I see we are back to the guilty by association trip. This means that every sweetshop that sold chocolate should be prosecuted because of the possibility they were supplied with a contaminated product from the manufacturer?

Companies and people operate in good faith, Hansard did not. The fact that he took others in reflects on the nature of his fraud.

If we are to assume guilty by association or genuine by association that puts many people in a very difficult position, does it not Jeff? If you have ever had an article published or been reviewed in playboy does that mean you are a pornographer? If you have had articles published in a flying saucer/aliens ate my dog magazine does that mean you are nut case?

In the same light Charlotte no doubt saw magazine articles, press reviews, book titles all praising Hansard and did what many people do and provided a service. That does not make her an accomplice, she was taken in and used. She is a victim of a different kind but a victim none the less.

Let us stick to issue and that is Hansard and how to stop him.

James

No we are back to the facts. That individual actively supported and promoted [i:5625644c6a]Dur Con[/i:5625644c6a], and was a central figure in maintaining and spreading the [i:5625644c6a]Master of Dur Con's [/i:5625644c6a]deception. Why, she even administered the UK 'event' finances, a little beyond a casual interest, and hardly equivalent to those clients, who it is reported suffered a range of abuses by Hansard.

jeff bowe:

I am going to warn you one last time.

You have raised this issue repeatedly, i.e. regarding who Hansard worked and/or who previously supported him.

OK.

Now please move on.

There is no point in bickering and flaming about this over and over again.

The focus of this thread is not who Hansard may have duped, but Hansard himself.

Course organisers are paid to organise courses. In the persuit of a normal working life Ms Pulver has been duped like the rest. She organised courses and no doubt expected to be paid for them just like the people who run, Mind Body Spirit, Ideal Home Exhibition etc, etc. It would be interesting to know if she was ever paid, I doubt that she was. You would have more experience with Hansard in this area than the rest of us.

If treated kindly I would suggest that Ms Pulver might be able to provide a great deal of information about Hansard and his activities... McCarthyite witch hunts are counter productive, they destroy the truth, as all that is revealed is the greed an obsession that motivates the organiser.

Charlotte if you read this site, did you operate out of good faith? Were you influenced by CH’s previous media exposure and published books. Did this material in the public domain lead you to believe that CH was genuine?


James

Please feel free to contact me if you have information you wish to pass on but not express on this board.

James

Unfortunately due to the editorial constraints, which do appear to rather selectively applied to my postings, a debilitation not suffered by other contributors to this discussion, I am somewhat reluctant to enter a reply to the above comments.

I would add that DurCon is not a fact. Only the existance of that particular point of view is a fact.

I jst tried posting for the 3rd time and nothing appears. Are you receiving them and not allowing posting or are they just disappearing into the ether? If you have received them and are not posting would you please tell me why? I hope that they don't all get posted at the same time if they do, because they all say pretty much the same thing.

Confused

OK that just answered my question. The heading came up saying that it would be posted once reviewed, that has not happened before so for whatever reason they have disappeared into the ether and I will try again.

Confused

We await verifyable evidence to convince anyone that Christopher Hansard's claims are not a fraudulent and cynical fabrication. Until then perhaps the following points may sharpen the critical focus, and remind us that Dur-Con is just that.

Dur-Bon is an archaic traditional practice which does not involve medicine or healing whatsoever.

There, is amongst the traditional and authentic Tibean Bon tradition no recognition or practise of 'Dur-Bon'

Written and spoken Tibetan is required to learn, and achieve a full understanding of, genuine Tibetan medicine, Hansard is fluent in neither

The so-called 'Tibetan Bon Community', which Hansard claims predicted his birth, is completely unknown to Tibetan Bonpos I have consulted

The 'teacher' Hansard claimed came from the remote wilds of Amdo would be most unlikely to have learned sufficient English, to tutor a four-year old New Zealand boy in the complex mysteries of Tibetan medicine.

Based upon a reasonable estimation of Hansard's age, this Tibetan 'teacher' would have been required to obtain travel authorization from the Communist Chinese Regime, during a period when Tibet was sealed off from the outside and world, and religious persecution and cultural destruction was being visited upon Tibetans. This is highly unlikely.

The 'tribe' Hansard states 'teacher' came from, the so-called gNam, is completely unknown to Tibetan Bon scholars and does not appear as a clan name on authentic Tibetan Bon texts. Nor is it known to Amdo-Tibetans I have consulted.

The name he gives his 'teacher', 'Urgyen' is a Tibetan Buddhist name, closely linked to the Nyingmapa tradition

There is no correspondence of "twelve teachings", Hansard describes, within the traditional and genuine native religion of Tibetan Bon

The so-called 'Northern Treasure School' he claims as his 'lineage' is in fact not a school at all, but is based upon texts found in the Northern part of Tibet

Lastly, Hansard stated in a direct communcation to me, and elsewhere, that his 'system' was not related to the authentic Yungdrung Bon tradtion of Tibet. That being so how interesting that Hansard's amusing invention, called [i:17d6de0fe3]The Flowering Light Tantra[/i:17d6de0fe3], is comprised of supposed 'sayings' (itself a ridiculous fantasy) of Tonpa Shenrab [b:17d6de0fe3]the central figure in Yungdrung Bon[/b:17d6de0fe3])

Hansard received no authentic and recognized training in genuine Tibetan medicine and was not a Physician of Tibetan medicine.