hey, changed again any chance i can get raw goat milk instead of the lemonade as i am allergic to lemons and tweedle-e-dums?
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a character with an x- rating? sounds much worse than b+ or f sharp. healthy and happy healing wishes to all the merries, in whatever form/s. btw - the caboose is really cool, mostly quiet with a rather odd music mix in the background of the brandenburg concertos, stairway to heaven, take five and pipeline, sometimes all playing at the same time! alert, if one is hungry, byof
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thanks kboy for the the pass but frankly, re the homeless man, i did what i "could do", but not all i could have done. clear and simple. but most of us, do the same. dietrich b. was a rare and different breed. he did in his life what i did not do with respect to the homeless man. he went the extra mile, he walked christian tenets to the absolute
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completely unrelated to lw/shiloh conversation, cults,etc. a few days ago, a man, bedraggled, white, perhaps mid 40's was passing by on the sidewalk outside my store wearing torn garments, a ragged beard and hair, a staggered gait, gesticulating with his arms and hands, likely in response to the voices inside his head. i presumed that he was likely schizophrenic judging by his behavior. an
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onion, i need the caboose. to afford myself the luxury to, temporarily, go to the back of this steam rolling train of the multiple merries, for a season of respite and attention to the very present needs of my current life. will you grant me a day napping in the caboose, maybe even 2 or 3?
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little red flag, you've a cat that sleeps much and likes warmth (you failed to mention self-indulgence), how novel! btw, for those of you who may be disturbed about cat chat given the givens about the very serious issues of lw/shiloh leaderships' perceived/real transgressions, i suggest this. radio talk shows are dominated by the right wing whereas tv night shows seem to be domina
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kboy, any chance do you think i will be elevated from the watch list to the hit list? i have been recently wondering about this given some of my acerbic comments about gh and minions. as a result, i have increased my defenses, the foremost of which being to remove my magic wand from its dust covered box and transform my cat, fuzzball, into a miniature trex, keeping in place fuzzball's a
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recently, i alerted a couple of former lw/shiloh members about this site, and in particular this forum. long removed from lw/shiloh, they were nevertheless dismayed and disgusted at the revelations posted here. perhaps, in retrospect, they are not at all surprised. those who have posted their own histories, some in detailed fashion, have done so accompanied by pain, emotional distress and in s
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so i won't be doing my third post this evening re g hargrave. maybe best as i have never known him personally. please tell who he is, who he was if different from who he is now, is/was a man of god. i cannot imagine to ever have held him in any esteem, but rather disgust. a user and one being used
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to kboy's suggestion that i not beat about the bush, truth is is that i am not privy to any information about hargrave and holbrook apart from what i have read on this forum or in public news articles. my comment regarding those 2 individuals is purely conjecture based on, what i believe, a natural progression of unfolding events and information. my sense is that nothing is likely to bring
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to lone wolf and changedagain, to me, one of the central tenets in christianity is the notion of forgiveness. i am not at all privy to why those who reached out to you did so. truly, perhaps a ploy to get information from you that otherwise you would be reluctant to provide or, as was proposed, to ease their conscience so to sleep better at night. or is it possible that they, as no doubt some
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i have read many posts over the past week or so that invite a response, albeit not explicitly, from me. that i have chosen not to do so (the previous post,by nancy b, being a prime example) should not be taken as my being dismissive. i have for so long been not tethered to the lw church that i am reluctant to get into the minutiae of every story posted. that should not be taken that i do not r
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a few days before easter in 2017 i entertained the notion to visit shiloh for the sunday morning passover/easter service. i called shiloh to ask about the service's time and whether or not i would be welcome to attend. i recollect, but perhaps inaccurately, that i spoke with chuck rogness and was assured that i was most welcome. and as it turned out, that was exactly the case. prior to t
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greetings all, so much to follow, so much to learn still and my need to post responses directed to me, of late, by participants on this forum. one of my 2 concerns that i expressed very early in my own participation on this forum was that i might spend an inordinate amount of my time here. last night i did just that but hopefully to some benefit for some of the the readers of the previous ev
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to gary hargrave, i have posted a several posts on this forum. those who have read my posts know that i am no longer a christian nor even a deist. i have no intention of attempting to persuade anyone to my way of understanding life. but i wish to alert readers on this forum that while i was a professing christian and afterwards i was informed of many beautiful concepts and ways to perform l
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additionally, for some of you that have been complicit in the hargrave and minions ruse, there are several ways out for you. the easiest, is just to go dormant. certainly, perhaps the most easy in the short term but what about in the long term? when the shit hits the fans, and let me tell the blades are spinning. imagine (at this point, one doesn't need much imagination) holbrook is charg
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i invoked the name of dietrich b., a hero in my book. he publicly stood up to tyranny and paid the ultimate price. he is one of my heroes, which he is. should i not do the same? he was very public so i shall be. my name is paul young, i live in iowa city and own a store called sweet livin' antiques (aka, prettyboy - thank you F sharp). i believe in the moral integrity of the merries.
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one other thing, gary hargrave is, in my opinion, is the antithesis of dietrich
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as i began the previous post,the examples i used employed their respective ideologies to give credence and "moral integrity" to their actions regardless of egregious affronts to normal human behavior. and now back to dietrich and how i believe this ties to the sense of moral integrity and gary hargrave (ah, goodness, you were hoping i would get around to SOMETHING). dietrich was an ou
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how does one define one's moral integrity? for the taliban,it's to throw acid on the face of detractors; for isis, to post public beheadings; for the roman church centuries ago, to burn at the stake those who committed the grave crime of publishing the scriptures in their home language and not latin; scientologists, stalinists, nazis, republicans in the early days of watergate era, and
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little red flag. you wish to talk with me yes? but how given I am not on facebook although I've an unused, defunct acct. please find a way and I think marci can show you the way.
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to the little red flag, I so wish I could sit in the company of you and the merries, relegating only a short time to hargrave and his hopeful derailing, which I believe is unlikely but certainly preferred and then switch to those common bonds which unite us, which enlighten us, which inform us and most importantly delight us. I've multiple friends in my current life who've no knowledge
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forgiveness, for me that was the greatest attraction to the Christian religion as a young man. not only to ask for forgiveness but to extend forgiveness. perhaps one of the most difficult aspects of forgiveness is to forgive oneself - is there some scripture that addresses that? for some of you on this forum, whether acknowledged or not , is the need to forgive yourselves - for being duped, t
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throughout the course of recorded history, depots and despotic regimes have always needed a scapegoat. hitler and his minions focused on jews, communists, gypsies and others - and they pulled it off ultimately resulting in ww2 with the cost of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, added to those, the expense required for articles of destruction and that which was destroyed. the costliest
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absolutely, we are good and I thank those of you who provided, today, feedback to some of my more recent comments. regarding my comment/s about bitterness and its effects my intent was to encourage y'all to not let bitterness over the losses you have suffered and the abuses you have endured, for some decades long, to consume your lives to such a point that the gift of life, of living and r
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marci mc, what a trip! aw shucks gave myself away to y'all with mentioning ticks ass. you probably also detected a drawl in my typing - a dead give away every time. I do not know how to open conversations with you other than here since I am not on facebook but if you remember my name I am sure, with your vast detecting skills, you will be able to track me down. sorry I missed y
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can a temporary injunction by the Washington county attorney's office to put a hold on the mentioned property's sale be an option? interestingly enough, I heard about the land sale possibility last week from someone who has no association with lw/Shiloh! that was before I ever read any of this site's posts. kboy, thanks for informing me of the pushback. I hope your and the
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marci, hi..yep that's me. frank's former roommate on f street in Encinitas. how are you doing?
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hi lone wolf, I have stayed up a bit longer than usual waiting to see were there any posts responding to my last one. I actually never "knew" Anthony cox other than being phil Holman. I believe you are correct that his wife went by first name of Melinda. if memory serves me correctly (and it may not 100%) she was from a somewhat wealthy and/or influential Houston family and may h
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to kboy. steve and Barbara Corbett were dear friends to me and I miss their company. given that I am not on facebook and if they are, I have no contact with them. I last saw them I the spring of 2004 and it has been a long time since we last spoke. if you have any contact with them will you please tell them hello and extend my affections to them. john sayer - sad to say I brought him into
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