The trick-or-treaters are beginning to stream toward my house. I guess this is as good a time as any to get rid of my remaining This Weeks. Hope they don't mind. Maybe I'll slip a piece of candy in each one so I don't feel too guilty.
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Onion Wrote: > I also strongly believe that requesting people to > act in a certain way, to tell their stories in a > certain way, to use certain words, to accept blame > for their pasts in a certain way -- are all ways > that resemble the cult we are so thankfully > escaping. A group of individuals responding and > expressing themselves each in his/her own way is
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serving time in That Prison.
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Thanks Onyun.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The abusive and retaliatory nature of the > leadership has made it necessary for many to > employ pseudonyms in order to mitigate any further > damage to themselves or other loved ones. People who follow this forum regularly can probably easily guess the identity of the at least some of the long time poste
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Reepicheep Wrote: > Changedagain, good catch! I googled those two > churches and only their local website showed up in > the search. Those sites said "under construction". > Looks like shady stuff is happening behind the > scenes. Same place, same thing, same people...new > name and new corp? Who would have thought that the 'shady stuff' would cont
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Welcome Liam!
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dirtybrushes Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "In addition, we are reaching out to those > negatively impacted by this behavior, to offer our > apologies as well as counseling with outside > professionals." > > This is a quote from the letter of "apology" on > the TLWF website. > > What an abomination! The
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I noticed on the The Living Word Fellowship website that the Honolulu and Palmer Lake churches are no longer listed in the church directory. What is that about? Should I contact Robert Mueller, or is that taking it too far?
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ohman?, I’m not sure what will happen to THAT > STUDIO. But I suspect Rick already grabbed all > the good gear and microphones before his > resignation. Yes, first things first. I think that was one of the Covey principles.
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TLWF: "Such damaging activity should never take place, period, let alone in any church location, and yet we have received credible reports of such inappropriate behavior for literally decades without doing a damn thing about it." I took the liberty of adding the words in italics to make a bit more truthful.
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"Know that we are taking this very seriously, and we are emboldened that this is the Lord’s church." Your boldness is delusional and your words have zero credibility. It's time to recognize this church, whatever the hell it was meant to be, is a complete disgrace--due to its corrupt, heartless leadership. Get out of the way and let people find a path toward healing. Right now yo
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"We have already removed leaders who have been involved in misconduct or did not call out or sufficiently address such issues." So Gary has been set out? I thought he resigned.
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kbyrne Wrote: > I have a wait-and-see approach to what will happen > next at CLW. For the sake of the people there, I > hope there's a genuine change. Me too. However, I'm certain that Gary won't do anything meaningful unless he feels he has no choice. He lacks any semblance of integrity, so my assumption (based on his long history of power trips) is that he wil
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes. Download her letters, at least. I suspect > the FB police will delete Shalom’s post. Yes
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I_woke_up Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Heads up! Just as a precaution start print > screening Shalom’s thread. My Facebook account was > hacked!
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Has anybody looked at FB lately? There are reports > that Gary is saying that this is all HIS idea! He > started the investigation. I wonder how long it is going to take him to discover he has been shielding sexual predators for decades? I hope it is something he can see right away.
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: > Gary Hargrave is a liar. He will do anything to > save his ass. He never gave a shit about you and > neither did Marilyn. That's why I want learn more of the specifics about what it actually means that he and other key ministries are 'resigning.' Will they still be involved in church matters, even though they have resigned their positio
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cloudwatcher: > Thank you, Larry for the years of ringing the bell > and putting yourself out there all these years. > You are awesome for your courage and caring about > every single person who suffers under this. God > got a really bad rap and I know he offers kudos to > you too. Yes.
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reveal Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If I hear one more TLWF leader say "we're on our > faces before the Lord" I'm going to go through the > roof. How about you get off your damn faces, on > your feet and take some action and RESPONSIBILITY! > Prayers are not enough. Yes. If a few of them were on their faces before t
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40yearsin2016 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reading Shalom's FB page... kudos kid... you've > done something my generation was never able to do > - you've shined the light... Those of us who > still have some kind of faith are praying for a > prompt and decisive termination, others like me > are crossing just their fing
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The only prayer taking place among TLW leadership > is how can they possibly avoid legal prosecution.
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There is no need to pray about something when you already know the truth. (probably not good enough to be a 'Kingdom Proverb')
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Note: in the last 24 hours, there have been 3500 > views of this LW thread on the RR forum. This level of public exposure has to be a nightmare for TLWF leadership. I'm certain that behind the scenes they are not praying about whether these allegations are true. They know they are. They're plottin
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aroe Wrote: > Reading this, I’m guessing a lot more people are > being ordained in TLWF right now. Although > clergy-penitent privilege never stopped a > congregant’s personal and private information from > being shouted from the pulpit until it was > necessary to cover for Rick’s disgusting behavior. Yes. Victims: STFU or we will smear you. Perpetrators: We will
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Are those who sought counseling due to Rick's transgressions not wanting the nature of their complaint(s) against him being exposed? Or is the ministries that received this 'confession' not wanting people to be aware of what information they were privy to all these years? What is the intent of this 'clergy/penitent privilege?' Is it really meant to shield the ministry
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kBOY Wrote: > In today's climate of exposure of things long > hidden, they are definitely on the run and headed > for the cliff they always thought they could keep > at a safe distance. If Gary and Matt were not aware of this predatory behavior taking place in their midst for over 30 years, than they should go down as the least perceptive 'prophets of God' in
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > REVISED *UNOFFICIAL* STATEMENT from APCO to > TLWF: > > > * Still working on how to spin the 360 > degree process > * Trying to hide the fact that 'ministry-training' > had everything to do with nepotism and large > offering donors > * Concluded this week we are in deep sh*t
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changedagain Wrote: > -March 8, 1982 > Birth of Donna Hargrave oops--big error. Dawn Hargrave. I blame my non-existent copy editor for this mistake!
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > KBoy says: > > "No matter how glorious the 'word' extrapolated > from the scriptures, it will never be enough to > offset the actions of lives lived in contradiction > to it." > > In a word my friend, says it all. That captures it.
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