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cait
In fact, parental substitution is what Dave and Cherry seem to have provided very effectively to their recruits over the years.
"Parental substitution"? I cannot believe what I am reading. That, ma'am, is simply one of the most Pollyanna things that I have ever read, and sounds a whole lot like the type of statement that a McKay apologist might make.
Are you saying that you do not believe that DM is a man that the public ought to be warned about, and that the JCs are not a group of which the public ought to be made aware and warned about as well?
Do you believe that the JCs are a destructive cult, Cait? Just yes or no, please.
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cait
Have no doubt - Cherry is as much a victim as anyone else who has chosen to submit their lives to Dave's control.
This is logically contradictory. How could anybody be the victim of David McKay, if they CHOOSE to stay with him? In this instance, such an individual would actually be the "victim" of their own bad decisions, and therefore could not fairly lay the blame for their state on DM or anybody else. No, I still say that somewhere along the line Cherry decided to stay with DM and the group, and she is every bit as complicit as her husband. Or else, she is at this point, after 45-odd years of marriage, every bit as sick and twisted as her husband. Either way, this is not a couple who I would want for my kid to be involved with, and would never recommend them or their cult to anybody.
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malcolm wesley wrest
David requiring me to literally bark like a dog on demand, in order to satisfactorily demonstrate to him how prepared I was to humiliate myslef on demand (he was reasssuring himself that I was sufficiently "under his thumb"
That's horrbile, but interesting to me Mal. I myself had an uncannily similar experience as a teenager. I was made by my parents to go to this abusive B-mod program that was a second-generation Synanon clone. The place is still open to this day. It is a CEDU-type program where one of the "counsleors" was a $cientologist. I was subjected for a couple of years to heavily confrontational attack therapy, have sat through God knows how many encounter groups and "haircuts," and was once made (as part of a "learning experience") to wear a sign around my neck that read "Ask me to bark like a dog." All day long people would do just that, and I'd do so. Don't you think that stuff gave me issues? Maybe what I have been doing lately is unconsciously using this forum as a kind of encounter group in which I have been radiating my feelings. Hammer/nail. God, I have to get a handle on that...
Edited 5 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2010 12:02PM by zeuszor.