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rrmoderator
apostate:
It's your choice to delete your posts, but I don't think it's wise.
You should not let Dave mainpulate you through anyone.
It doesn't help to do that.
I understand and agree with what you say Rick. But there is plenty on Dave without endangering an ex member. Such is the nature of David McKay! He would even sacrifice an ex members reputation to protect his own. Yet another example of his nastiness. I think he is unable to see or comprehend this fact. Narcisissim blinds him. He thinks he is being persecuted. He has created a fantasy world, a vortex, or to quote the Bible "A hidden reef" ripping the guts out of any who sail his way. He destroys peoples faith in humanity.
I wonder if his members, or wife, are aware of his conversation with this particular ex member where he threatened to send the media his way? Are there any left there who even care? Is he going to do it again... probably?
Dave does not like what is being said about him. The fact that he has to threaten one of his sons is another example of what type of person he is, and to what lengths he is prepared to go to acheive his objectives. He has no qualms about engaging in threatening behavior, lies, stealing, cheating, manipulation. He has made these into virtues of good leadership.
David McKay tries to exonerate himself from culpability regarding an action of an individual within his group. Even though he teaches a particular doctrine which led to the action.
For example, he teaches it is a members duty to only be loyal and truthful to "God", and that the devil rules the "system"; and that the devil is a liar stealing everything from God. A sincere impressionable disciple sees that as a licence to enage in illegal activities because Dave has successfully removed their "social conscience". Is he accountable for his part in their actions? I would argue, most definately.
Dave teaches that the end time "army of God" consists of "virgins" and refuses to see a correlation between that and the large number of vascetomies in his group.
Dave uses the Bible to teach impressionable members "He who has two should give to those who have none" as applying to body parts, and has the arrogance to say that he has not influenced anyone to do so, and that there exists no peer pressure within his group. The question about Deborah from Africa is pertinent. It is a fact that people fleeing an abusive relationship will find another. It is the "devil they know", so to speak.
Dave is now beginning to teach that God could make someone rebel against a "good" leader" protecting himself from the possibility of people rebelling against him. What a bind he places himself in. If people do rebel against his biblical perversions he has already put in place a belief system that he remains a "good leader".
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How many have gone to uni in the last 5 years or so? None. Dave tries to cloak himself in the reputation and hard work of those who have left his community as though he is somehow responsible for it and that such people owe him for their successes. I speak of the "two hippies" who left to become a nurse or a doctor. What Dave does not tell you is that these people had to rebel against him to do so. He tried to stop them from doing it. He surrounded them in lies when they left because they skimmed a couple of dollars for bus fares from their tract distribution to get out of town. But then with the above new teaching about "engineered rebellion" Dave has already garnered himself from the impact of the moral culpability of his past actions.
It is this cloaking that Dave is engaging in with the Quakers. He is using them to hide his duplicity. He is the proverbial person who has "crept in" and caught people unawares, feasting and dining with them while teaching outright perversions. I quote the book of Jude here for some of his members if perchance they are reading this.
Yes "Gladitzover" it does take along time to unwarp your mind from his influence because he entangles himself in it replacing the concept of a loving forgiving God with an ogre who whips people gleefully tossing all who disagree into a fiery pit.
Yes David McKay is a cult leader. The Jesus Christains are a destructive cult. Any who leave him and them are by far much better off. I know I am.