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...What about the people who have left TFI, that no longer exist in Ole's mind? When I asked him about the book the first time, he said he didn't even remember Wendy Duncan. After I met her and asked him again, he remembered her then all right, and remembered her well, and had nothing nice to say. He basically called Doug a prostitute for marrying her. Ole can talk s**t and cuss with the best of 'em. Sorry if this is too graphic, Doug. [/b]
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...What about the people who have left TFI, that no longer exist in Ole's mind? When I asked him about the book the first time, he said he didn't even remember Wendy Duncan. After I met her and asked him again, he remembered her then all right, and remembered her well, and had nothing nice to say. He basically called Doug a prostitute for marrying her. Ole can talk s**t and cuss with the best of 'em. Sorry if this is too graphic, Doug. [/b]
James 1:26 (RSV) If any one thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this man's religion is vain.
This is a good indicator of one of the serious problems at Trinity Foundation. They have taken James 1:26 and come up with an interpretation of it so that they take it to mean EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what it plainly means. Hence, the terrible lack of sanctification in how people express themselves there--especially Ole. As to me being some kind of a "prostitute" for marrying a woman I was (and still am) in love with after we had dated for seven years, I will let anyone who happens to read this draw their own conclusions. If I sold out in any way it was to Ole and Trinity Foundation in letting them talk me out of getting married to someone whom I should have married years before I finally did. This is discussed in detail in Wendy's book.
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James 1:26 (RSV) If any one thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this man's religion is vain.
Doug, can you please elaborate on precisely [i:3b0a34a0be]how[/i:3b0a34a0be] James 1:26 has been twisted in TFI, and on a more correct interpretation as well?
They interpreted bridling your tongue to mean that you should "say what's there," a tortuous reading of this Scripture if there ever was one. I think it is safer when interpreting the Bible to let it simply speak for itself. I am not a Bible scholar (neither is Ole, but at least I do not pretend to be one), but it seems pretty clear to me that this verse is exhorting us to be careful in what we say. You have to go through some major contortions to convince yourself that it means the opposite of that--i.e. say whatever comes to you without thinking about it first.
It is interesting that it says if someone does not bridle his tongue then his religion is in vain. I have heard Ole say many times that he does not consider what he says, he just lets whatever is there come out. If that is true, then according to this verse his religion is in vain.
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James 1:26 (RSV) If any one thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this man's religion is vain.
Doug, can you please elaborate on precisely [i:047e85f201]how[/i:047e85f201] James 1:26 has been twisted in TFI, and on a more correct interpretation as well?
They interpreted bridling your tongue to mean that you should "say what's there," a tortuous reading of this Scripture if there ever was one. I think it is safer when interpreting the Bible to let it simply speak for itself. I am not a Bible scholar (neither is Ole, but at least I do not pretend to be one), but it seems pretty clear to me that this verse is exhorting us to be careful in what we say. You have to go through some major contortions to convince yourself that it means the opposite of that--i.e. say whatever comes to you without thinking about it first.
It is interesting that it says if someone does not bridle his tongue then his religion is in vain. I have heard Ole say many times that he does not consider what he says, he just lets whatever is there come out. If that is true, then according to this verse his religion is in vain.
Good point, sir.
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Counselor47, I agree. Calling you a prostitute for marrying a woman you love is the craziest thing I have ever heard.
Hey, whatever happened to NathanA. I miss him.
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We were originally meeting together over something unrelated and I brought up the subject of Doug and Wendy and the book. He remembered Wendy that day all right...how she never really understood the doctrine nor wanted to be with TFI in the first place, how she'd always whine about protecting peoples self esteem (I can hear now the way Ole said in a sinssongy voice [i:1d44ad1384]"self-esteeeem"[/i:1d44ad1384]) he said that the only reason that she was with TFI in the first place was because she was looking for a husband, and I got the impression that he was implying that Doug had found his sugar-Mama and so decided to leave, along with Wendy.
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Next question: on page 162, Wendy describes she and Doug's disagreements about whether TFI met nine of the ten listed criteria, or all ten. Which one of the ten were you in disagreement over?
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had a professor in college who was friends with Ole and would tell us stories.