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I receive many similar letters, both from foreign members of the Chaitanya Mission and from Polish ones. In addition, the same member of the Chaitanya Mission (Honey Bees <honeyimhome06@gmail.com>) sends me various porn sites, has set up an account on a site where you can order the services of prostitutes. Many people threaten me with death, and the death of my family, my wife, or beating me. I understand that this is just a form of love they show me, they just can't express it any other way. You can threaten and it is not an insult according to these members of the Chaitanya Mission, this behavior is not aggressive, but philosophical discussion and mutual enlightenment is an insult.

Balakhilya das wrote:

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Quote: "The very idea of them inviting people over shows that they think they have something better, that what we get through A.C. Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa Prabhupada and Tusta Krishna dasa is not enough, that we lack opportunities, knowledge, proper care and guidance, proper training, etc. They want to help us, they want to open our eyes. This is no doubt offensive to Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa Prabhupada and our parampara."

The symptoms - looking at the correspondence - show actually the lack of proper care and guidance, proper training, etc.

It is consistent if a few years later they "hosted" a sanyasin, the secretary of the WVA, in placec in a corridor on a retreat. Then they were supposed to improve, but the first word, the first gesture is always important.



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The goverment puts you in jail if you don’t pay taxes and obey.
The gods put you in a reincarceration jail if you do not worship, love and accept your eternal slavery (servitude is more appealing).
Who is butler? An amazing tax collector for the gods.
A tyrant who keeps you in your place as a slave.
He makes you love your slavery and pushes you to offer your soul on a golden platter.
Do you think he is hated by the gods?
I would say he is possibly adored, even by the higher authorities for doing such an amazing job.
Who is protecting his criminal ass?
Wake up people and smell the very stinky truth.
Everything is very clear in all scriptures.
The choice is ours. Do we embrace slavery or do we reject it.
But rejection of spiritual slavery is supposed to make us end up in hell or back into a material body. A body that can go as low as a worm in stool.
It is only FEAR that pushes one to accept such non sense.
Ultimately every person must come to their own realization.
Do you accept such abusive higher authorities or do you reject them at the cost of being called a demon, atheist, fallen angel…
We all have the same free will.
All those high spiritual values such as lower than piss, are meant to brainwash us into accpeting abuse.
To love our abusers and let them stay in our lives like a tumor. Forgive, forget. Get screwed over again and repeat.
The soul does not put up with that shit.
Never think that the soul enjoys this non sense.
The soul is not masochistic.
But noone will ever be able to uncover their true identity because you rely on scripture to tell you who you are.
Until one accepts to be a dog handled by a lunatic like butler, all is lost.
They are all betas and oemgas under the rule of a ruthless unstable Alpha.
And this is what they call spiritual life.
Do not forget your anti nausea pill when you remember the days you relished being put in the dog house by butler.
It was meant to bring you closer to krishna.

Culthusiast Wrote:
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> Balakhilya das wrote:
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...This is no doubt
> offensive to Srila Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa
> Prabhupada and our parampara."

Offensive to Paramahamsa with wife doing business of course. To Parampara where Narada Muni did not initiate woman but Siddhaswarupa Dasa did.

Truth wins Wrote:
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> The gods put you in a reincarceration jail if you
> do not worship, love and accept your eternal
> slavery (servitude is more appealing).

Just two rivers. Vaitarani and Viraja...

> But noone will ever be able to uncover their true
> identity because you rely on scripture to tell you
> who you are.

Scriptures that tell you to ask questions. They do not like to answer questions - those for "guru". Especially tricky questions - Midgett/Balakhilya das. The guy full of knowledge, perfectly trained cannot face tricky questions...



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Anyone here remember when CB was frantically searching world-wide for the perfect "policeman" to monitor his crazy health mandates? 1987? 88?

Someone to make sure the kitchen staff always wore their masks correctly... to check the expiry date on the milk ... to make sure the kitchen staff do not joke around and have fun in the kitchen... Ad nauseam, ad nauseam ... Keep the vibrations low ... living in constant fear?

I doubt if he ever found the right person. No doubt he has been complaining constantly about this for the last few decades?

AND NOW... just for laughs, the rapper is back!...

Take multiple multiple vaccines, said he
Forget your God-given immunity
Here, take one! take two! take three!
Developed by a Doc with a Ph.D
Who knows what's best for you and me

Take multiple multiple vaccines, said he
Forget what Krishna says in verse 23
"I Am The Healing Herb's - just not for me
We need the juice from the pharmacy
They know what's best for you and me

Take multiple multiple vaccines, said he
Seems more now like medical tyranny
Global controllers want de-population?
Or a global experiment in sterilization?
However, living in FEAR of contamination
Became this guru's main infatuation

You know. I have seen behind the veil of illusion.
It is not for the faint at heart. Your whole world gets shattered.
Including the sweet flowery words of any scriptures.
I can assure you that this reality goes 10000000 times deeper than what the vedas tell us.
It is not just because it has fallen into the hands of some surfer dudes who are unqualified.
Even the Narayana Maharaja more advanced teachings that come across as Korean to our neophite SoI students ears, do not cover the deep scifi nature of this reality.
No damn scripture can tell you who you are. This is something one must realize themselves.
And it is not as easy as chanting 30 rounds a day and going as low as a straw.
Getting chastized and criticized 50 times a day. Crying tears of fear and love.
These are all illusions.
No matter how many mystical stuff you experience. The so called krishna’s arrangments, the picture similing at you, the kundalini rising, the dreams…
It is still just an illusion.
As I said it a hundred times, NOONE knows the truth. The truth s hidden from us.
But most buy the truth that scripture gives them.
Pick one. Bible, Koran, Gita…
These are all safe shelters.
As I said it, when the veil lifts, your whole reality crumbles.
But at the same time noone and nothing can fool you anymore.
Because your vision is very clear.
You see everything and everyone for who they truly are.
None of this bliss BS and supernatural stuff can make you fall into the hole anymore.
Those ultra mind blowing synchronicities…
All the things that keep devotees slaves can no longer hold you in a prison of fake love.
You will be free. But you will be on your own.
Because in this reality most are united via their beliefs.
If you have nos specific beliefs, you have no tribe.
SoI is just a universe on its own. And we have been actors in that universe.
Unfortunately the director is a lunatic and everybody must act according to his mental illnesses.
Imagine the tragedy of seeing such a person as jesus of our times.
I myself was such a deluded ass. So am not going to put others down.
What an aboslute farce if such a person is truly the savior of humanity.
The one who will get you to an unkown imaginary destination called kirshna loka.
And what justifies this firm beliefs?
ONLY emotions and the mystical/supernatural experiences.
This is the only thing that drives and has driven devotees.
This is what makes it so that noone will ever asks any questions and just rely upon what they cannot explain.
Krishna consciousness is a very tricky program. I do not blame those who still hold on.
Because it will hold on to you and make you doubt for the rest of your life.
We will keep blaming butler for all the mess and make him responsible for all the shit.
Even if one follows bhakti yoga soleley in an atmosphere of love, they will still never uncover who they truly are.
But accept that they are an eternal servant. And that the only way out of this prison is to embrave that slavery.
I know it all looks very romantic and sweet but it is as twisted AF.
Unfortunately if that theory sounds very amazing, I say keep believing in it.
Sweet dreams!

just-googling Wrote:
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> Take multiple multiple vaccines, said he
> Forget your God-given immunity
> Here, take one! take two! take three!
> Developed by a Doc with a Ph.D
> Who knows what's best for you and me
>
> Take multiple multiple vaccines, said he
> Forget what Krishna says in verse 23
> "I Am The Healing Herb's - just not for me
> We need the juice from the pharmacy
> They know what's best for you and me
>
> Take multiple multiple vaccines, said he
> Seems more now like medical tyranny
> Global controllers want de-population?
> Or a global experiment in sterilization?
> However, living in FEAR of contamination
> Became this guru's main infatuation


Run like a herd of sheep, yes, we
in sheep minds sounds this poetry
Take multiple multiple vaccines, said he
Here, take one! take two! take three!

We take three? We take four
all our bodies on the floor
don't forget to close the door
kidneys longer work no more

Truth wins Wrote:
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> I can assure you that this reality goes 10000000

30 million "demigods", quantum convolutions, reduction, "gross matter", 3 forces, wrapped dimensions. It is clear



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“In a religious cult, the leader is perceived as a deity who is always divinely right, and the devotee, always on the verge of being sinfully wrong, comes to live for the sole purpose of pleasing and avoiding displeasing the guru/god. The leader's displeasure comes to mean for the member that he is unworthy, monstrously defective, and, therefore, dispensable. The member has been conditioned to believe that loss of the leader's "grace" is equivalent to loss of any value, goodness, or rightness of the self. As the member becomes more deeply involved, his anxiety about remaining a member in good standing increases”.


“In fact, the cult leader does not escape dependency. Instead, he (and also, in many cases, she) comes to depend on his followers to worship and adore him, to reflect his narcissistic delusion of perfection to him as does the mirror to the Evil Queen in the tale of Snow White. One of the ways in which this perversion of dependency is often enacted can be observed when the cult leader claims that because he needs nothing, he is entitled to everything. Thus, cult leaders claiming to be pure and perfect, without any need or attachment, use manic defenses to rationalize and justify their dependence on extravagant and grandiose trappings such as thrones, fleets of Rolls Royces, and the trust funds of their wealthy followers”.


Daniel Shaw

According to mr Iskcon hare krishna expert this is what I do on this forum.


Truth wins, I have to be blunt with you now:

I really wish you would not ramble all over this thread the way you ramble all over the Butler thread. I've been watching you do that for a long time, and I wish you would not do that here.


The blunt truth is I do not give one single damn.
After years of walking on eggshells at SoI, being liked is the last thing I care about.
I have endured as much hatred and attacks on cult education as I have endured abuse at SOI.
Just beware that this forum is full of wounded people. Watch your language.
No need to attack. Talk to Rick or do not engage.
You never know how much a person has been damaged by a cult.

Truth wins Wrote:
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> Truth wins, I have to be blunt with you now:
>
> I really wish you would not ramble all over this
> thread the way you ramble all over the Butler
> thread. I've been watching you do that for a long
> time, and I wish you would not do that here.
>
>
> The blunt truth is I do not give one single damn.
> After years of walking on eggshells at SoI, being
> liked is the last thing I care about.

Could the expert speak on Parampara, ISKCON and Narada Muni not initiating women?

Do not forget that mental illness and narcissism is only a prviledge given to the Acrayas of the Hare Krishna movement and offshoots.
They are the only ones who can act as they wish and have their feet kissed and washed.
The rest of us lowly souls must watch very carefully what we say and how we act.
Or else the devotee police will soon knock on your door.
Make sure they shame and ban you for 10 years.
However Rick is not that fanatical person.
I think that devotees only accept dysfunction within their own institutions.
They are so used to the robotic answers and speech that those who think outside of the box aee demons.
One can never go deeper than the vedas.
They cannot even phatom that reality is more complex than sciepture.
However you are forced to stay in their limited sand box or else you will be seen as a danger.
The programmed minds glitches and goes nuts like the robots in movies who are exposed to water.