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Here is Ole's recent comments about Islam: He says, “… I protect Christianity every day, especially because I see a big attack from Islam, a great, great danger from Islam… Nobody has ruined as much for us as the Muslims. They destroyed the Silk Road, they destroyed the whole of northern India, and historically they have cost us millions and millions and millions of people. Simply because they were Buddhists.”
- this reads like a whining child, "they did it, they ruinied it for us, and just because we are buddhists" (buddhists who incidentally believe they are they champions of christianity?!?!).
- it is easy enough to do a wikipedia search and read about how the tibetan buddhists allied themselves with various political powers - the mongol horde, the haan dynasty, and even the turks. in fact the original tibetans were bon-po and they were persecuted by power hungry buddhists using some very astute political manoevering.
- moreover, this is a very backward looking view, apportioning blame using this "book-keeping" system ("they have cost us...."), and that their motivation was not economic or territorial gain, but simply because they are different. (Ole cleverly projects his own petty motivations onto them and then uses this to knock them!?!?).
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"To say it plainly, it’s really embarrassing that people — after 2,000 years of development towards freedom here in Europe — cannot comprehend their potential, don’t trust themselves, or are so badly disabled in childhood that they cast away their free will and enslave themselves under a totalitarian and fascist system. Surely, it’s pure fascism to subordinate oneself to other people in that way — no matter if it’s under a deity dictating what to do, a prophet, Hitler or Stalin. It’s always the same. Whenever you deny people their freedom of choice and self-determination, you reduce them to inferior beings."
- 2,000 years of development - beginning with the roman empire and crucifixion of the "messiah", then tribal warfare, pagan child sacrifice, the dictatorship of the catholic church, the crusades, the invasion and enslavement of the americas and africa, the exploitation and desecration of the natural world, and countless barbaric wars in a struggle for power which resulted in the development and use of nuclear weapons...
The idea of "progress" and "freedom" the Ole puts forward is incredibly naive!
- interestingly he mentions Hitler and Stalin, it would seem that the list of european christian dictators is a lot longer than the equivalent for Islam.
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In other words, he seems to have an historical grudge and also a belief that European culture is threatened by the Muslim religion. Watching what is going on in Iran these days and the ongoing influence of organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas and promoters of a religion based legal system it is easy to see how these groups are completely contrary to European values. But is the average Muslim community really that easily influenced by those kind of groups, or aligned that way in respect to their values? It is generally not so in North America, as far as I can tell, but Ole thinks it is in Europe.
He seems to think that political correctness and various kind of cowardice, or whatever, is masking the truth. I wonder if there are any thoughtful Europeans reading this that have anything to say about that. Do some Europeans, especially eastern Europeans see Islam as a religious version of communism?
hmm, that is an interesting idea, but for me, at least the ideals of communism are an equality for all, even if that has never translated very well into reality. On the other hand, the one country who seems to give a voice to right-wing fascism these days is Denmark - and interestingly enough, some of those extreme right-wing politicians are also members of DWB.
Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2010 03:58AM by suenam.