changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This post by 'fool me twice' from March of 2019 > which mentions an encounter she had with the > 'Apostle of love': > > Posted by: fool me twice > Date: March 23, 2019 10:57AM > > Onion wrote: > Fool me twice: How many hours did you work to > earn that whopp
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There's a lot pain and a lot of power in these posts about becoming free after years of submitting to "authority". As a teenager in The Walk, I was told stories about the death and destruction that awaited those who rebelled. If God didn't kill you in a fiery crash, you faced a failed, miserable life of knowing that you were not fit for the kingdom of their god. You would los
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “Collateral damage” is not necessarily a > resume enhancement for one seeking to reboot a new > world-wide 'misery', aka, Jerusalem Center, > featuring a G-man on the r u n . . . Good point, kBOY! Possible Gary Hargrave resume: I specialize in collateral damage. In fact, I feel that I am best qu
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Gary’s response “We don’t need to change > anything. This is just collateral damage in the > battle for the kingdom. There’s always going to be > casualties.” > > I wonder if his attitude would have been different > if it was his life being ruined by the > gross negligence of those whos
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An interesting post regarding the shepherding requirements in TLWF. People were hurt. JRS and G&M were culpable. They knew of situations and wrongdoing. They did not report it to the proper authorities and even participated in cover ups. Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: puddington () Date: May 06, 2018 12:24PM There was one situation of sexual a
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Leahsmiles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I didn't realize older members didn't have an > Elijah....that it was mainly kids makes it even > worse. I did dodge a bullet. I've always been > grateful I didn't go through some of the more > horrible abuses I suspected. I don't know what > tipped the scales against me b
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Leahsmiles wrote: > My foster mom told me there would never be > abuse because each Elijah had his own Elijah in a > chain that reached to the apostles. I thought it > was an idiotic defense then and now. > > Yes, that is idiotic. Especially in light of what > we know now about these &
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Sad re-posts about the San Diego TLWF church by paleface and thisweek. It was all about control. That's one thing all the churches had in common, but some were worse than others. : ( Welcome, Leahsmiles. I was part of TLWF from the late sixties until about ten years ago. I doubt that our paths crossed, but I had lots of experience with that "emotional, mental, and spiritual abuse&qu
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Changed, you find great posts that really need to be seen again. Thanks! BTW, you posted this at 8:28am and dbc posted at 8:28 pm. Do you plan these odd coincidences?
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Post by dbc from November of 2018: > > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Robert Stevens > Posted by: dbc () > Date: November 02, 2018 08:28PM > > Let’s not forget the origins of this group. It was > meant to be the restoration of apostolic > authority. Inherent i
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Changed4me wrote on July 30, 2013 10:19AM: "One day we saw John and Marilyn parked on a secluded street... it looked like they were just talking. The guy I was with told me this was not the first time he had seen them together in that area. He explained to me that John needed the time away from Martha in order to work on sermons. This guy is the first person to tell me that Martha was a N
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hope everyone is doing what they can to stay safe > during this pandemic, knowing full well they no > longer have a covering. > -Danny Downer Oh so glad NOT to have a designated relationship, covering, shepherd, apostle, or anything remotely silmilar. They were their own pandemic.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A post by GSchaef from October 2018 (stop deifying > JRS): > > Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John > Robert Stevens > Posted by: GSchaeff > Date: October 28, 2018 11:32AM > > For any new visitors to this forum, one thought > I'd like to dispel is that this type
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Imapurple, thank you for sharing your experiences. I wish you continued healing and a normal life from here on. <3
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Note: I had never heard the term 'The Purples' while I was in the Walk/TLWF. Probably because I wasn't supposed to know anything about what it referred to. Me too, Changed. I probably never heard of them because I would NOT have done anything for Marilyn. Only a sicko cult leader would require this o
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SunnyFord Wrote: To me it was always was more about the men. This is another example. They helped when it was the man who was ill... that if I remember correctly John Miller cared about this couple supposedly. I saw this over and over. Was John still there, at that point? I had left TLWF by then. Don't get me started on Bruce Larson. Those they could get things out of, they wined and dine
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > jhorning wrote: > He told me what I did in the past doesn't count > and I couldn't be an elder unless I came up under > him. > > I would point out Walk/TLWF ministries' obsession > with position thinking, but that would indicate > that perhaps I am obsessed with position
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typer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes, I tried position thinking with the puppies > but it didn't work. When I was eating bacon, one > of them sits on his back legs. When they look at > me with their puppy eyes; the next thing I know, > the bacon finds their mouths. It just seems to > always find their eagerly waiting mouths. They
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Looking into the eyes of the Kahuna? Yes, he meant LM. He seemed to be substituting kahuna for nephilim in that instance. It was weird. kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not good to piss off a Bruddah, Bra, especially > one the size of Larry. So sad. Larry spen
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I remember a restricted tape played in a South Gate service...JRS said he realized he was looking into the eyes of the Kahuna. Yeah, it was most likely one of Marilyn's numerous snits. Sigh... P.S. Looking back, he sounded drunk...kind of like how he sounded in The Sleeping Prophecies...
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The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: ben there () Date: February 19, 2007 11:48AM "...I think it was when I started hearing entire groups (like the catholic church, government officials, businesses, etc) 'judged' as being satan in the earth, the whore of babylon, the Nephilim, or whoever the bad guy of the night was...and all sorts of death and
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NancyB Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- For the girls, we were called to be (cringe )'helpmeets'. What manipulation! If examined by a shrink at the time my guess is that we were encouraged to have delusions of grandeur for being so chosen of God. In reality, we were groomed to be used and keep our mouths shut. OOPS! That backfired. some of us "
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That ship has certainly sailed. Plus I have no desire to be compared to King David, who allegedly wrote Psalm 51 after having his friend killed and taking his wife. What a guy. If God called that mess "a right spirit", then I have a quarrel with the Big Guy upstairs (aka God).
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changedagain Wrote: _____________________________ Anyway, everyone stay safe, and let's get through this present plague with our health...maintaining a "right spirit." :) No promises to keep a right spirit, Changed. ; )
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Blowout, I tend to agree with your opinion about religion. I still teeter on the edge of non-religion while yet holding a kernal of faith. I will probably never attend a church again. But I do believe that it is possible to have a personal belief system that is private and does not seek to convince others. To me, that is personal, and not a step towards cult mentality.
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Changed: Great post from GSchaeff. "Current members have suddenly been forced to question their innermost beliefs. These are core beliefs that have been deeply rooted for decades. I never felt more alone than the day I began asking myself those deep questions about TLWF. It is beautiful to see old friends being there for each other; it gives me hope for the future." As we all know
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Jesus stated in his version, "If you have seen me then you have seen the Father" (reference needed), and demonstrated with his life none of the disturbing behaviors mentioned above. Not only that, the Prodigal Parable places the responsibility for our worldly experience directly in our lap, exonerating HEAVEN entir
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I'm sure years ago regular contributors to the forum were labeled as liars, bitter spirits, satanic channels (nephilim) to those who have chosen to support TLWF leaders. Disinformation is a powerful tool...and will be continued to be used by greedy, power-hungry 'ministries'...while they insist that those
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Changed and kBOY, oh my! Where to begin. I'm glad that they are theoretically not meeting during a pandemic, so that's something anyway. The fact that work is being done remotely to continue putting out Hidden Treasures aka ancient JRS sermons, WOW! Gotta keep that money for standing orders coming in. And the Passover links....stale is right. They were already stale before they were spo
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True kBOY. Does anyone know if TLW wordworkers are considered essential workers? I hope not. Because leaders there will use people up and spit them out. They only care about themselves.
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