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Apollo
I find it deeply disturbing how McKay has this sick need to control minors/young teenagers.

Especially when we know he has such a soft approach towards paedophilia....

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Dave McKay
But a better example is paedophilia. Kids are not FORCED to have sex, and yet society says it is wrong. I know, I know, they are not adults. But you see, we each have our restrictions that we think makes it wrong or doesn't make it wrong. And so what we decided to experiment with is just trying to follow the rules as we honestly and humbly think God wrote them.

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Dave McKay
But it is an attempt to put the crimes into some other perspective than the rather sensational one that usually surrounds the topic of sex in the media. Is there any room for society to take genuine repentance into consideration when dealing with the subject of paedophilia? Or is mercy only limited to other sins?

When you have an ultimate leader who has a need to control minors/young teenagers AND who has a soft approach towards paedophilia then bad things often happen.



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Peaceable Dave McKay, who is soft on paedophiles and traps young idealists, has got a fish-- and quite a consciously knowing fish at that.

[jesuschristians.com]

This one doesn't sound at all like the usual prospects, and I'm surprised he published it.

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Stoic
Peaceable Dave McKay, who is soft on paedophiles and traps young idealists, has got a fish-- and quite a consciously knowing fish at that.

[jesuschristians.com]

This one doesn't sound at all like the usual prospects, and I'm surprised he published it.

If it walks and talks like a JC then it probably is a JC...

Or Peaceable Dave playing games......

Dave's got more games than Parker Brothers. This reads like one of the older posters there. I seem to recall another person in the past, who would post and use words like"Jah" and "Yah." But this was awhile back.

The newbie's style certainly looks familiar.

You would have more familiarity with the "styles" than I, as I admit to not having followed the JC forum as rigorously as one might... Steve Hassan observed that cults have no interest in recruiting "weaklings" or those who need to be "nursed" in any fashion....(healthy worker drones are required to serve the queen bee!) hence, Denise was never recruited as she would require constant acknowledgement and her own "turf" (among other things)....and "daily slave" if they are not as you say, an extant JC masquerading on the JC forum (a la Anita Foster)....they would appear to be someone, a little (umm..perhaps rather a lot?) delusional, and hence I suspect that McKay would never be interested in having them further involved....(the recruiting, were there to be any, would take place in PM's...that we would not see anyway on the public forum)....

...while he plays games with Josh and Glenn it is really only an indication of how weak he perceives himself to be, having already "blasted" them for failing to commit...he now has no other choice than to invite them back onto the forum, as now else cares to communicate with him at all....

......the forked tongue and fangs temporarily, carefully hidden between the forced smile of those thin scaly lips....

'Daily slave' as a moniker and the fish signature pic....gave me a laugh, anyway.

I think that you and Steve Hassan are right, Malcolm. You have to show the beginnings of a questioning mind in order for that mind to be open to the sort of subversion that Peaceable Dave McKay specialises in.

It's a double bladed axe, this thinking human brain that we are all saddled with, it cuts both ways.



Knopfler moment:

[www.youtube.com]



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Again, I must state that we have no evidence to suggest the apostle is a paedophile however there was a rather disturbing incident back in the Deakin days which most would decsribe as sexual harassment of a minor. Apostate (backed up by various other former members) decribed an incident at Deakin University when the apostle approached a child and asked how often they masturbated. It was his pat response at the time to people who asked him if he had the “Holy Spirit”, so he would ask in response “How often do you masturbate”. He would do this to try and drive his point home that such things are meant to be private, and saw no wrong in asking a child how often they masturbated. The apostle would not heed those who would seek to moderate him making such comments as he thrived on the controversy it generated. As you can imagine the child was terrified and immediately returned home to report the incident to their father. The father appoached the apostle and an angry exchange took place.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/04/2011 09:35PM by Apollo.

So let me get this right;

The Apostle goes out preaching in the street, presumably about the benefits of coming to know the holy spirit of Jesus, but when a child asks him if he himself has the 'Holy Spirit'--that which he is promoting for others to accept--he feels free to humiliate the child in an age-inappropriate way as some kind of lesson for the child?

If its so great a prize that he must sell it on the street and has it himself why can he not just simply admit that? The greatest sales technique in the world is: "I bought one myself and it is everything it is cracked up to be"

He is basically a sadist, glorifying in his control of those more vulnerable.

He may not, strictly speaking, be a paedophile himself but he is certainly singing from the same songbook.