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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Valma ()
Date: January 22, 2023 05:47PM

Byron Katie like Mooji and all the other popular leaders in that field do attract people who have emotional issues dating back very often to dysfunctional childhood experiences.It is a huge potential market as huge is the number of potential customers!

How many people have you met who had not had such wounding experiences? Tell me how many people who are on a genuine spiritual quest but are still under the influence of unconscious emotional needs and patterns who have not been attracted to such gurus or guru-like people?

Having been one of them I realized belatedly that unless you have become aware of such emotional issues and dealt with them efficiently and long enough so that you are at least fully aware of the consequences it would have on you as an adult, your genuine spiritual quest will easily be hijacked by such popular "gurus" and make you lose a lot of precious energy/money/attention that you could have invested in your spiritual journey AFTER having dealt with the emotional issues.

Here is the site of a therapist who deals with childhood issues in particular: []

Our spiritual energy/soul is precious, let us be vigilant to whom or what we give it our time, attention etc..

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/22/2023 05:51PM by Valma.

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We need to do background research
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: January 22, 2023 08:27PM

Lets keep the focus on Mooji.

However, any resource or person needs to be background checked.

Therapy and marketing are two different things.

Here's what someone wrote about JW on Reddit



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1 year ago
Anyone tried Dr. Jonice Webb, a pioneer of CEN's Fuel Up for Life recovery program?

I posted this question to the Codependency group. Thought it might be more relevant here:

I've been receiving tons of emails and videos from Dr. Jonice Webb since I purchased her book, Running on Empty. By taking her Childhood Emotional Neglect questionnaire I knew clearly that I have serious CEN problem that needs to be addressed. She has been promoting her 5-week Fuel Up for Life recovery program with evidence-based information ( Based on her promo videos I definitely think the program is for me. But it costs a lot ($795) and I'm really not sure if I actually need it, or going through her book and discuss it with my therapist twice a month would suffice. I'm wondering if anyone here has tried Fuel Up for Life or read her book. Did either of them help you recover from CEN tremendously? Also, what type of psychotherapy did you find most helpful with CEN?



12 days ago

I am a bit late to this convo. But I was looking into Dr. Jonice's Find You Voice Course, which she breaks down on the page how each module will go... The course is $9000!!!

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Re: Mooji a cult?
Posted by: Sahara71 ()
Date: January 23, 2023 06:04AM

Hello Valma,

you make a great point. I think the vast majority of people have psychological wounds of some kind, often stemming from childhood or perhaps from other traumatic events in their lives. Many of these types of emotional problems are not significant enough to 'ruin our lives' or prevent us from having friends, maintaining a job and getting married, etc.

But these kind of emotional wounds are always there in the background, and this can make us susceptible to being exploited in one way or another. Exploitative people are everywhere - they prey on our insecurities. We might crave spiritual progress and so we look towards a guru who offers 'instant enlightenment'.

We might crave approval, so we volunteer countless hours working for a 'charity' that turns out to be a money-spinning scam.

We might crave affection and love, so we end up in a relationship where we are giving a lot more than we are receiving in return.

Perhaps we crave financial success and status so we become workaholics, giving away our precious energy so as some corporation can turn a profit.

It's good to be aware of all the ways in which we can throw away our energy and time for little reward! It's not that working, loving, caring, seeking meaning in spirituality or volunteering are wrong in themselves. It's just that we want to do these things with awareness and balance, knowing where our boundaries are.

I think a trained, registered and experienced therapist can help a person deal with their emotional issues and improve their lives. But it's not a quick fix and you have to be aware that there are exploitative therapists out there, too.

You need to get a referral from someone you trust, like your family doctor or a trusted friend.

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