Tmason Wrote: > As a survivor of this cults abuse I too want to > see some accountability. > I would also caution that it is at exactly moments > such as this that those seeking "justice" for > their cause can unintentionally morph into a blood > thirsty mob. > There is a difference between revenge and justice > and I advocate for the later. Point w
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that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Changedagain: > > To date there has been close to 600,000 page > views of the discussion that takes place here. > Obviously, our effort is not inconsequential. > > Shalom knew enough about this forum to also post > her open letter here. So many of the kids have > reference
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Kboy wrote: > > (A special thanks to the RR Forum for providing > a > > sanctuary where voices could be heard apart > from > > the double-speak and spin so familiar to us all > > from the oppression we are leaving behind.)
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Meanwhile, keep it going on Shalom's page and here. Good things are happening.
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> In case anyone missed it. It bears repeating. > Shalom's loving friends set up a new website. To > share our stories. Without being put down, > ridiculed, or judged by tongue wagers. > > Check it out. Ourstoriestlw.com. A few have had > problems signing on. Be patient. They can be > reached at our.stories
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To date there has been close to 600,000 page views of the discussion that takes place here. Obviously, our effort is not inconsequential.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We are in the early stages of anarchy, when a > government implodes, and there is no organized > effort ready to step in and 'govern'. No one was > ready for how swift these developments would > unfold, nor the enormous extent of the damages. > > Apparently, efforts are underway by vario
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The organization has imploded and those devastated will need help in finding a path toward recovery. This forum can help, but since the psychological wounds are so deep, the path toward recovery will almost certainly need to involve professional therapy over many years. In an ideal world this would be paid for by the abusers and principal enablers (Rick, Scott, Gary etc.). I'm hopeful that
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puddington Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Even though they turned their backs to me when I > left. Thank God for this forum as an important > source of testimony for these loved ones. Yes
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > I think I thanked Anon for a post written by > > Blowout. But what the hell, thanks to everyone > who > > posts here and who continue to have one > another's > > back. > > Thanks Kboy.
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think I thanked Anon for a post written by > Blowout. But what the hell, thanks to everyone who > posts here and who continue to have one another's > back. Thanks Kboy.
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'God Wears a Hawaiian Shirt At least One Size Too Big' (not really catchy...will continue to work on it)
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p.s. thanks for recently revealing the identity of Kboy. I was telling my wife just last week that I thought I knew who it was, and she gave me her usual response ('you don't know sh*t'). Now I can gloat for a few minutes or so :)
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that little red flag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > CHANGEAGAIN > > Possible book titles: > 'Excluded From Leadership' > 'Not Given An Answer' > 'Where are We Hiding the Money?' > 'God Wears a Hawaiian Shirt' > > I vote for God Wears a Hawaiian Shirt Yes, that is the one I am leanin
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Anon30000ft Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I so believe that, > > Lisa has stated on many occasions that she “was > excluded form every meeting with leadership.” > > Lisa also states that, > > “When I asked I was not given an answer.” “And > when I said to Becky/Steve and the rest of > leadership that I wanted to be inc
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Cloudwatcher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > ON the FB thread, it is said that this is > Dawn--Hargrave's daughter. Anyone know? > > > > It seems to me that the lawsuits for victims of > what we have heard is a shoe-in. Yes, that is her.
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Reepicheep Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > denisewallerlaughlin, > > Did you post at the end or after someone else's > reply? Having trouble finding it. Your story is so > important. I haven't been able to find it either, Reep.
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denisewallerlaughlin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just wrote a message on Shalom's FB about so > many of us young women that were sexually > assaulted by JRS's first round of buddies. I hope > those that want to speak out DO Finally a safe > landing at least. Hopefully moving beyond fear > and starting lawsuits at best. Y
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Onion: "I have more to add on the very crucial focus to: FOLLOW THE MONEY. I've talked on the forum about how I used to be a lawyer but I also used to be the head of accounting for many years. I know a lot. I have a lot to say. I have a lot I can prove. I have a lot of ideas on where to look. I will share some of this info soon -" GOOD
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Slippery Gary--best to assume that whatever he does has his own interests first and foremost. We saw it with his phony, nebulous apology (for PR purposes) and now in what appears to be the dissolution of TLWF...which still doesn't answer the question of who controls the remaining assets, obviously his primary concern (well, after escaping the long arm of the law). Anyway, he's a skil
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But APCO is the governing entity controlled by GH. > Did they say ApCo is closing? All the churches > must change their Articles and Bylaws to make this > effective and that requires written authorization > from ApCo. We need further disclosure (imho). Yes
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I bet at least a few of the old Factnet posters, assuming they're still around, would be pleased to see the recent developments which have finally exposed the sordid practices & hypocrisy of TLWF leadership. Of course, I know Larry and Paleface are still here going strong. I have attempted to contact Lamp from Ikea, but have heard nothing back. Perhaps there are sales at Ikea I am not a
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Again, not surprised. No one in TLWF leadership seems to have known about the abuse that went on for decades in their midst. Now they're so graciously willing to help the traumatized. Anyway, I hope the Holy Spirit has been able to communicate with Gary, assisting him with his memory. But as many have said in this forum, I am not holding my breath. #fauxremorse
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> Leilani Potter To: Shalom From: Leilani "I truly and honestly do not believe that was me. If I knew of your attack, I would have protected you and reported it. I’m crushed I didn’t know what happened to you then. But I am here to support you now."
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Oh My. That wasn't too convincing.
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Too bad back in the day no one had the foresight to suggest this as a possible Kingdom Business: 'Scandal Moving Company.' Disregard this comment.
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He is a master at manipulation, I grant him that. I'm sure somewhere tonight in TLWFland wounded sheep are crying out for God's mercy.
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Holy Spirit: How many times do I have to tell you to get rid of Rick? He's harming people over and over and over again. Are you deaf to my still soft voice? Gary: What?
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My initial reaction to the big 'apology': Gary, Asking the Lord to forgive your sins, without admitting specifically what they are (and you know), is not going to cut it. Start with admitting the fact that you covered up the actions of a prolific sexual predator for decades--rebuffing those who advised you to remove him from the ministry. The onus can no longer be on the people to
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Wait, nevermind. I just remembered the scripture (below). I can't do that to them--simply too cruel. "If anyone causes one of these little ones to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea." Matthew 18:6
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