I find it disturbing that you have hinted in your penultimate posting that you are going to release the information that apostate deleted and then blame it on google or some other search engine that it got out.
I did not see that "hint". This is a false accusation designed to cover your own actions in this matter.Quote
If Apostate had just been more honest about why it was that he deleted it, this could have been avoided. Anyway, there is still some hope that you have not leaked it yet.
You were the one who approached the ex-member with threats of informing the media. I mentioned no names as I was targetting the teaching not the people. You are embarrassed by some consequences your teachings have brought. Well, you should be. Maybe you will wise up and think through the consequences before teaching them to people.
You can start with the perversion of "he who has two should give to he who has none" as referring to body parts.
When the ethicists you boast of supporting JC kidney donations give their support are they aware that you teach such things to these donors? Are they provided with all the teachings that these donors were subjected to within the group, or are they making their decison simply based upon the superficial apparently isolated "I want to donate my kidney" presentation?
So the moral dilemma that I would like people on this forum to face is this: If such information can be used to discredit me, is it okay to use it? And, at the same time, if it can be used to destroy the career of an ex-member, should it be used?
And here is a classic example of the cloak of invisibility you surround yourself with. The sublime beauty of it. Like a bank robber holding a hostage in front of him. An absence of concern for the hostage, combined with a knowledge of the restraining policies of the police and an ability to communicate that you will kill the hostage if a move against him is made. Hats off to you Dave.
It does not, however, stop people from seeing you using an innocent human shield as you attempt to make away from the crime scene. You may get away, but not with your reputation intact. People can SEE you. They can see how you behave when cornered.Quote
I clearly and repeatedly instructed them and others in the community that their action and similar actions were an abuse and misinterpretation of that article.
Is that a fact Dave. I recall you joining in with bogus job applications in order to get unemployment benefits. In fact those who gagged at it were classified as having weak faith or still bound by a "social conscience".Quote
So, how about it, people? Can you come up with an answer which treats the goose and the gander equally? It's a great opportunity for everyone on this thread to be consistent for once. Or is that too much to ask?
In this case it is not "goose and gander" . It is cult leader and follower, bank robber and hostage. I know you would liked to be treated the same as a follower or a hostage, but that cannot happen as the source of the erroneous teachings is with you, not the follower.
But back to 'frank and candid'. There is some concern that I have bullied Tony into hiding some information. Tony says that he hid the information because I made threats.
Now, But if it's just my 'rants' that bother you, Freebie, why do you bother going to my web site to read the latest articles? Shouldn't you have better things to do with your time?
Thanks for the explanation about how you view me. I think that I have explained (several times now) that I don't answer questions just because you ask them. You have made it quite clear that you don't answer questions that you don't want to answer too. So have YOU got something to hide?
I find it disturbing that you have hinted in your penultimate posting that you are going to release the information that apostate deleted and then blame it on google or some other search engine that it got out. Hopefully my lastest post got to you in time for you to realise that it isn't really going to hurt me... at least nowhere near as much as it is going to hurt an ex-member.
[u:c921827eeb]If Apostate had just been more honest about why it was that he deleted it, this could have been avoided. Anyway, there is still some hope that you have not leaked it yet.
What on earth is going on here.
Let me get this straight. This Dave Mcay has three kids who have left the Jesus Christians? -Who are now adults with their own lives and maybe even families of their own.
Yes, he has 3 children who are out of the group. They want nothing to do with him but would like contact with their mother. Last I heard their mother is not alowed to speak to them or her grandchildren. DJ fears that they will "cause division" and Cherry might leave him.
Cherry, by the way, has crippling rheumatoid arthritis but DJ subjected her to the recent whippings in California. He said it was her decision but whenever that is said, take it with a grain of salt. He will use anything and anyone to get publicity. Having his crippled wife get whipped really pushes him to new heights in my opinion.
It’s kidneys today, what next lungs, livers………does some one have to die or have a complete mental break down before more people speak out.