So well said, Reveal. You knocked it out of the park. Thanks for re-posting, changed again. "Re: The Living Word Fellowship, The Walk, John Robert Stevens Posted by: changedagain () Date: December 27, 2020 10:43AM A post by 'reveal' that captures the heartlessness of the organization that was TLWF: Posted by: reveal Date: September 01, 2018 09:52AM Let's just as
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Changed, Intense posts leading up to Shalom's FB exposé a little over two years ago. I imagine that since then, most people have realized that G&M did indeed know everything that went on and regularly orchestrated the cover ups. They didn't want to fix anything. They only wanted to know who knew what. It was a long-standing pattern over the years, beginning with "the apostle to
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typer Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > At least rick holbrook fathered no children. Is > this correct? No. He has a daughter with wife #3 and a son with wife #4.
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Posted by: kBOY () Date: November 20, 2020 05:18PM R E E P When one is in a cult, the last thing one studies are 'cults'. For that matter, when one is in a Christian cult, the last thing one reads is the Bible, except for a devout few. We were fully indoctrinated with JRS' emphasis (then G&M's guilt-trip), attending a ridiculous number of services for those in
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Posted by: fromsouthchicago () Date: November 19, 2020 11:43PM If you want to know the truth, I called Marilyn "evil" in the flesh. Along with variety of other choice descriptions. I'm not sure I'll ever understand what it was that resulted her being so twisted and power hungry. And her off-spring, Rick, my first cousin once removed. What turned him into such a monster?
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Excellent post, fromsouthchicago. Thanks for > weighing in. > > I have a reasonably good idea what of the awful > things that many of you have experienced at the > hands of my cousin Marilyn (and other relatives of > mine as well.) For that I am truly sorry. > > Thank you for parti
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fromsouthchicago Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Posted by: fromsouthchicago () Date: November 18, 2020 02:23PM I concur, this posting was "dead on" topic. (In fact this story brought me back to this forum after a long hiatus.) Allow me to elaborate. The dying patients that the SD nurse (Jodi) who were denying that they had COVID-19 were demonstra
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Nice to hear from you Tmason. I sent you a PM.
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Dear Wasted and KSargent, Thank you so much for sharing a little bit of your stories. I hope that you will both keep on sharing. Together we are strong. <3
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Hard to believe that it's been two years today since Shalom posted her story and letters and they went viral. Still, there's lots of work to do. Lies to be exposed, people to be held accountable. Here's to survivors.
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CARe Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Hopefully this link works for a video taken from a drone of the burn. Wow! Awesome video CARe. Thank you for sharing.
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But, hey. I just remembered...the upper room and JRS' apartment are gone too. We're free, CARe. Let freedom ring!
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CARe, I remember Marilyn selling those bras in the Valley in the sixties. That's all I will say about that, except....EWWWW! You wrote, "I worked at the switchboard a lot my last 2 years of HS and at that time all the calls went through the switchboard. Consequently I transferred calls regularly from MH (JRS's apt) to Phyllis or Moreen. Sometimes I would briefly wonder why she w
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Post by reveal from August of 2018: Posted by: reveal Date: August 18, 2018 05:37AM "I tried going to therapy but it was hard to get anywhere when I knew if I told the truth about my situation IT WOULD SOUND LIKE I WAS IN A CULT. I literally remember thinking that." Thanks for re-posting Changed. An
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The sheer vindictiveness of G&M continues > to astound me. They were so efficient at > publically presenting themselves as something > completely the opposite, we in the cheap seats, > knew little or nothing about what degenerates they > actually were. > > Too bad there wasn't a '
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Andre the Nephilim Hairdresser? Yes, that one. Sounds like a Randy Rainbow song. Lol.
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TheJewel Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > changedagain Wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------- > > Something doesn't seem quite right about paying > > only $750 in taxes, while writing off $72,000 > for > > hairstyling. Perhaps it is just my "carnal > mind" > > undermining my fait
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reep: > Yes, I remember the wedding trail. G&M always > acted like royalty...or cult leaders! I wish that > we had all been aware of Gary and Marilyn's true > relationship while JRS was dying. That would have > blown a lot of people out...if we would have > believed it, that is. &g
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Onion wrote: > I just tried to look up info of the Palmer Lake > facility burning but all I found was a Palmer > Lake, Washington fire. > > Fact check needed. Anyone know? > > I haven't heard anything along those lines. Onion. Changed and Onion, I believe that the Palmer Lake
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Thanks, Onion. Good info.
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Imapurple Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That was a weird day at Kling. The first of many > weddings! Hey! Just like Rick!and now let’s travel > through all the church’s and cash in! Gifts, money > , praise! All on the backs of “ The little people > “ Such a bunch of BS! Well what comes around goes > around. Ricks life is in ruins The lam
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Posted by: Reepicheep () Date: May 22, 2020 12:51AM kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > “Collateral damage” is not necessarily a > resume enhancement for one seeking to reboot a new > world-wide 'misery', aka, Jerusalem Center, > featuring a G-man on the r u n . . . Good point, kBOY! Possible Gary Hargrave resume: "I spec
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Grew up in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood > in Indio...close to the railroad tracks. (Adobe > Road) > My parents got divorced when I was 12, and my Mom > raised her 4 kids while working as a school > teacher. > First summer job: McDonalds > Second summer job: working in Coachella
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Well, no one could accuse most of us of being apolitical. The cult inculcated us into a very conservative mindset, including JRS occasionally distributing material from the John Birch Society to members during church meetings. I even remember him saying from the pulpit that if George McGovern (D) was elected president in 1972, that the world would be plunged into a thousand years of dark ages. (N
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > A FANTASTIC STORY > > ". . .the vision JRS allegedly had in 1972 > seeing 7 years into the Kingdom. . ." > > Two things here: > > First, this completely explains all the 'warfare' > JRS claimed to be under all those years, which was > really the guilt of having foi
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > H O L Y J I M C A N Y O N -- Part Two > > > (Posted by LONE.WOLF) > > 1. Gary saw the Lord huddled in a corner of his > home, and he said it was the first time he’d seen > him in his physical being. This happened a couple > nights before Marilyn’s passing if I remember > correctly.
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I do remember being at a summer camp in 1968 > when JRS was prophesying over Marilyn (after a > night service, when most people had left the > building). He said that she would no longer be > called Marilyn, but would now be called > Miriam. Marilyn was a lot of people, wasn't > she? &
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Onion Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone remember when Marilyn first lay claim > to being Queen Esther or even being "like" a queen > Esther? I don't remember it starting while JRS > was still alive. > > Or when did the churches started celebrating Purim > so wildly? > > In my memory, it started after
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changedagain Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- A summary of a message Gary brought some months before the exposure of years of sexual abuse within TLWF (and its coverup) went public. It would be reasonable to assume this is a veiled threat toward those who believe the "lies"...implying that God will remove the "covering from their lives, " which
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kBOY Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > * * * T R A M P  o f  I S R A E L * * * > > > We may have a POTUS who claims many things, > but we need look no further than our own 'Lamp > of Israel'--better known in some circles as > the TRAMP of ISRAEL. > > When we now survey the vast landscape of > destruction that the
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