A quick note: I have read scattered accounts of people getting started in UM by first receiving a UM DVD or tape.

Would be interested to know if listening to or viewing these thing trigger some sort of
sublime experience or relaxation response.

If so this may lead the subject to feel convinced that UM must have something special if a mere UM DVD can elicit such seemingly profound experiences/emotions.

Friends, I am sorry to report that we human beings are wired for such responses. We are social animals and diddling our imaginations and emotions and minds in some ways will generate bonding responses.

Shamans have done forms of this for centuries.

Today, greatly refined, these same seemingly intimate and sublime experiences can be created via music and images, and methods of communication that by pass consious thought.

A fellow who analyzed the work of a contemporary film maker, Stan Bakhage, wrote this in the introduction to the book.

Its quite all right to enjoy this as art. But dont make a decision about purchasing a car or a decision about health care based on this sort of thing.

Sales techniques can be quite potent when using these same methodology and we dont know what is going on.

Artists usually dont try to get us to change our lives----or influence how we live with our families.

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narratives provide explanations for actions that lead to their focal event, though these explanations are based partly on identification, regression, and primary process thinking, as well as logic and reality testing.

Narratives make use of devices such as analogical parallels that help us make sense of the succession of events they recount. They embody attitudes toward the characters who create or react to the events the narrative depicts.

Narratives offer an interpretation on the incidents and characters they represent or at least they guide their reader toward a specific attitude and interpretation. (Corboy emphasis. If a salesperson is doing this, his or her narrative guides you toward purchasing his or her product)

They instruct us on the attitudes we should take towards the characters, the morality of their behavior, and the explanations we are to give about why the characters behave as they do.

What is more, narratives, especially realistic narratives rely on devices, most drawn from analogical thinking that encourage their readers to respond unwittingly to these instructions.

Readers are unaware of these devices (which use analogy) for two reasons:

They engage primary process thinking, the operation of which is preconscious or unconscious

And second, the realistic effects of the the narrative conceals these devices and their mode of operation.

Analogy thinking is based on similiarities and correspondances. Its characteristic of very early childhood, trance, dream states and artistic creation.

These are worthy but need to be balanced by concern for finances and timely diagnoses of health problems while these are still treatable.

Regarding 'scurrilous lies' and 'smear campaigns', it's worth noting that Serge Benhayon has targeted other alternative practitioners in the Byron Bay area by name and warned the UM community not to use their services because they are 'evil'. More disturbingly, Serge apparently assures his followers that any child enrolled in the Waldorf education system suffers supernatural rape at the hands of Rudolf Steiner's spirit. I'm no advocate of the Steiner system, but if that doesn't qualify as a 'smear campaign' I wouldn't know what does.

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Regarding 'scurrilous lies' and 'smear campaigns', it's worth noting that Serge Benhayon has targeted other alternative practitioners in the Byron Bay area by name and warned the UM community not to use their services because they are 'evil'. More disturbingly, Serge apparently assures his followers that any child enrolled in the Waldorf education system suffers supernatural rape at the hands of Rudolf Steiner's spirit. I'm no advocate of the Steiner system, but if that doesn't qualify as a 'smear campaign' I wouldn't know what does.

Hi MacReady- there is a big emphasis on rape and sex inst there? I have heard the same sort of accusations leveled against the Catholic church and other cults either directly or by intimation. Also there is all the stuff about women's cervix's, tampons being like filthy penises, under age sex, peer pressure hand and blow jobs down the park, making love and how SB can do it and no one else can, men relieving themselves, women having sex for fulfillment only....how men are jealous of him, and how he senses everyone is jealous of him and Miranda and their ability to make love...ad vomitum. Why this stuff doesn't creep out the majority women followers I don't know.

Also, as you say, there is not ONE practitioner or modality in anything that Serge approves of. Unless of course they have came under his influence and modified/dropped their previous practices. Otherwise, they are all pushing prana and bad energies into peoples bodies. He openly names them and discourages people seeing them. Interesting, most practitioners in the area, though aware of the damage it is doing their businesses, don't want to say a word. I wonder why....? Silence is Serge's friend that is for sure. Perhaps there will come a day when people will no longer remain silent. Let's see.

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Given Serge's apparent pre-occupation with insidious sexuality (always other people's, of course) I just can't believe any parent would trust him with their children. There's always young teenage girls unaccompanied at the workshops and hanging around at the clinic. From what I understand they occasionally stay at the Benhayon's house, too. I don't want to speculate on that any further, but the whole thing is very unusual, to say the least.

Serge clearly has a general loathing or fear of men. Or both.

In his materwork, Esoteric teachings and Revelations, there are two sections dealing with Women and Men.
In short, the Womens section is quite sympathetic with a lot of focus on breasts ( apperently not as sexual objects) ovaries, cervixes, and the womens body in general. There is also this piece of advice from the Master:

Single Women are not really missing out
most women are only in relationships because it relieves a need and because they are too afraid of what it would be like, without it.
Form relationships from love for love and to to relieve hurts of fill needs.

Clearly great advice and prescient given all of this women students will end up single as they will be imposing Serge's ideas and beliefs on their relationships and his souless, emotionless version of love which none of them can understand, because it doesn't exist. But that's a different story.

The section on Women basically paint women as being victims of imposed roles...and you guessed it, men.

Then we get to the Mens section, we are basically potrayed as brutes masking massive insenstivities and fear of rejection- that is the core issue for ALL men according to the ascended 7th level master from Gonellebah formely a lowly tennis coach ( sorry high integrity tennis coach of well know tennis players, or so he says) but now knower of all truth in the entire universe.

Here's the flavour if his witless wisdom; If you impose your ideals and beleifs on men, you will the perfect cruelty machine! We either identify with our strength or mind if we are no good at the former. (something someone else is clearly lacking on both counts) but be warned if you subvert the real man, he will easily discount and hurt you! And here's a bit of advice for you women who should not fear being single.... if a man is rude or disrpectful, let him sleep alone that night. (that's very subjective Serge you absolute fool. No wonder intimacy is shattered when UM gets involved in the relationship)

Remember girls, if women keep allowing the abuse, disrespect and any other form of behaviour that is less than loving, how will men ever know how far away they are from their true nature? ( abuse for example, like asking why there is no intimacy in the relationship anymore, and why you are being called loveless when you love your partner very much...[but little do you know, pranically, therefore the wrong way, therefore, to let that in, the women is abusing herself- a real headf**k- not to mention, you only want to relieve yourself, you brute/false intellectual]

Notice, there is no similiar rule for women. They can abuse with silence, spending the family budget on UM courses without discussion, deciets of all types in the name of UM, disrespecting their partner by giving no time or thought to them, changing how they interact with their family without any explanation or discussion, refuse to speak, listen, discuss, consult, communicate, withdraw intimacy without reason or discussion, put their fingers in their ears when someone is trying to ask them what is going on....and of course they are just being feminine, the nature of God. Men on the other hand are loveless abusers by definition and nature.

You're a real piece of work Serge. Whether you intend it or not, your so called revelations which are actually just ill-considered and psychologically damaging opinions, are sure destructors of families, truth, intimacy and relationships. That you really believe you know what you are talking about is amazing. That people, especially women who end up single and lonely with unrealisitc ideas of what relationships are about suck it all up, is astounding.

Where you came from must be very distrubring. Where you are going I hope and pray is equally so.



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Single Women are not really missing out, most women are only in relationships because it relieves a need and because they are too afraid of what it would be like, without it. Form relationships from love for love and to to relieve hurts of fill needs. -SB

Interesting that Serge should give that advice, considering the unlikelihood that female students are going to find a suitable male companion within the UM community. Apart from the fact that the male percentage is a mere fraction of the female followers, many of the males in attendance who aren't already in relationships were quite feminized as a result of Serge's teachings, or otherwise 'weird' as I've heard several femal students refer to them. this of course leaves Serge as the only male figure of note in these women's lives, which I'd speculate is how he likes it.

Consider this quote from one of the blogs set up by UM devotees in defense of Serge the divine:

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"In today’s society it is normal that women are brought up with the ideal that they are only complete when they find their ‘perfect man’, get married and have kids, and live happily ever after. Which very often means going through an unloving marriage, divorce, more unloving relationships, etc"

It is the ultimate irony that so many of the predominately female UM community only consider themselves to be complete as a result of finding their 'perfect man' in the form of Serge the alleged enlightened master.

Single Women are not really missing out, most women are only in relationships because it relieves a need and because they are too afraid of what it would be like, without it. Form relationships from love for love and to to relieve hurts of fill needs. -SB

Interesting that Serge should give that advice, considering the unlikelihood that female students are going to find a suitable male companion within the UM community. Apart from the fact that the male percentage is a mere fraction of the female followers, many of the males in attendance who aren't already in relationships are quite feminized as a result of Serge's teachings, or otherwise 'weird' as I've heard several femal students refer to them. this of course leaves Serge as the only male figure of note in these women's lives, which I'd speculate is how he likes it.

Consider this quote from one of the blogs set up by UM devotees in defense of Serge the divine:

[wordsonsergebenhayon.wordpress.com]


"In today’s society it is normal that women are brought up with the ideal that they are only complete when they find their ‘perfect man’, get married and have kids, and live happily ever after. Which very often means going through an unloving marriage, divorce, more unloving relationships, etc"

It is the ultimate irony that so many of the predominately female UM community only consider themselves to be complete as a result of finding their 'perfect man' in the form of Serge, the apparently infallible, all-knowing enlightened master.

Here is something to think about.

These teachings inculcate a fear of men---except for Serge.

Many dispatchers (those who take emergency calls) are men.

Very many paramedics (ambulance drivers) are men

Quite a few physicians, dentists are men.

Firefighters and police officers -- very likely to be male.

Who what happens if someone is taught to be afraid of men?

This means that if a UM woman's health is suffering, the fear of men inculcated by UM will REDUCE the pool of people whom she can go to for help outside of UM

Finally, suppose she has pain or her pain gets much worse at night.

According to UM teachings, the night time hours are a time when one is most at risk of pranic attack and should be asleep.

What happens if a UM woman has breathlessness or some serious health problem strikes during night time hours?

Or a family member of a UM member needs an ambulance called at night with MEN
entering the house?

The network of fears that are woven around and into UM believer's own minds create a terrible burden.

How to call for help in an emergency if there is at the least, a 50% chance that emergency response personnel are male--and the chance being likelier than 50%?

There is no way, according to Western formal logic, for contradictory points to be valid.

Here is an essay on abuses of logic on the Oprah Winfrey show.


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Because these same arguments are popular in all New Age social venues, its worth including this here.

(remember too, that any time you are forbidden to use the term victim yet are given no concrete way to change the finacial, social and physical setting of your life, you are in a bullshit zone.

FEELING empowered is not the same as possessing the social, educational and financial resources to exercise authority and power.

People who inhale cocaine feel powerful despite being addicted, constantly in search of funds, and desperately dependant on whoever can sell them their drug.

What so many citizens do not know is that illlusory feelings of power can be triggered through social engineering by persons who have studied certain techniques. Revival preachers have known this for centuries.

Yes Rachel andras, using serge catchphrases like ridiculous, step up, responsible constructs an argument of stupidity based on nothing other than her own ideas and Serges moronic view if the world.
Rachel, it is not mainly men. None of the men that have lost their , women, parents that have lost their loved one to UM are violent or abusive, and that you compare it to stock standard domestic violence shows your ignorance and is highly offensive. I think you'll find the opposite is true and that we have been at the receiving end of an abuse perpetrated in the name of your cult and idol. Wake up and take responsibility.