Tremendous posts everyone! Here are some of my responses.
Misanthropic cult leader -> creates false fears and a skewed perception of reality in followers -> builds a survivalist compound and other percs for self and elite followers -> gets the
plebeian followers to support self by promising a divine after life with g0d and guru.
Rama’s DEATH CULT post:
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RamaA new video on youtube featuring Chris Butler
telling his followers that he envisions a nuclear
fire that burns everything away, and that the only
thing left is "Krishna, Gurudeva, Krishna's
names."
The Chris Butler cult is a DEATH CULT. My mother
Robyn "Radhakunda Dasi" Ranson used to tell us to
take our one chance to serve Chris Butler with
this life, telling us to sacrifice our entire life
in Chris Butler's service for the prize of
liberation from this hellish world...
Mind controllers, pick up your game! You are
slippin', and the ones that slip through the
cracks are the ones who will bring you down.
Apocalyptic Death Cult Despises Self Improvement by Chris Butler Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa
I remember a video on
Flash's blog (?) of Acharya das* (seems to be Butler’s #1 man at the moment) talking about something apocalyptic and saying not to worry because they will be taking care of people. I am wondering if the huge real estate development and compound in New Zealand is one of the cult’s prepper BOL (bug out location/retreats) when the SHTF (shit hits the fan)?
Given Chris Butler Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Prabhupad’s history of instilling fears regarding mega disasters beginning with AC Bhaktivedanta’s prediction that WW3 would start with a war between India and Pakistan. This was in the early 1970’s. When it didn’t happen, they attributed it to their magical chanting. My source remembers a small gathering with Butler in Hawaii where he was seriously telling the group that World War 3 was coming. He told them that they will be protected by chanting and serving guru. How convenient for him. The effect was profound and immediate. Followers became much more serious about working for "Siddha" after that.
Since that time, Chris Butler Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Prabhupad has manipulated his followers with alarmist warnings every decade; the Y2K end of the world, the Aids epidemic, the Bird Flu, and other world catastrophes. His recent doomsday predictions are being kept from the public as they frantically try to recruit "true believers" with their flowery "eat, pray, love" yoga traps. Yes, people are being carefully vetted.* And there are a lot of real and imaginary conspiracies upon which to monopolize right now.
Who wants to be “left behind” when your guru (whose word you believe to be infallible) says the world is coming to an end? Wouldn’t you be motivated to do all you can to get in good with God's representative to reserve your place (at a high cost) in the compound?
See also Flash's Blog for more info and history on land escapades and projects in New ZealandQuote
dharmabum
If ever, people still stick in there has got nothing to do with God or faith, let alone love. They are there for their selfish reasons. Some benefit from the labors of others and the rank and file simply enjoy the brand or sense of social belonging.
Here's the main thing about the cult of Butler. They have never been concerned about humanity or people suffering. The goal is to be superior to the karmis and invest in the
afterlife with guru and Krishna. This is evidenced by the
audio clip posted by Rama. There are other examples of Butler's
misanthropy. In other lectures he has put down the elderly, a woman concerned about her sick baby, and so on.
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Chris Butler Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa
I visualize the entire landscape blown away, burned away in the fire and the only thing that is left is Krishna, gurudev."
Butler's conclusion? Everyone who does not serve him is selfish and miserable.
Listen to the tone of his voice (2:08). This guy is so smug it makes me vomit.
Re VEILED DEATH THREAT:
Rama, you are absolutely correct to expose that tricky, not-so-veiled death threat. It is actually very scary. If this person is hiding out from the cult, why don't they help expose it?!
Everything can turn on a dime - at a moments notice; a crazed follower or a severe threat to the cult's agenda can change the modus operandi of a person or organization. All it would take is one order, suggestion, wink, nod from Butler and it could happen. Of course Butler would never take the fall. Making it public protects you. Good move. I’d like to see it up on your blog too.
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Rama
I received this message from Gayle Hedge
on Facebook with no further communication despite me asking many questions
"Why dont you cut ties to the cult and change your name?? I am in hiding myself and all you will get for not shutting up is a bullet to the head. Your story is told, now go live a wonder full life, b4 its too late. Bowler, Gabbard, and their body guards are focusing on buying up new zealand under Trust Names and multi names. They wont be stopped. To many top men are playing the property market game and everyone has a price"
For the record, for my protection I will make this public.
See Rama's excellent critical blog about Chris Butler Jagad Guru SiddhaswarupanandaYou Tube Channel Review of Chris Butler Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda's CultEigener Herr, your Open Letter to My Parents Guru was excellent!I highly recommend Eigener Herr’s YouTube Channel videos exposing Chris Butler Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda PrabhupadJust Googling and Vox ~ thanks for the musical and poetic comic relief!
*Acharya Das has many You Tube videos and was recently the Keynote Speaker at the Bhakti Yoga Shack retreat on Kauai last summer. The people who run this Butler cult recruitment center were also at Tulsi Gabbard's wedding (Go Pal and Radha Kauai). That was an impossible invite unless you are a Butler elite or political crony.