NOTE TO THE MODERATOR: I am not sure whether you will class this email as 'trolling' or not, given your past record, but please understand that I am merely trying to excercise a right of reply towards the slander that has been directed against me. I have been accused of theft, and would appreciate being heard out. If I have used any offensive language, please keep what is left of my post.
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sWord
Sorry for the delay. I tried to negotiate with the "apostle" about our boy's kidney, and didn't want to antagonise him.
However he branded me a terrorist and declared that they do not negotiate with terrorists.
Perhaps it would be more accurate to say you sent a letter trying to blackmail us, but all that you had as a threat was a crummy website. You had some grandiose ideas about how I would have to be 'sacrificed for the good of the group' (i.e. kicked out) so that we could defend ourselves against your terrible website.
It sounded so much like you thought of yourself as a real blackmailer, that Dave made a joke about not negotiating with terrorists.
Just lucky that I didn't laugh...
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sWord
Anyhow, the deal didn't come off, and Ashwyn has now denounced his mother and cut off contact with us. So I can get on with saying what they took.
The other side of the website issue comes out. Is it really that unimaginable that I decide no longer to trust people when they are running a public campaign (including registering two domains, and however much work goes into it) against what I believe, and have clearly and unambiguously stated that they want to stop me from doing what I want to do.
I don't know about me denouncing anyone, but you continue to think that you can have it both ways.
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sWord
Very puzzling indeed was what happened to my web-server which had to run 24/7. I'd borrowed a 2nd hand floppy drive from him. He tried to retrieve it without stopping the machine. Burnt out the motherboard and left the machine quite useless. All for a $5 floppy drive.
It is similar to the problem the is puzzling me at the moment. That is, where you found people selling second hand floppy drives for $5? That is a bit of a rip off if you ask me. And no, of course I did not attempt to take the floppy drive. Nor have I stolen anything from you, if I give something to you, it is yours. I have always thought that the same applied in reverse.
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apostate
Now he is believing their "he who has two should give to those who have none" bible interpretation as applying to body parts, as his desire to please this false god; created in the image of David McKay, is back stopped by other group sycophants.
Strip away all the emotive and obfuscating language there and what are you left with? Now Ashwyn believes that those who have two should give to those who have none. Well, I guess you got me on that one.
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cait
We are suffering greatly from Ash's recent rejection of us, all in the name of loyalty.
As I recall, the last time we discussed this issue your response was very clear. If I request that you meet with Dave to discuss the website, then you are not interested in talking to me at all. I never rejected you, all I did was request a discussion, prompting your rejection of me. If I was being exclusive, I would have said "Shut down the website now, or I don't want to talk to you." Even that by itself might be reasonable. As I said before, why should I trust you when you play these childish games.
Let me just remind you of some of our email correspondance which you have not since denied, let alone apologised for, despite trying to pretend that nothing has happened.
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cait - in email
I am just here to stand up for freedom of speech, and the bohemians, and if we need to get so serious that we have to call in a caucus on any issue : well, cela!... sorry, but I guess I'm suddenly needed elsewhere, and Nick just ain't allowed to play after all.
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cait - in email
Simply, if you are not comfortable to meet us Dave-less in the first instance, you need to know we will not be comfortable to meet at all after all, because unless we are at peace with each other, there is no way that Nick and I can be at peace with Dave or anyone else - even ourselves. I think I understand that you are not prepared to allow or accept that contingency, and you need to understand that in that case, we can't proceed any further.
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cait
We still think that, but have soiled our nest irretrievably by my not agreeing to a meeting with Da Man to explain why Ash should donate his kidney, after having taken Ash up on an offer to meet briefly with himself, Ross and Barry for that purpose.
I later realised that the reason Da Man needed to explain why Ash wanted to donate his kidney, was more related to their interest in obtaining the domain names of jesuschristians.net and .org to which sWord has previously referred. That interest rapidly dissipated, as did all contact with Ash.
I don't know how many times that we have to go over this same issue. I said from the start that I wanted to clear up MY concerns over the website, and I wanted to answer your concerns over the donation, plus any other concerns that may be leading you to act in this childish manner. Perhaps you did not hear or understand this from the beginning, but you continually insinuate that the reason I wanted Dave there to, was speak to you guys about kidney donations. That is not the case, but even if it was, the extent of your irrational demonisation of him is incredible. You still can't even bring yourself to address him by name.
Seriously, pleasetake a look at yourself, and what you are writing.
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sWordIf Ashwyn would only learn Unix and host the site on their own Apache server, they could look at the IP address of every visitor. As it is, their
script which you can see at [
jesuschristians.net] contains an URL [
pub40.bravenet.com]
and if you go there, click on "VIEW SITE STATS". All pretty tame stuff. They can tell what Operating System, what screen resolution, what browser visitors are using. But NOT your email address.
Good answer Nick, perhaps you might even go so far as to call it "hit counter code", as it is commonly known. Otherwise you play into the rampant paranioa about email address harvesting that people have. And you wouldn't want to play into people's paranoia, would you?