Who first exposed the fact that Styles was a satanist/vampire?

Notice also that the typical cryonics cranks, ignore Robert Ettinger's call for PROOF of the ridiculous and fraudulent claims made on the EUCRIO website, and instead start distracting, talking about religion.

Why don't they address the obvious fraud on the EUCRIO website, with their deceptive nonsense about their staffing?

On top of this, some in cryonics are concerned about Satanism and Vampirism.

Why aren't they concerned with the Church of Venturism, which is the defacto Church of Cryonics?
What's the difference?

Stoic wote "I wouldn't put Ettinger and Styles into the same category of character, and
am anyway content to be wormfood myself one day."

Being a bit pedantic I feel I ought to point out that you could be buried below the level
at which worms operate, it's the bacteria that'll get you I think.....

As to the church of Venturism maybe the difference is Satanism, course I don't know
and am often wrong.
There is a link to "The Venturists" on the CI site, (under links) but not as a church as such.

There is still a link to EUCRIO in the same section so I guess it hasn't been removed
after all, WTF goes on at these organizations?
A person might get the impression that they can't be trusted.

Styles was first unmasked by one of his buddies who has left the cult after being abused by Styles and George C Smith - the person who i refer to as G.

This was all over the Imminst forum in the summer but the ToV members cleaned the information and discredited G as much as possible so it didnt stick.

I contacted G. about 2 months ago and after he realised we had similar causes he sent me photo evidence and further information which on checking seemed true so i posted up on my site.

I think because there is a few of us saying the same thing - that FINALLY its being taken seriously and some of the more "level-headed" Cryonicists are trying to clean up I think.

Who knows how far they will go - prehaps they will also have a look at the Venturists if people keep making a noise.

Some cryonicists want regulation and are not into the more whacky cult stuff - they just want to be frozen when they die. The way the (cryonics) industry is at the moment
is not what they wanted - remember theirs a lot of money at stake. Cryonicists who have paid upfront will feel (and rightly so) that they are shareholders - the original ethic of cryonics was very
hippyish, a DIY concept - believers getting together to make things happen. I don't think back in the day they all got together and said lets do a con. I think that came later as certain people realised there was big money to be made.



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your right as well it hasn;t been taken down YET - [www.cryonics.org]

Hmm maybe Ettingers being lied to as well!

it's the bacteria that'll get you I think.....

Being a bit pedantic myself, I'm glad to learn something new. I suppose that the bacteria get us all in the end, the reason for all those cryoprotective fluids (TM) being invented left, right and centre --and being promoted so aggressively by their inventors to stake a claim in the market.

It's gone this morning Richie, seems you have to post here to get something done!
I'd bet that if it hadn't been highlighted here it would still be up.
What an outfit.

In fact, the Church of Venturism is/was a church, they just changed the name to Society for propaganda purposes.
They want to use the religious impulses in people for immortality, as marketing.
Mike Perry and others are their inner circle High Priests.

As well, if you start your own Church, you can get away with not paying taxes.

The reason they are not throwing a fit, as no one knows what the Church Of Venturism is about.
But Church of Satan, that is bad PR for Cryonics Inc.

Search Google for: "church of venturism"


This file, seems to say the Church of Venturism doesn't even have a working mailbox address??

And wow, MARK PLUS was/is the President/CEO of the Church of Venturism!
The holy trinity of cryonic Venturism...David Pizer, Mike Perry, Mark Plus.

Someone should dig up the current paperwork on this Society of Venturism, or whatever they are calling it this year.
(they've learned to keep changing the names of the revoked entities..an old trick).

------------------------------------

[starpas.cc.state.az.us]

CHANGED FROM CHURCH OF VENTURISM, INCORPORATED 08/15/1990

File Number: -0187369-5
Corp. Name: SOCIETY FOR VENTURISM, INCORPORATED

Domestic Address UNDELIVERABLE DOMESTIC ADDRESS
---- W DUNLAP
PHOENIX, AZ 85021

Statutory Agent Information Agent Name: DAVID PIZER

Agent Address:
UNDELIVERABLE AGENT ADDRESS
----W DUNLAP
PHOENIX, AZ 85021
Agent Status: APPOINTED 01/18/1994
Agent Last Updated:

Additional Corporate Information Business Type: OTHER Corporation Type: NON-PROFIT
Incorporation Date: 07/11/1986 Corporate Life Period: PERPETUAL
Domicile: ARIZONA County: YAVAPAI
Approval Date: 07/15/1986 Original Publish Date: 11/19/1986
Status: REVOKED-FILE ANNUAL REPORT Status Date: 01/10/1997

MARK PLUS
PRESIDENT/CEO
-----HWY 2
PO BOX 458
WRIGHTWOOD,CA 92397
Date of Taking Office: 05/25/1993

MIKE PERRY
SECRETARY
PHOENIX,AZ
Last Updated: 01/20/1996

-----------------------------------------------

I've been looking at the CI site again,

Under Links "Cryonics Related Discussion groups"

There's no mention of the Cult Education Forum,
ain't that shame?