Posted by: that little red flag Date: November 28, 2018 10:19PM I haven't been around at the local SD church for almost 5 years, but they had the apartment there (the Taco Shell). At some point I was involved in cleaning and set up for 2 - 3 years, and involved in getting all the new furniture and decor at one time. One of the times, years ago before the remodel, was so ridiculous. Someo
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Changedagain wrote: And yet, some will live out their lives convinced that 'The Apostle' spoke a "word from God," was laying the foundation for the Kingdom age, and was motivated by a consuming love for God's people. Those who had personal encounters with him as lowly 'sheep,' however, tended to think otherwise. A couple posts from FoolMeTwice...suggests that
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changedagain Wrote: -------------------------------------------- Our Survival Is Based On Obedience June 29, 2018 - by Gary Hargrave "This Word shows us that as we move out of a place of relative safety in our walk with God and into harm’s way, our obedience to the Father will determine life or death. We will face lies about the Word of God and against the Father Himself which w
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Twoteetwo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I want to apologize to everyone for extolling the virtues of deceased Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias on this thread in May, and for holding him up as a counterpoint to John Stevens. Apparently he, like John, was a charismatic sexual predator, and also like John, was protected in that role by those closest to him. Maybe
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I'd rather be a Jezebel than a JRS or a GH or an MH. Also, obedience is highly overrated.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion wrote: > My cousin in Iowa shared with me that the > English River offshoot of Shiloh, had an email > from Steve Seboldt (which was read aloud in their > Zoom service) where he said TLW is moving to > Georgia. He also said the TLW properties in > California are all up for sale. He also
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Now we rise up as one As warhorses we run We are (judging?) everything that comes against us. Something, something, blood and guts (just kidding). And we won't hesitate to seal the enemy's fate We are jealous for the name of Jehovah And there's no sympathy for the evil we see We are jealous for the name of Jehovah. Yes, we're jealous for the name of Jehovah! OMG!
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for sharing, Reep. I was snapping my > fingers as I was reading it. > Catchy lyrics! > I can't recall after singing this song whether we > often broke into singing in the spirit. I'll > assume we did. Lol!
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The previous song sung to Heartbreak Hotel tune. Or this, sung to We Will Rock You (I forgot a few words.) Jezebel the harlot (breathes?) no more The sons of God will kill the whore You got blood on your face, you big disgrace Spreading your (lies?) all over the place We will, we will judge you (judge you). We will, we will judge you (judge you).
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How about... Jezebel the harlot Queen of Babylon.... (forgot this verse) Throw her from the tower To the streets below And let the dogs devour her bones And reap just what she's sowed. Because, she's been so wicked baby She's been so wicked now She's been so wicked She's gonna die. Wonderful memories of lovely seventies "worship" services. :
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Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens new Posted by: changedagain () Date: December 30, 2020 08:51AM Back then, I suppose I was "religious" in the sense that I would prefer ministry from a sober pastor rather than a drunk (i.e. sh*tfaced) pastor. Today, of course, I would never seek guidance from a religious "authority"--drunk or sober. ********
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So well said, Reveal. You knocked it out of the park. Thanks for re-posting, changed again. "Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: December 27, 2020 10:43AM A post by 'reveal' that captures the heartlessness of the organization that was TLWF: Posted by: reveal Date: September 01, 2018 09:52AM Let's just as
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Changed, Intense posts leading up to Shalom's FB exposé a little over two years ago. I imagine that since then, most people have realized that G&M did indeed know everything that went on and regularly orchestrated the cover ups. They didn't want to fix anything. They only wanted to know who knew what. It was a long-standing pattern over the years, beginning with "the apostle to
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typer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > At least rick holbrook fathered no children. Is > this correct? No. He has a daughter with wife #3 and a son with wife #4.
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Posted by: kBOY () Date: November 20, 2020 05:18PM R E E P When one is in a cult, the last thing one studies are 'cults'. For that matter, when one is in a Christian cult, the last thing one reads is the Bible, except for a devout few. We were fully indoctrinated with JRS' emphasis (then G&M's guilt-trip), attending a ridiculous number of services for those in
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Posted by: fromsouthchicago () Date: November 19, 2020 11:43PM If you want to know the truth, I called Marilyn "evil" in the flesh. Along with variety of other choice descriptions. I'm not sure I'll ever understand what it was that resulted her being so twisted and power hungry. And her off-spring, Rick, my first cousin once removed. What turned him into such a monster?
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Excellent post, fromsouthchicago. Thanks for > weighing in. > > I have a reasonably good idea what of the awful > things that many of you have experienced at the > hands of my cousin Marilyn (and other relatives of > mine as well.) For that I am truly sorry. > > Thank you for parti
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fromsouthchicago Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: fromsouthchicago () Date: November 18, 2020 02:23PM I concur, this posting was "dead on" topic. (In fact this story brought me back to this forum after a long hiatus.) Allow me to elaborate. The dying patients that the SD nurse (Jodi) who were denying that they had COVID-19 were demonstra
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Nice to hear from you Tmason. I sent you a PM.
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Dear Wasted and KSargent, Thank you so much for sharing a little bit of your stories. I hope that you will both keep on sharing. Together we are strong. <3
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Hard to believe that it's been two years today since Shalom posted her story and letters and they went viral. Still, there's lots of work to do. Lies to be exposed, people to be held accountable. Here's to survivors.
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CARe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Hopefully this link works for a video taken from a drone of the burn. Wow! Awesome video CARe. Thank you for sharing.
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But, hey. I just remembered...the upper room and JRS' apartment are gone too. We're free, CARe. Let freedom ring!
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CARe, I remember Marilyn selling those bras in the Valley in the sixties. That's all I will say about that, except....EWWWW! You wrote, "I worked at the switchboard a lot my last 2 years of HS and at that time all the calls went through the switchboard. Consequently I transferred calls regularly from MH (JRS's apt) to Phyllis or Moreen. Sometimes I would briefly wonder why she w
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Post by reveal from August of 2018: Posted by: reveal Date: August 18, 2018 05:37AM "I tried going to therapy but it was hard to get anywhere when I knew if I told the truth about my situation IT WOULD SOUND LIKE I WAS IN A CULT. I literally remember thinking that." Thanks for re-posting Changed. An
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The sheer vindictiveness of G&M continues > to astound me. They were so efficient at > publically presenting themselves as something > completely the opposite, we in the cheap seats, > knew little or nothing about what degenerates they > actually were. > > Too bad there wasn't a '
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Andre the Nephilim Hairdresser? Yes, that one. Sounds like a Randy Rainbow song. Lol.
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TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Something doesn't seem quite right about paying > > only $750 in taxes, while writing off $72,000 > for > > hairstyling. Perhaps it is just my "carnal > mind" > > undermining my fait
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reep: > Yes, I remember the wedding trail. G&M always > acted like royalty...or cult leaders! I wish that > we had all been aware of Gary and Marilyn's true > relationship while JRS was dying. That would have > blown a lot of people out...if we would have > believed it, that is. &g
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion wrote: > I just tried to look up info of the Palmer Lake > facility burning but all I found was a Palmer > Lake, Washington fire. > > Fact check needed. Anyone know? > > I haven't heard anything along those lines. Onion. Changed and Onion, I believe that the Palmer Lake
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