice. Everyone wants to be forgiven, but to demand forgiveness is to abuse again.”

At KCF, survivors were not just encouraged to forgive - they were instructed to, or else face spiritual and social consequences. Those who spoke up were labelled ‘bitter’ or ‘unforgiving’ - a tactic used to silence them. This is not forgiveness freely given - it is forgiveness coerced, demanded by those unwilling to face the consequences of their actions.

A common theme in Christianity is how “forgiveness had been one of the factors which has allowed perpetrators of sexual abuse in the Church to evade justice over the last few decades. We have seen time and again dangerous perpetrators being found out and eventually forgiven and brought back into the Church.”

This has become a commonly recognised behaviour in churches who engage on some self reflection - there is a tendency to forgive the abuser whilst the abused are ignored. You can read about it here but I'll end with a quote from the article itself -

"Unlike an angry mob, the Christian mob exerts its rule not by condemning the perpetrator, but by letting the perpetrator off the hook. But by doing so, the Christian mob is still playing judge and jury, and this allows them to take justice into their own hands. It’s no wonder then, why mob forgiveness only hinders justice and hurts victims. When Christians minimize wrongdoing, when they offer more grace to the perpetrator than to the victims, and when they collectively forgive someone who has never even hurt them in the first place, forgiveness becomes just another form of abuse."

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Re: Kirkby Christian Fellowship
Posted by: KirkbyFurby ()
Date: April 28, 2025 04:25PM

This past weekend brought yet another stark reminder that those who have been abused live with it every single day. Abuse isn’t something you “move on” from easily - it leaves a mark that shapes the rest of your life.

Tragically, those lives are often cut short. Virginia Giuffre, who fought so hard to be heard, recently took her own life after years of living with the consequences of abuse and being silenced. Her death is not an isolated tragedy. It’s a reminder that trauma unattended and injustice ignored can be lethal.

The continued silence from this church, from this community, is not neutral. It is language. It speaks loud and clear.

To continue doing nothing in the face of harm adds to the harm.
To continue standing with crossed arms, self-righteous, accusing others of “unforgiveness,” is further abuse.

Forgiveness is often spoken of as if it is simple, easy, or owed. But real forgiveness is not demanded; it is offered freely - and it cannot be forced. Without acknowledgement, without apology, without justice, forgiveness becomes not a healing act but a weapon used against the wounded.

You cannot demand someone to forgive while refusing to even admit what was done to them. You cannot expect healing while denying the truth. Without genuine repentance, forgiveness becomes little more than another form of gaslighting — another way to silence the survivor rather than to honor their pain.

When the institution protects itself, and those within it choose comfort over confronting injustice, they are not just bystanders - they are participants.

It doesn’t have to be this way. True change is still possible. But it requires the courage to listen, to acknowledge, and to act.

Until then, every day of silence is a day of siding with the wrong side.

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