I have read Dave's latest missive regarding dialogue, or whatever it is he now says he wants. He is very much in wooing phase here, at least with regard to myself and Kevin.
There was a reference somewhere, maybe Dave quoting Brian, of comparing this site to war, with guns and ammunition, and the X site to group therapy. That is probably it in a nutshell.
Now I am the only person who posts on both sites. And for quite some time I was posting on all three sites, challenging Dave on issues such as the whippings and kidney donations. I am not all guns and ammunition, but I'm pretty good at lobbing the odd effective hand-grenade when the situation calls for it.
But I also come from a place of seeing "That of God" in everyone, and I will never lose that belief. Even for mass murders and child abusers, as Brian likes to say. I'm no Mother Theresa or saint, as my history here shows, but I do believe that people should not be given blanket labels which mean that hatred for them consumes us. "That's how wars start", as my Mother used to say. Even on the Kokoda trail, soldiers from both sides found moments where they saw the ultimate humanity in their enemy.
And when Pandora opened that box and released all the hatred and evil things of the human spirit into the world, she also released Hope.
That being said, I have to agree with the moderator that
until there is a return of Joe Johnson to his family, and until Dave stops referring to the attack on Reinhard as attempted murder, and saying that Sheila was an accomplice, then there really is no hope for me to begin any kind of "dialogue".However, I will continue to defend "reason", as it is the only way we can ultimately express what makes us uniquely human. To go after someone with wild speculations stated as fact is not right. That is why I clarified my position on the child abuse within the COG, and whether Dave was aware of it while he was an associate. I see that Dave has finally made a statement denouncing this, in a kind of way.
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Saying, for example, that I don't see that paedophilia is harmful is... well, words fail me.
A stronger statement on this might be helpful, Dave, given the current climate, and your recent postings which seem to be apologist and/or minimising, dismissing it as nothing worse than the Catholic Church. Has the Pope ever released teachings which said that child abuse is to be encouraged? Well that is the logical extension of your comparison, given that David Berg did just that.
I have on this site made at least one, maybe two requests to Dave to at least give us an update on Joe. Is this too much to ask, Dave? Or is it something you are going to hold on to as a power thing?
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2010 02:30PM by Blackhat.