The posting by 'Kyung' had been placed in the wrong area he or she had been advised to place it in this part of the forum.

I am not 'Kyung'.

James

Moderator I ask you to please note that [b:a36005344d]again[/b:a36005344d] certain participants are seriously misrepresenting my comments. Take the recent remarks of realnamegone-aka-christoperhansard

[i:a36005344d]"For example, Mr. Bowe [b:a36005344d]clearly stated [/b:a36005344d]that Steve and Susanne Lawson "aided" CH [b:a36005344d]in his deceit[/b:a36005344d], when they were victims like everyone else. These [b:a36005344d]accusations[/b:a36005344d], essentially [b:a36005344d]of aiding and abetting a crime, are a form of slander [/b:a36005344d]and should be stopped immediately. The same goes for comments about other people like Charlotte Pulver, Terry Willard and Paul Nelson. [/i:a36005344d] (emphasis added)

[b:a36005344d]Here again are my actual comments..[/b:a36005344d][/color:a36005344d]

[i:a36005344d]"Perhaps you may be aware that he was active in the Vancover and Alberta regions, peddling his quasi-shamanistic twaddle as a genuine native tradition. In so doing not only did Christopher Hansard exploit and plagiarize Tibetan culture, but cynically deceived native peoples of Canada. He was [b:a36005344d]it seems greatly aided in this regard by a Mr.Steve Lawson (aka Medicine Man), and Ms. Susanne Hare (aka Island Mama), [/b:a36005344d]both of whom, rather ironically work with the First Nations Environmental Network (FNEN). [b:a36005344d]They apparently assisted in the promotion, publicity and organized a number of 'events'. There are some serious questions to be asked of these individuals.[/b:a36005344d] (emphasis added)[/i:a36005344d][/color:a36005344d]

[b:a36005344d]These are facts, within a speculative context, as these individuals were indeed actively engaged in supporting and promoting Hansard's activities in Canada. Those (ie Hansard's actons) involved deception, in the sense that Hansard was peddling Dur Con, as an authentic native tradition, [i:a36005344d]ipso facto [/i:a36005344d]those individuals were associated with, and actively promoted, such activities! [/color:a36005344d][/b:a36005344d]

[b:a36005344d]Below yet more distortion from realnamegone-aka-christoperhansard[/b:a36005344d]

[i:a36005344d]As a last point, many derisive comments have been made about [b:a36005344d]Bon [/b:a36005344d]and [b:a36005344d]Tibetan Medicine[/b:a36005344d], specifically about the practice of demonology, which is a venerable, pervasive and high specialized practice in the East Asian medical systems that I doubt anyone on this list can speak about with practical experience or authority. [/i:a36005344d]

[b:a36005344d]Wrong! Any critical comments have been directed specifically against Hansard's cynical deception, known as Dur Con. I have at no time been disparaging or critical of Tibet's Native Religion, Bon. Nor have I criticised or disparaged authentic Tibetan medicine.[/b:a36005344d] challenging only Hansard's claims to being a 'master of Tibetan medicine', which he is not![/color:a36005344d]

[b:a36005344d]As to the reference to demonology here are my comments..[/b:a36005344d]

The [b:a36005344d]recent postings [/b:a36005344d](28/29th May) on the Rick Ross Forum provide a very interesting insight into the [b:a36005344d]minds of Hansard's apprentices/colleagues[/b:a36005344d]. It appears [b:a36005344d]they share a common belief in a number of medieval-like superstitions [/b:a36005344d]such as exorcism and demonic possession, while some subscribe to other bizarre beliefs, such as 'psychic attack'. In light of this delusional and exotic mindset, the fact these individuals were entrusted to care for clients is rather troubling, [b:a36005344d]One would have thought any reasonable, ethical, and professional complimentary care would be based, not upon demonology, but sane and authentic treatment?[/b:a36005344d][/color:a36005344d]"

In relation to genuine Tibetan medicine realamegone-aka-christopherhansard will of course be delighted to note that The Yuthog Foundation, a highly respected organization etablished for the purposes of preserving and developing authentic and traditional Tibetan medicine, has decided to remove all references to Christopher Hansard from its website.

Bowe I am now positive that you cannot read. If you looked at the top of the posting and my comment I clearly stated that it had been placed in the wrong area of the website. I moved it to this area and it came out under my name, however if you look at the string lying across the top you will see that I am not the author of that posting.


James

Posted: 05-31-2007 09:22 PM Post subject: posted by Kyung in wrong spot

Dear Moderator

by now it is quite obvious to everyone that MR Blowe is constantly starting arguments with pretty much everyone. What is his motive? It does not seem to be the same as ours, to unite together in support and action towards an outcome, that of putting a stop to the abuse of Christopher Hansard.

Why attack other participants? It is clearly obstructive, I have no choice but to come to the same conclusion as Real-Name-Gone.

As to the subject of names, it may have escaped your attention , but unlike yourselves I do not hide behind a nom de plume. May I suggest you state here your actual names [...]

[b:67b31859f0]PUBLIC HEALTH WARNING:
CHRISTOPHER HANSARD COULD SERIOUSLY DAMAGE YOUR HEALTH[/b:67b31859f0]
[b:67b31859f0]To summarise the main allegations of sexual abuse by Christopher Hansard:[/b:67b31859f0]

“When he (Christopher Hansard) was accused some years back of sexually abusing some female clients he brought on board a specialist in abuse.” DORJE

“I'm adding to this thread because I have known Chris (Christopher Hansard) for a long time and sadly have met many people deeply hurt and disturbed by him. This was the same in NZ as in the UK although he wasn't doing medicine in NZ. His process is abuse - sexual, physical and emotional. Bear in mind that abusers do choose and coach their victims carefully. He leaves his victims very confused and disoriented. Many have needed a lot of professional help to recover.” DORJE

“Over the years I have met one woman who claimed he (Christopher Hansard) raped her. I read her account and believed it. He was treating her for childhood sexual abuse.

I have met another six women who claimed he (Christopher Hansard) exhibited inappropriate sexual behaviour toward them.” DORJE

“Sexual impropriety, yes. I know people who were fondled and mislead.” HDM

“He (Christopher Hansard) behaves oddly, as shamans and teachers can, but the proof is in his behaviour, which is cruel, self-serving, duplicitous and mocking. I've seen him in action rather a lot. Not a true teacher, but certainly was for a time very rich!!” HDM

“My colleague on this investigation and I have extensive files which include statements from various people associated with CH(Christopher Hansard). Some were patients, some were fellow therapists, some former employees, some simply people who had bumped into him at classes or in the park. As I have already mentioned, not one single one of these people were willing to go on record. They were all afraid of CH (Christopher Hansard) for a variety of reasons. I hoped when I started this thread that people would come forward -- so that it would be possible to expose CH (Christopher Hansard) in the media and save future sufferers from his unscrupulous clutches.” PEMA

“I have been aware of CH (Christopher Hansard) for some years both as a professional and as a patient. I have felt drawn to him but VERY wary. He is seductive in both a sexual and non sexual way. Yes he displays inappropriate behaviour as a therapist and I didn't feel a benefit from his treatments.” ARCEE

“I did not consider his sexual gropings appropriate nor did I like the way he (Christopher Hansard) dealt with some other personal matters of mine.” ARCEE

“However, I also had personal experiences of CH's (Christopher Hansard) faults: being drunk at the clinic, being very scary when he was angry and being sexually inappropriate.” LILY

“Accusations of rape and molesting are not just being "a baddie". Knowledge of CH's (Christopher Hansard) lying and betraying the trust of many is not just being " a baddie". This man held the trust of hundreds of people!” MARIAH

“I am a therapist and know the accusations of molestation and lying to be true. I knew people to whom this happened and their degree of distress long before these accusations started appearing in public. They had no cause to lie. I don't personally know of "rape" but I do know of "strong persuasion". Coming from a powerful teacher(Christopher Hansard), I see that as damning enough, not to mention the simple fact that he was married.” MARIAH

“There may be hundreds, if not thousands of people who have in some way suffered because of his (Christopher Hansard) sickness.” DORJE

“I have heard recently that none of Christopher Hansard's apprentices or students are working with him any more. There have also been further revelations of sexual (and other) misconduct.” ATLANTIC

“His behaviour was sexually and emotionally inappropriate, probably in a court of law I could site sexual abuse.This is quite hard to write about. When it got more serious, I wrote him (Christopher Hansard) a long letter to try and get him to justify his behaviour,(as he kept telling me I needed a man like him,and the rest),but when it came to him standing by his behaviour or word, he just avoided all responsibility and acted like I had made it all up.” WISEDUP

“…especially since he (Christopher Hansard) had left another victim in Canada who sounded to be even less able to defend herself than I was as she had earlier abuse issues, it was easy for Chris to discredit her.” WISEDUP

“I mean, we are talking about illegal behaviour here. I had no idea of how extensive his appalling behaviour had been.” WISEDUP

“Rest assured that there are individuals that were closely associated with Christopher Hansard and have first hand knowledge of his gross sexual misconduct, lack of integrity and compassion who are watching this site.

I personally have no fear to tell my story to stop any other woman being abused by him. This cannot continue to happen and he (Christopher Hansard) cannot continue to practice. He can not be trusted to be alone with female patients or students. Any medical doctor would be struck off for just one of the incidents I am aware of.” CIRRUS

“I have also experienced his lies and his sexually inappropriate and lewd behaviour” CIRRUS

“I am glad that more people are coming forward with their experiences. Abuse of women patients is a common complaint but do bear in mind that Hansard (Christopher Hansard) has abused plenty of men as well. I hope that many people will benefit from knowing that this was a general process of abuse and not their individual fault.” DORJE

“The man (Christopher Hansard) has systematically emotionally, mentally and sexually abused clients on an alarming scale.” REAL-NAME-GONE

“The abuses we are talking of here have been going on as long as Hansard (Christopher Hansard) has been in practice in London – about sixteen or seventeen years and perhaps from long before.” DORJE

“Considering the scale of Hansard’s (Christopher Hansard) operation since then and considering that many of the stories we read here relate to continued sexual abuse we might fairly assume that his victims now number many thousands of women.” DORJE

“However, during my time there CH (Christopher Hansard) was sexually inappropriate with me and whilst I was traumatised and confused by this, I convinced myself it was a lesson. A spiritual teaching. I never told anyone about it.” CIRRUS

“CH (Christopher Hansard) did often talk in a sexual way to us making lewd comments which were inappropriate” CIRRUS

“It seems that he (Christopher Hansard) was using a distorted form of 'sexual healing' on some level. But he had no boundaries. It is not acceptable for a practitioner to use such techniques without the consent of the patient and without their understanding of what is happening to them. It appears many were left confused and upset but did not report these incidents.” CIRRUS

“I have had to live with the results of his (Christopher Hansard) influence on my own wife and the attempt to gain control of my son.” DIVORCED

“I personally know of strong sexual persuasion

I know of inappropriate sexual comments.

I know of inappropriate touching.” MARIAH

“I was never sexually abused by Christopher Hansard but know many who were. I will let them know that they can go to the police and make a claim.” ROSEMARY

“Hansard (Christopher Hansard) has abused people emotionally and psychically.” GONDOLF

“Victims of abuse need to go to the police in person or contact the inspector. There appear to be many victims. Sexual harrassment and abuse is a serious crime.” ATLANTIC

“I had a personal experience of Christopher Hansard being sexually abusive. Christopher presented it as part of my healing to overcome my fears, after a previous sexual abuse. At the time I stopped Christopher’s advances and after the event remained very uncertain about whether Christopher’s intensions were to assist in my healing or to fulfil his own sexual urges, or both.” LILY

“Their accounts of sexual abuse and misconduct once again show us that Christopher Hansard is no where fit to be practising and all authorities should be notified as mentioned many times previously in this forum.” ROSEMARY

“He (Christopher Hansard) built up my trust over a long period of time, which I believe is known as grooming, and then abusing his position of trust, he sexually assaulted me without asking my consent.

I am not concerned only for myself. I am concerned about the women who were in a very mentally unstable state, who were coerced into sexual acts and then wandered around on a tightrope of insanity not feeling they could speak to anyone. Who were then cut off and slandered.” KURUKULLA

“I was there when the first group of women complained about his (Christopher Hansard) sexual impropriety. I watched as he broke down in tears and somehow convinced our small group including his wife that they were conspiring to get him.

I came back from a holiday to hear of a new accusation of sexual impropriety. By chance I had the patient’s number and arranged to meet her. I heard her story and never went back to him (Christopher Hansard) again. She wrote her complaint to the professional body he belonged to at the time. The boss was a client so I guess it went nowhere. She was scared to go to the police.” DORJE

“Anyone who is sexually touched, by a person in a position of power or responsibility, is a victim of abuse. The person holding power has an absolute responsibility to be trustworthy. Any breach of this trustworthiness for sexual reasons is abuse. Sexual remarks are totally inappropriate and will form part of the whole picture of violation.” MARIAH

“But as a shamen uses sex to enchant a student and she consents as she thinks it may be part of her path or 'healing'.... he rapes her soul and he breaks her spirit and leaves his sickness inside her.” CIRRUS

[b:67b31859f0]Women’s bodies are sacred

Women’s minds are sacred

Women’s hearts and emotions are to be RESPECTED[/b:67b31859f0]

[b:67b31859f0]Please have the courage to come forward and file your allegations with the police. The central focus for this investigation:

PC Baxter of the Sapphire Unit, Notting Hill Tel: 020 8246 0114 [/b:67b31859f0]

...and finally. Any chance of supporting those men who may have suffered abuse by Hansard?

[b:30a3adec49]“Rest assured that there are individuals that were closely associated with Christopher Hansard and have first hand knowledge of his gross sexual misconduct, lack of integrity and compassion who are watching this site.[/b:30a3adec49]
[b:30a3adec49]
What a revealing and assertive quotation posted by Kurukulla. That being so, the questions, on complicity and collusion, are invested with a greater sense of urgency and value. Thank you for unearthing this important statement.[/color:30a3adec49][/b:30a3adec49]

Jeff Bowe

you cannot reveal the identities of those who contribute to an anonymous forum. It is against the rules, and against the law. You are directly endangering our phsyical safety.

Please stop your dangerous and malicious game immediately.

You have gone too far.

So you would indulge, ignore, tolerate and support Hansard's seeming abuses by permitting your fear of 'danger' to prevent you from revealing your identity? One imagines it will be rather diffcult therefore to prosecute any legal case, if people such as yourself are hiding behind a veil of intimidation. Makes one wonder if you really do wish to obtain justice!

No matter, the cracks are ever widening, and truth will out. Many will be grateful to Cirrus for revealing that, as I questionned, associates of Hansard were indeed aware of his apparent abuses [...]