Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: November 13, 2015 09:35AM

Dear Just Googling: !!!!!! YES!

Even as we speak, Mr. Butler has probably made his wishes known to one and all-
Vote for:
BUSH
BUSH
BUSH

Just like in 2000.

And what about those $300 Eddie Bauer jackets, being packed up in AZ and shipped to HI, courtesy of the child laborers- oh I mean the cult kids who were doing devotional service? Back in the day, you could always spot a cult kid- they always looked like little ragamuffins.....
But Way Looney and Butler sure looked spiffy, didn’t they?

Have you any idea, dear Readers, how many hundreds, nay thousands of Way Looney Yoga mats they packaged and shipped off?

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: November 14, 2015 01:38PM

The Baguio Boys School Blog "we were there" is back, with new articles!

http://baguiobrahmacharislive.blogspot.com/2015/11/why-blog-went-private-for-some-time.html?m=1

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: November 14, 2015 01:39PM

Googling, great to see you in full force!

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Baguio Bramacharis LIVE
Date: November 15, 2015 07:21AM

The resurfacing of this blog is absolutely monumental.

I knew Ian "Hari Das" Koviak from Maui, and I travelled to the Philippines with him and my little brother when I went to that school in Baguio. Ian was the seasoned veteran returning to the school, showing us the ropes in Manila during our week long stay in "Quarantine" before heading to the boys school.

That week in Manila was one of the coolest experiences, and Ian was central to narrating my experience during that time.

He explained the celebrity status of any white person on the Manila streets, and that flocks of kids will chase you yelling "hey, Joe!"
We visited the manila Mall, the run down and hellish Manila Zoo, mountains of trash with whole villages of rat people living in caves in the trash.

The picture perfect drive to Baguio city. The value I saw in that trip gave way once we reached the Baguio boys school run at that time by Chris Butler devoted disciple Allan "Acharya" Tibby.

I reached that Baguio school and quickly realized I had to get myself out of there. I lasted one week, other kids were advising me just to go home saying "You live on Maui and you have a Super Nintendo? Why are you even here? I would just go home if I was you." I am glad I heeded that advice.

Allan Tibby turned out to be the man who called shots at the cult run funeral for my father Allan "Acharya" Ranson. Allan Tibby presided over my Dad's funeral and made sure that I did not attend. My cousin thought that he seemed like the big shot cult leader himself.

To quote my Kiwi cousin when I informed her they are all cult members from my dad's funeral who are tied to international drug running and money laundering...

"They are out of it, eh!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ljHI9zKTp4

My cousin Bianca Ranson giving a TEDx talk, she is the best, always so supportive.

Allan Tibby may not be the head of the cult, but he is a high ranking captain in the organized criminal syndicate of the Chris Butler International money laundering mafia/cult/"Hinduism" (yeah right!) who enjoys a Tusta Krishna Das level of "Almost as pure as Chris Butler" and he is one of the very few allowed to lecture within the cult, as evidenced by the Science of Identity youtube channel.

Only Tusta Krishna Das and Chris Butler were allowed to disseminate lectures and cult philosophy.

Ian Koviak has reinstated the long private blog, but he has added two new articles which are absolutely amazing.

Ian has grown and lived and evolved a lot well evident in his new articles. He explains why he shut his blog down, and why he started it back up again.

To quote a few choice excerpts from this article:

http://baguiobrahmacharislive.blogspot.com/2015/11/why-blog-went-private-for-some-time.html?m=1

" I'm all about exposing the bullshit. The PI school was bullshit. It was an attempt by a self-involved, brainwashing cult leader to indoctrinate a generation of kids, control them, and secure them in his service and use them to his ends."


"Since starting this site, I discovered more things about the school: [flashlightonroaches.wordpress.com]. Sites like this are emotional landmines. Unlike myself, many of these boys that went to school there were born into these cult and have deep historic ties to key people and moments in the evolution of the cult. The saw and knew much more. There was some context for their reactionary angst and fury and ultimately confusion. Naturally, in their late teens they were eventually exposed to the "real" world. For some time they struggled with their beliefs, emotions and eventually the forming of their own ideas about life. The shedding of the cult mentality took a very long time and shitloads of angst, discipline, energy and re-wiring of old belief systems. Hats off. To say the least."

His second new article is just as good and hard hitting, breaking down the entire history of Hinduism, the cultural context and the roots of the Bhakti Yoga worship traditions. It is much in the style of the amazing

http://halfemptyacamana.wordpress.com

Ian's new article: The Westernization of an Indian Heritage: A Flavorless Dhal

http://baguiobrahmacharislive.blogspot.com/2015/11/westernization-of-indian-heritage.html?m=1

Everybody, please dive into this stuff, it is amazing!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: November 15, 2015 02:37PM

Hi Rama
I did indeed read the latest postings by Ian.
I was pleased to see that he is still growing, questioning and opening himself up to deep introspection without fear!
That is very important for the healing that is taking place within him.
He may not have put it into words or perhaps the idea has not yet formulated, but he is a survivor as are you and Eigenerherr.

That which did not break you has made you stronger.

Butler and Co be damned.

Ian, you are not alone.
We hear you and we stand with you.

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Posted by: dharmabum ()
Date: November 15, 2015 09:43PM

Tulsi 101

Her Royal Hinduness Tulsi Gabbard is fond of spewing emotional rhetoric. Lest the impressionable masses, the military, the media and the entertainment world get sucked further into believing her pointless and delusional politics, here’s a primer to help understand Tulsi. It appears complicated, but it is not. All the people need to know are her upbringing and foundational belief.

First, her guru and the Science of Identity Foundation; Jagad Guru Chris Butler Siddhaswarupananda Goswami Obi-wan Kenobi, son of a prominent Molokai doctor, Willis Butler, left ISKCON, the Hare Krishnas in the early 70s, to found his separate cult. Yes, it is a cult, by practice and by definition. Before he joined ISKCON, he was already a Big Guy (a self-proclaimed Spiritual Master) to many disciples. By becoming an initiated disciple of a “bona fide” spiritual master, that is A.C. Bhaktivedanta, founder of ISKCON, believed to be in the disciplic line of spiritual masters of Vaishnava Hinduism tradition, sort of, legitimized his claim and the franchise.

Second, her parents — Mike and Carol Gabbard, are among the (hardcore) royalties in the cult. By practice, Tulsi and her siblings; and other children of devotees were sent to Philippines’ boarding schools (still practiced). There, they are educated (or indoctrinated) during formative years (usually at ages between 12 to 17), in the care of senior disciples to live and learn about the self-styled practice loosely based on Hinduism; and to free parents from the burden of care to better serve the guru.

Finally, the politics; The IGG or Independents for Godly Government (the handle alone says it all) was formed in 1976, (Guru Butler's first display of political ambition) fielded devotee candidates for political office. They failed overall but learned some political fine-tuning lessons that proved invaluable and culminated into Tulsi’s successful campaign and candidacy, 30 years later.

IGG’s fundamentals:

1. Core belief – society is rotten to the core (ungodly).
2. Objective – as devotees they have a moral responsibility to save humanity from itself.
3. Solution – develop the love for God (ultimate).
4. Method – Chant the Holy Names (mantras).
5. Dogma - Acquire pure knowledge, that is “you are not the body” (hence, The Science of Identity).
6. Source – From a bona fide spiritual master, the sole representative of God on Earth, a genuine lover of God, the “pure” spirit soul, the Jagad Guru (Universal Teacher) or for short, “full” surrender to Chris Butler.

While it is true that DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz fumbled big time in a deliberate muzzling of busy body Tulsi, the whole thing is just a smokescreen strategized by Tulsi or the puppet master. Her blatant disregard for party discipline; non-stop criticism of Obama and Hillary, while she engages in her jingoism; and the constant use (manipulation) of the mainstream news media. To dish out dirty laundry into the open and spew specious politics, that sound appealing to the naive and emotional public, in reality not make a lot of sense.

Like identifying the enemy, i.e., the terrorists as Islamic extremists, she believes will help the military win the war on terror. Obama put it bluntly that no religion aims to terrorize innocent people. If she is right, then Timothy McVeigh is a “Christian” extremist and pal, Modi is a “Hindu” extremist. She wants to tag the enemy with ideology or theology, pestering Obama, who refuse to define violent extremists as Islamic, rightfully so, to become like Narendra Modi, who is a shameless bigot and a blatant Muslim hater.

What a hypocrite. The keyword is ‘identify’ or ‘identity,' she repeats over, and over, as in Science of Identity – her cult’s tiresome and simplistic dogma, her cult's battle cry is an attempt to lead subtly to a slogan ‘False Identity’ — meaning the syndrome anyone outside the cult suffers. In her preaching, in private or audience-specific talks, usually unsuspecting Hindus, it is predictable and constant that she ends with the same dogma that ‘we are not the body’, parroting her guru’s narrow understanding of Hindu cosmology.

As a former member of the cult, I can tell without reservation, what follows are that:
1. we are the ‘spirit soul.'
2. our true happiness is to serve God (Krishna)
3. the best way is to serve His sole representative on Earth – her spiritual master – the abusive, intolerant, delusional and manipulative Jagad Guru Chris Butler, who perhaps Tulsi may not even be aware brainwashed her.

Her calls for “democracy”, “freedom of speech”, “religious rights” and “gender equality” contradict the values of the belief system she embraces. No one can say “fuck you” back to the Guru when he’s on a tirade, abusing followers with the filthiest cusses. In fact, the disturbing practice is to hit the ground the moment the Big Guy is of sight. If you associate with a Buddhist or belonging to what they coined “Impersonal” (atheistic) belief, you are as good as dead, and if you’re gay? Good luck. But if they are for Tulsi’s photo-ops, all is fine.

She will not stop calling for drama and attention. She knows Hawaiians are now aware of her link to this controversial, homophobic and ambitious guru and most likely are not inclined to give a second chance. They know whom she represents and accountable. She will aim to run federally, (VP perhaps?) impressing people with her cute resume, as a G.I. Jane and as a Hindu. No doubt, she has a smile and charm that can disarm media celebrities. 30 years is worth the wait.

Tulsi, here’s a message for you:

The “unconditional love” you are so impressed about is not “out there” or from a “porn god”, definitely not from a “misogynist asshole”, but here on Earth, right now. It is tangible, genuine and across the board, even among other creatures. It need not be “otherworldly” or “fantastically” or even “religious”. It is simply the love between a parent and a child.

Become a uniter, instead of helping perpetuate this sickening practice of forcing a child be separated from a parent or vice versa simply because “the other” chose to disagree. No one has to choose between belief and a family. It is the bitterest pain one could inflict upon a human being. It is a violation of the most fundamental manifestation of love. Even the lions and the hyenas love their young.

You have the tool to change things and perhaps lives. Just say “thanks …” to those that help brought you to where you are now (especially those who contributed $2,000 while living in a shack), “… but no thanks” to their expectations.

It’s a New Age; there’s nowhere to hide. Stop being cute about your cult (Hindu?), people around already know, they are just polite. Snap out, cut the strings and surf away. Bring along your friends and your loving family. Stay in D.C. and seek protection from Homeland Security from the threat of the real terrorists – those who brainwash children and parents alike. It’s true they don’t blow up buildings or murder people (they can), it does not mean they are not a threat — they terrorize minds and souls, and are similarly ruthless to those who disagree. What’s the difference? It’s just the proportion. A threat is a threat – it destroys lives and brings pain. It’s not too late. Choose authenticity. Say no to tyranny.



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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: November 16, 2015 03:54AM

Dharmabum, what a great write up.
Check out this Tulsi Gabbard meme I found on the Facebook page of Half Empty Acamana

https://facebook.com/halfemptyacamana/


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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: November 16, 2015 04:31AM

Googling, again, man, love seeing you in action! Nice call on the Ron Paul, I was into him, too, joined him on a March/walk of Ron Paul supporters in SF in 2007 or so. I was skating around with them. Had his sticker on my car, too!

Break it down, homie!

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Re: Chris Butler, Jagad Guru, Science of Identity
Date: November 16, 2015 06:56AM

Dharma- EXCELLENT summary-
additionally “
It’s a New Age; there’s nowhere to hide. Stop being cute about your cult (Hindu?), people around already know, they are just polite. Snap out, cut the strings and surf away. Bring along your friends and your loving family. Stay in D.C. and seek protection from Homeland Security from the threat of the real terrorists – those who brainwash children and parents alike. It’s true they don’t blow up buildings or murder people (they can), it does not mean they are not a threat — they terrorize minds and souls, and are similarly ruthless to those who disagree. What’s the difference? It’s just the proportion. A threat is a threat – it destroys lives and brings pain. It’s not too late. Choose authenticity. Say no to tyranny.” End quote.

Tulsi- how about saying yes to saving kids and families? Isn’t that a great idea?

End the Lies, Tulsi.

Rama- great find from Halfempty acamana...but look what I found!! Is this
Dabs??? The first photo that pops up on this blog.
Right smack in the middle of the photo, sitting below AC Bhakti- titled- Golden Gate Park - July 24 1969.
[ankeholst.com]

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Same operating system, different apps
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: November 16, 2015 08:40AM

Tulsi Gabbard has stepped forward to oppose ISIS. But she should consider that her religion is based on the same operating system as ISIS.

Same operating system -- Fundamentalist Purity

Butlerism and ISIS are merely different applications sitting atop the same OS.

The problem with purity is that it has no goal -- one can never be pure enough. Purists are never satisfied. Give in to their demands, they come up with new ones.

In the absence of an adversary, purists turn on each other.

Dharmabum summarized the belief system of Jagged guru Butler's political party
as follows:

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Independents for Godly Government:

1. Core belief – society is rotten to the core (ungodly).

2. Objective – as devotees they have a moral responsibility to save humanity from itself.

3. Solution – develop the love for God (ultimate).

4. Method – Chant the Holy Names (mantras).

5. Dogma - Acquire pure knowledge, that is “you are not the body” (hence, The Science of Identity).

6. Source – From a bona fide spiritual master, the sole representative of God on Earth, a genuine lover of God, the “pure” spirit soul, the Jagad Guru (Universal Teacher) or for short, “full” surrender to Chris Butler.

Sit back and compare this with ISIS.

1. Society is rotten to the core - except for the ISIS caliphate and its interpretation of Islam and Sharia.

2. ISIS adherents know they have the moral responsibility to bring humanity to their interpretation of Islam and to kill or enslave anyone who refuses.

3. Develop love/unquestioning submission to God/Allah as interpreted by the Caliph of ISIS

4. Chant the prayers and Koran and live by the protocol of ISIS (Wear a beard or get punished. Get caught smoking and you're caged or beaten. Ditto if you don't go to prayers at the mosque.)

5. Dogma: follow ISIS version of Islam, kill, torture, rape and enslave
and plunder identified enemies -- all this plus death in battle will send you
to Paradise

6. Swear obedience to the Caliph

There is one difference.

ISIS hates those who disagrees and says so publicly.

Chris Butler and his minions consider us impure. But they make sure
we do not know this. They want our money, want us to patronize their businesses.

We are impure and corrupt, but our money is pure. Heh.


Now...voters of Hawaii.

You have something Butler wants and wants very badly. Something in addition to money.

Your vote.

Do you want to regarded in the same way as a latrine?

Taken for granted, regarded as a joke, sought out only when needed?



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