Thanks, Onion. Good info.
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Imapurple Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That was a weird day at Kling. The first of many > weddings! Hey! Just like Rick!and now let’s travel > through all the church’s and cash in! Gifts, money > , praise! All on the backs of “ The little people > “ Such a bunch of BS! Well what comes around goes > around. Ricks life is in ruins The lam
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Posted by: Reepicheep () Date: May 22, 2020 12:51AM kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “Collateral damage” is not necessarily a > resume enhancement for one seeking to reboot a new > world-wide 'misery', aka, Jerusalem Center, > featuring a G-man on the r u n . . . Good point, kBOY! Possible Gary Hargrave resume: "I spec
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Grew up in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood > in Indio...close to the railroad tracks. (Adobe > Road) > My parents got divorced when I was 12, and my Mom > raised her 4 kids while working as a school > teacher. > First summer job: McDonalds > Second summer job: working in Coachella
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Well, no one could accuse most of us of being apolitical. The cult inculcated us into a very conservative mindset, including JRS occasionally distributing material from the John Birch Society to members during church meetings. I even remember him saying from the pulpit that if George McGovern (D) was elected president in 1972, that the world would be plunged into a thousand years of dark ages. (N
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A FANTASTIC STORY > > ". . .the vision JRS allegedly had in 1972 > seeing 7 years into the Kingdom. . ." > > Two things here: > > First, this completely explains all the 'warfare' > JRS claimed to be under all those years, which was > really the guilt of having foi
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > H O L Y J I M C A N Y O N -- Part Two > > > (Posted by LONE.WOLF) > > 1. Gary saw the Lord huddled in a corner of his > home, and he said it was the first time he’d seen > him in his physical being. This happened a couple > nights before Marilyn’s passing if I remember > correctly.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I do remember being at a summer camp in 1968 > when JRS was prophesying over Marilyn (after a > night service, when most people had left the > building). He said that she would no longer be > called Marilyn, but would now be called > Miriam. Marilyn was a lot of people, wasn't > she? &
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone remember when Marilyn first lay claim > to being Queen Esther or even being "like" a queen > Esther? I don't remember it starting while JRS > was still alive. > > Or when did the churches started celebrating Purim > so wildly? > > In my memory, it started after
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- A summary of a message Gary brought some months before the exposure of years of sexual abuse within TLWF (and its coverup) went public. It would be reasonable to assume this is a veiled threat toward those who believe the "lies"...implying that God will remove the "covering from their lives, " which
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > * * * T R A M P  o f  I S R A E L * * * > > > We may have a POTUS who claims many things, > but we need look no further than our own 'Lamp > of Israel'--better known in some circles as > the TRAMP of ISRAEL. > > When we now survey the vast landscape of > destruction that the
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Lilith wrote: _______________________________________________________ “We often don’t speak up because we don’t want to appear rude, or make the other person uncomfortable, or be seen as someone who causes trouble, or someone who has no ‘sense of humor’ or whatever lame societal excuses we use.” changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- The fear of rej
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I can relate to light777's story. Although I only saw glimpses of behavior that seemed unchristian and not right to me, just reading this account is bringing up years of anger and what I thought was "rebellion" in me. Now I know that it was my gut feeling or instinct screaming to be heard. And all that time I thought it was my carnal mind showing enmity against God. I was battling
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Good links--thanks for sharing. > > "Deference to authorities can occur in a mindless > fashion as a kind of decision-making shortcut. > When reacting to authority in an automatic fashion > there is a tendency to often do so in response to > the mere symbols of authority rather than &
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I'm assuming that there will be attempts to contact people in this group privately by those associated with the defendants in the cases that have been mentioned. My admonition is to be careful who you trust, and what you choose to reveal. Lilith Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- My
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > G&M just wanted people to write down their sins > and nail them to a cross. > > Didn't someone collect all the sins and offer to > sell them to the highest bidder? Yes. Rick and his buddies. They "joked" about it.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > C H A N G E D > > RE: Right Spirit > > Calling BS on the same was something > Jesus (Y'shua) did on occasion, especially > when confronting the hypocrisy of the religious > authorities of his day. This did not make him > extremely popular, and was probably viewed as > someone hav
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Discussion group stats: > > Comments: 11,500 > Page Views: 2,060,344 > Right Spirits: 0 Especially in the leadership... ; )
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Lilith wrote: _________________ "...We were victims of incompetent, reckless, cruel and greedy people that were out to wreck our minds, our families, our futures and our health." Yes! Pushing only certain people (whether within or from outside of the group) was a persistent practice. Were they getting kickbacks from the quacks they promoted who were not part of the church? Those
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Lilith Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- That is true. I guess that we are still expected to believe that we were imagining it. I am not a whimsical person, my imagination doesn't actually stretch that far. Repeat after me: COG-NI-TIVE DIS-SO-NANCE Once you see the crazy, you can't unsee it.
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Lilith Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's a new day so that means another new lawsuit > and a brand new church for Hargrave. Now the > former or perhaps current leadership, we have no > way of truly knowing, will being to appear in > other discussion fora or perhaps this very forum > feigning repentance in search of those that remai
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It's really quite telling that Gary Hargrave, formerly "Apostolic Fathering Ministry" of The Living Word Fellowship, now simply of "Hargrave Ministries", is deleting the comments of his former congregants/slaves as quickly as they are posted. He probably isn't doing that himself. He probably has "people"/slave labor for such things. I hope those slave peopl
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Bill Hart was glittery too? He wasn't when he was part of the Valley church. Mahesh sure was, though. Trickery and chicanery.
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > For all the adoration Marilyn wished to > have heaped upon herself, as well as wanting to be > called 'mother', she comported herself more like a > tramp than a 'lamp'. > > JRS, for his part, knew full well what he > was getting himself into by the time they got > married, a
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Thanks, Onion. Blood diamonds...had to look it up. WTF? JRS was quite a piece of work. Silver/gold mines, complete with his very own slave labor (including children), blood diamonds, bars of gold and silver... Then G&M and RH and crew tkicked it up to a whole unearthly level. They all make me sick.
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: Onion () Date: August 05, 2020 01:22PM In light of the new Gary Hargrave presence on facebook, twitter, and his Promised (threatened) podcast and website - it would be great when you are reposting old posts if you would start reposting some of my old posts. I was a first hand witness to a lot and Gary's n
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One of his projects: > Yad Eliezer Food Box Program - Feeding the > poor and breaking the cycle of poverty in Israel. > > > This new concern for the poor indicates a > remarkable transformation from the person > Imapurple routinely encountered while in The > Living Word fellowshi
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TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > walknntalkn Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Look who's got a shiny new website: > > > Whoever had "Zionist podcaster" on your bingo > > card, please collect your winnings! > > > > 9018 Balboa Blvd. is a UPS Store, by the w
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The web site is slickly done...and it presents an > image of himself that that is completely opposite > of what he really is...but those who endured 35+ > years of his fraudulent "ministry" should not be > surprised by this. Fortunately for him, he has > ample financial resources that
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walknntalkn Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Look who's got a shiny new website: > > > Whoever had "Zionist podcaster" on your bingo > card, please collect your winnings! > > 9018 Balboa Blvd. is a UPS Store, by the way. I > wonder who he sends to pick up the checks? Wow! Thanks for posting, walkntalkn. If you c
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