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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: MacReady ()
Date: August 22, 2012 11:49PM

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John lazuras
Hi All,
Please find a brief breakdown of the foods that UM have approved for the followers.

These are not all the foods only some that have been listed, so if you partner starts to introduce these into your diet you know they are falling into Serges cult:

Universal Medicine Food Classifications:

Three main foods groups –
1. Evil (really bad) – separates you from your divine essence.
2. Pranic (bad) – hinder the flow of the light of the soul in the body.
3. Fiery (good) – help to re-create a fibrous body of love and light…raw food causes damp.

Evil Foods
Lowest evil 7 – Coffee
6 – Opium and heroin
5 – nil
4 – alcohol
3 – nil
2 – marijuana
Highest evil 1 – ayahuasca

Pranic Foods
Lowest prana 7 – sweet potatoe, fish in general, shark meats, turkey, organic chicken, drinking teas, honeydew.
6 – Pork, manage, lettuce, white rice, orange, paw paw, venision, Non free range eggs.
5 – non free range chicken, kangaroo, apple cooked.
4 – Vinegar , beef, all dried fruit ( brings pranic heat to the body)
3 - nil
2 – Gluten = all wheat and grain
1 – dairy milk (increases dampness in the body)

Fiery Foods
Highest fiery 7 – inner heart – no food on earth are at this level, only herbs.
6 – garlic and chilli
5 – Turmeric, olives, olive oil.
4 – Apples, red onion, spring onion, peppermint tea.
3 – Lamb, fresh coconut, lemons, bok choy.
2 – pineapple, lime, nuts, lettuce in olive oil, cherries.
1 – pumpkin, mint, soy milk, raw unprocessed honey, tomatoes, zucchini, broccoli.

Interesting. Serge advises people to avoid many fruits for being excessively sweet, yet pineapple is near the top of the fiery list. Likewise, he bangs on endlessly about how evil sugar is, yet honey (which is 80% natural sugar, and sweeter than table sugar), is also at the top of the fiery list.
[www.benefits-of-honey.com]

It's almost enough to make one conclude that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

And ayahuasca? I wonder if he writes from experience there? It would certainly explain how his delusional belief system came into being.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: corboy ()
Date: August 23, 2012 01:22AM

A lot of new wage types bang on that honey is better than sugar.

This myth, like the myth that flouridation is evil, has been around for decades.

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Likewise, he bangs on endlessly about how evil sugar is, yet honey (which is 80% natural sugar, and sweeter than table sugar), is also at the top of the fiery list.

Honey is a carbohydrate. It may be metabolized a little more slowly other forms of carbohydrate but it still counts as carbohydrate when you budget the amount you can eat at each meal, in relation to the amount of insulin or other diabetic medication prescribed.

Here on this Diabetes Education website, they list sources of carbohydrate to use if you are suffering serious low blood sugar.

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Typical low blood glucose symptoms are difficulty concentrating, weakness, feeling shaky or trembling, sweating (usually across the brow or under the bust), lack of coordination and lightheadedness or faintness.

Your brain and internal organs use your blood glucose for fuel. If there is insufficient fuel (glucose), your organs cannot function normally. That is why some persons who have low blood glucose pass out because there is not enough energy for the brain to function. The brain uses more glucose than any other organ in the body.

If you are not sure, use a blood glucose meter to quickly determine what your blood glucose is with a finger stick drop of blood. Otherwise, how would you know whether you need to eat 15 grams of carbohydrate (4 to 6 ounces of orange juice, milk or regular carbonated soda, 1 tablespoon honey or syrup or 6 saltine crackers) or take more medication (pills or insulin)? Eat 20 to 30 grams of carbohydrate if your blood glucose is less than 50 milligrams per deciliter, but only if you are conscious. This should raise your blood glucose 45 to 50 milligrams per deciliter. Test your blood glucose in 15 minutes and 60 minutes. If your blood glucose is still low, repeat with 15 grams carbohydrate.

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Can tell you that fifty plus years ago, some twit at a Hollywood health food store babbled to my very gullible father that it was totally OK for a diabetic to have honey, that honey was better than sugar. Mom had to spend a lot of time and stress arguing Dad out of that, thanks to the nudnik who babbled that stuff.

The same myth is still current today. Met a barmy person who sold honey at a farmers market who snarled that diabetics could do better with honey than sugar. All I could think was, 'A glucose meter has more brains than you do, lady." She was so nasty that I slunk away, not daring to argue with her. (There are days I wish we could slip some tranquillizers into the municipal water supply but that would be illegal)

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: HerbertKane178 ()
Date: August 23, 2012 05:43AM

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John lazuras
Hi All,
Please find a brief breakdown of the foods that UM have approved for the followers.

These are not all the foods only some that have been listed, so if you partner starts to introduce these into your diet you know they are falling into Serges cult:

Universal Medicine Food Classifications:

Three main foods groups –
1. Evil (really bad) – separates you from your divine essence.
2. Pranic (bad) – hinder the flow of the light of the soul in the body.
3. Fiery (good) – help to re-create a fibrous body of love and light…raw food causes damp.

Evil Foods
Lowest evil 7 – Coffee
6 – Opium and heroin
5 – nil
4 – alcohol
3 – nil
2 – marijuana
Highest evil 1 – ayahuasca

Pranic Foods
Lowest prana 7 – sweet potatoe, fish in general, shark meats, turkey, organic chicken, drinking teas, honeydew.
6 – Pork, manage, lettuce, white rice, orange, paw paw, venision, Non free range eggs.
5 – non free range chicken, kangaroo, apple cooked.
4 – Vinegar , beef, all dried fruit ( brings pranic heat to the body)
3 - nil
2 – Gluten = all wheat and grain
1 – dairy milk (increases dampness in the body)

Fiery Foods
Highest fiery 7 – inner heart – no food on earth are at this level, only herbs.
6 – garlic and chilli
5 – Turmeric, olives, olive oil.
4 – Apples, red onion, spring onion, peppermint tea.
3 – Lamb, fresh coconut, lemons, bok choy.
2 – pineapple, lime, nuts, lettuce in olive oil, cherries.
1 – pumpkin, mint, soy milk, raw unprocessed honey, tomatoes, zucchini, broccoli.

As ayahuasca is very hard to find in most countries (but more available in S. America) it is unusual to see on the list. It's worth noting that the American philosopher Terrance McKenna did much work with this substance (and other psychedelics) and wrote extensively on it. He claimed that psychedlics advanced human evolution and gave early man their first taste of religeous experience which, and as he believed it, were the basis for the foundation of all subsequent religions to date. (Wikipedia entry on Mckenna)

I also am surprised to see opiates/heroin on the 'evil' list. As an extremely important tool in modern medicine for pain relief and maintenance to call it 'evil' is just plain nonsense. The abuse of such drugs is very damaging to the individual and society at large, but one can't blame the substance for the abuse of it. Would 'super-pro western medicine' Serge Benhayon not advise the use of morphine in palliative care or during surgical procedures?

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: MacReady ()
Date: August 23, 2012 06:16AM

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MacReady
Interesting. Serge advises people to avoid many fruits for being excessively sweet, yet pineapple is near the top of the fiery list. Likewise, he bangs on endlessly about how evil sugar is, yet honey (which is 80% natural sugar, and sweeter than table sugar), is also at the top of the fiery list.
[www.benefits-of-honey.com]

It's almost enough to make one conclude that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

Correction. Pineapple and honey are near the bottom of the 'fiery' list, not the top. My pranic lower-mind was being impulsed by the Lords Of Form when I wrote that. My bad.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: John lazuras ()
Date: August 23, 2012 06:32AM

Hi All,

The food classifications were developed by "This knowledge is based on the work of and by Serge Benhayon and the Hierarchy - Universal Medicine"

Some more noted on the food groups quoted in their words:

Ginger in esoteric herbs is very beneficial but not as a condiment. Ginger is the scavanger of Prana and cleanses up the excessive maleness in the uterus. For men it works in the lungs.

Rubbing acocado oil on your own belly over the ovaries and uterus helps the body to restore it irons levels. And cinnamon fires up the lymphatic system and is great bridge to the vascular system.

Nutmeg helps the nervous system, also good for endocrine - thyroid - scavenger of toxins > great cleanser.

Garlic won't raise anything below a P5. Nothing and no-one can bastardise Garlic or Chilli. Chilli trees keep entities away.

Some foods don't convert to fire, even if gluten and diary free. The intent of cake is always comfort, same goes for mousse, ice cream and other treats.


See cult followers how are you making your own decisions ....you are not....you do what Serge tells you to do....like what to eat.

I see he has been able to add some sexual meaning to the food groups....be real Serge "cleanses up the excessive maleness in the uterus"........where does your mind go to think up this crap.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: MacReady ()
Date: August 23, 2012 06:52AM

I think this piece is worth reproducing here in full. While the author notes that it is speculative, I think it just may be onto something:

[wordsonsergebenhayon.blogspot.com.au]

"What if" Serge is teaching you to be a Narcissist?

I lent the books to a colleague of mine who is a forensic psychiatrist and from that we had some interesting discussions about the pathology of the condition of the leader of this (and possibly many other) group, as opposed to the so-called philosophy. Again, let me stress, this is speculation as no one has sat down with him and had direct experience of his state of being, however there appears to be much evidence that fits with the following speculations which are none the less quite well informed.

What is a Narcissist?

Narcissism affects about 1% of the population. Like the word cult, it seems like a derogatory term but it is no more so than any other clinical terms, for example ADHD or bi-polar. It describes a certain mental/body dissociative state. The name is derived from the legend of Narcissus who fell in love with his own image- the allegory being that these people are unable to "feel" how they are in the world, and rely on their 'image' as a sense of their place and identity.

The condition arises from trauma's of childhood ( generally) whereby a child form a bond with a parent and there is/maybe some sexualisation of that bond whereby the child feels excited but naturally attempts to deny those feelings. The denial of those feelings commences a process of feeling neutralisation and the person learns how not connect to their 'emotions'. This is compounded when the child becomes a complicit partner with one or both of the parents and is made to feel equal in the relationship and becomes emotionally involved with their states, ideas and problems.They are 'seduced into giving up their sexuality and offered in its place the image of being special'

If the attached parent is suffering from dissociative states themselves and does not know how to express 'love' ( acceptance, encouragement, genuine melting emotion) this can compound the depth the condition. This child can be made to feel both very special and rejected at the same time. Because they are given adult roles, they begin to believe they are god like in their abilities, while at the same time fearing rejection and suppressing feelings. The child can take on the role and ideas of the parent while at the same time later rejecting them as they were rejected themselves.

Naturally, there are varying degrees of Narcissism and it can be accompanied by other conditions. An adult Narcissist may operate quite normally in society and may only suffer from a mild sense of 'disconnection', or they may become pathological, psychotic or grandiose in which case the manifestation may take a different form, such as becoming manipulative, charming, overbearing, controlling, and so forth. Many if not all cult leader suffer from Grandiose Narcissism.

Narcissists are not aware that other people do not experience the world the way they do. They of course believe, as they have no evidence to the contrary, that the people with whom they interact are having the same experience. They are charming, usually like to hug to avoid eye contact, can keenly read how others 'feel' via how they appear ( as they have a sharpened outward sense as a reflection of themselves), intelligent, and often appear generous and warm. When the world is not reflecting according to their idea of themselves, they can be cold, calculating, manipulative, blaming, paranoid, insensitive and tyrannical.
 
Key Symptoms of Grandiose Narcissism.
Suppressing feelings/emotions
Fixation with the body and it's 'feelings' ( or lack thereof)
A sense of Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Omniscience
A desire for people to value them highly or 'worship' them and their ideas
A sense that they will experience special sexuality transcending normal love.
Serge's key ideas:
Emotions are to be avoided. ( they are pranic/not real/creations of the lords of form)
"Livingness" is being 'in your body' ( something he doesn't sense easily as like most narcissists his view of the world is shaped by how he thinks others see him)
He is masterful, has been major historical personages, is able to sense all energy in the universe and move into other dimensions at will.
Most people cannot make love. Serge is capable of making 'true love' because he is masterful.

What is Emotions?
Emotions are a necessary human sense.  It is the ability to sense our internal movements of energy. For example, fear, pity, sadness, happiness, joy, humour, hate, love. There is a sensation within our bodies we can all agree on,  that is a natural and necessary nature of the human condition. Emotions emanate from the body and are experienced in the mind. How we relate to our emotions is our 'emotional life'.

Denying emotion and feeling is a form of psychotic behavior. At its extreme end, people become catatonic. Emotions can be powerful as we all know. A function of wisdom is learning how to temper and use emotions positively, rather than suppressing them.

"Everyone loves, hates, gets angry, sad and frightened. A "Special Person" has be above their body and emotions"

What is Love?
There are many definitions of the word love. However, in the human sense, it is an emotional state of 'tenderness' and 'melting' felt towards someone or sometimes, something. Love involves acceptance, encouragement, subjugation of ones own needs in favour of another, endurance, forgiveness. Physiologically we are more able to do these things when we feel 'love' towards someone.

 It has a real presence as a feeling in the solar plexus and is accompanied by changes in body temperature, circulation, heart rates and pupil dilation. In the case of romantic love between a couple, it is that feeling over simple sexual or genital excitement. Sexual feelings between people who love each other are accompanied b a feeling of 'melting' and 'warmth' rather than simple genital excitement alone.

The notion of Divine or Cosmic love has a natural personification as we are not capable of seeing it any other way. It is impossible to think of a God that does not love us in the first sense of the word. However, as God is a non visible conceptual entity, divine love is often expressed as 'void', above and beyond human love.

Serge's key ideas:
Emotions are hooks that people put into you.
Emotions are 'pranic' or from the life force and are to be avoided, or suppressed.
Love is "without a single ounce of emotion"
Human love is 'lower/animal/carnal'
 Men have sex for release only. Women have sex to be accepted. Most if not all,  people are incapable of making love.
The denial of ( non approved) Art, Music, food,  outside activities and so forth is an extension of this 'denial process'. By learning to deny the everyday, enjoyable and normal, the student learns slowly how to deny themselves what they desire, and eventually their feelings and own emotions.
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It appears, ironically, that Serge is teaching his students how to emulate his state while at the same time developing a sense of his omnipotence through the reflection of their following. 

"Psychotic personalities tend to amass followers....they know all too well how to play on the fear and weaknesses of others...they they proclaim they will be the light and security others seek. In their own minds they hold themselves superior...desperate lost and frightened people turn to the as saviors, creating a flock of followers. The more followers there are, the more 'social proof' and normalisation of the otherwise often fantastic and absurd claims of the narcissist.."

"The sense of Omnipotence are attributes of God which on a deep level psychopathic narcissists see themselves as. Too often their followers see them in that light too".

Serge's Key Idea:
He alone knows the 'energetic truth'- he is leading the world into the New Era and is a representative of a 'Hierarchy'
The vision extends to his family, who are reflective extensions of his own ego. They are 'seers' and incarnation of remarkable individuals.
Serge can 'clear' bad energy, remove 'bad entities'
Serge knows more than everyone, any tradition or discipline.

Serge has fool-proofed his system of thought by declaring emotions and emotional love as 'pranic'. The Student is offered a hypothetical alternative, which is a cosmic love. An ideal that can forever be striven for, but never achieved as only by entering a state of total pscyhosis can one acheive a 'no-emotion' state.
Contrary to other spiritual traditions, which emphasis transcendence over the normal mind, in order so the normal mind may perceive more keenly, Serge's idea is to deny ones feelings and to attempt to 'sense' via a hypothetical organ within the body, 'soulfulness".

What he is really expressing is a personal connection ( and this is most likely his epiphany) to the well of feelings that the average person feels routinely, and paradoxically he is training his students not to acknowledge.

There is no point over speculating on Serge's early life but it would fit that he was brought up by an overly religious parent or parents, that there were abnormal sexual events, a sense of specialness through some complicity with a parent and that he did not achieve goals that he assumed were his natural right. There is a definite overt interest in women's sexuality and bodies in his books and talks and the denial of masculinity which fits with the pathology discussed.

It is unfortunate that the followers of Serge remain unaware that the state of 'clearness' they so desire and they believe he personifies is actually a pathological state most likely requiring treatment. In some ways they will experience inner peace as denial of 'feeling and emotion' will have that effect.

Of course, the price is disconnection from the rich tapestry of life which involves both love and pain. That is how we are forged and wisdom is truly won.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: HerbertKane178 ()
Date: August 23, 2012 07:38AM

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Interesting. Serge advises people to avoid many fruits for being excessively sweet, yet pineapple is near the top of the fiery list. Likewise, he bangs on endlessly about how evil sugar is, yet honey (which is 80% natural sugar, and sweeter than table sugar), is also at the top of the fiery list.
[www.benefits-of-honey.com]

It's almost enough to make one conclude that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

Correction. Pineapple and honey are near the bottom of the 'fiery' list, not the top. My pranic lower-mind was being impulsed by the Lords Of Form when I wrote that. My bad.

They are still on the 'fiery' list though, so one could only assume that they are advocated as 'fiery', and for that read - encouraged.

I'd love to know more about why some meats are fiery - like lamb, and yet others are pranic - chicken, pork etc. I'm seems like the whole thing is wildly random and based on one persons dietary likes and dislikes with a few generally accepted truths thrown in there, like alcohol being not so good for you etc, to make it seem in some way scientific or comprehensive.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: MacReady ()
Date: August 23, 2012 08:07AM

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HerbertKane178

I'd love to know more about why some meats are fiery - like lamb, and yet others are pranic - chicken, pork etc. I'm seems like the whole thing is wildly random and based on one persons dietary likes and dislikes with a few generally accepted truths thrown in there, like alcohol being not so good for you etc, to make it seem in some way scientific or comprehensive.

I'd say you're right. Like most of Serge's mythology, I would suggest much of what gets the UM tick of approval is based on Serge's personal tastes, ie. Elvis Presley's music. Serge is a huge Prince fan, but given the often blatantly sleazy content of his lyrics (and his Jehovah's Witness conversion), I'd say Prince's 'esotericism' would be a hard case to sell.

Certain films with a distinctive 'choice between good and evil' theme are deemed esoteric, too, eg. the Star Wars and Lord of The Rings films. Superman is also claimed to an esoteric 'be all you can be' fable.

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: Eric Dobbs ()
Date: August 23, 2012 08:09AM

Hi Readers, so Serge's meat of choice is LAMB, well isn't that interesting!- Eric

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Re: Universal medicine
Posted by: John lazuras ()
Date: August 23, 2012 08:16AM

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HerbertKane178

I'd love to know more about why some meats are fiery - like lamb, and yet others are pranic - chicken, pork etc. I'm seems like the whole thing is wildly random and based on one persons dietary likes and dislikes with a few generally accepted truths thrown in there, like alcohol being not so good for you etc, to make it seem in some way scientific or comprehensive.

I'd say you're right. Like most of Serge's mythology, I would suggest much of what gets the UM tick of approval is based on Serge's personal tastes, ie. Elvis Presley's music. Serge is a huge Prince fan, but given the often blatantly sleazy content of his lyrics (and his Jehovah's Witness conversion), I'd say Prince's 'esotericism' would be a hard case to sell.

Certain films with a distinctive 'choice between good and evil' theme are deemed esoteric, too, eg. the Star Wars and Lord of The Rings films. Superman is also claimed to an esoteric 'be all you can be' fable.

Thanks MacReady for this information....I was told by a UM cult follower that the Star War movies were very esoteric as the characters have "FEELINGS" in their choices.

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