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Blaidd_164 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I just wanted to share some good news! > I received a letter from my credit card company > yesterday... > > We have concluded our investigation, we have ruled > in your favor. I received a FULL REFUND!!!!! > > Since choice made us chant over and over F*** that > guy all i can say is
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6 years ago
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I found this article interesting. I am posting with a few brief quotes, which seem to fit in with my experience. "The elimination of individual boundaries is perhaps best seen in the characteristics known as the demand for purity and confession, in which members are expected to expose all their doubts about the group/leader/rhetoric, and then they are attacked for having such thought
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6 years ago
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Yes to that. On the other hand, they describe it as a series of "discussions." Most people are mentally fit to carry on discussions, so even those who ask their mental health professionals are likely to get a green light. The problem i see is with all of the things that they do without telling participants in advance. These go way beyond "discussions," (in my humble o
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6 years ago
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Oops, my citation was not complete. The synonyms, (2nd quote in the above post), came from: Burton's Legal Thesaurus, 4E. Copyright © 2007 by William C. Burton. Used with permission of The McGraw-Hill Companies, Inc.
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6 years ago
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Here's another definition of an "Unconscionable Contract," from another site: From legal dictionary: "unconscionable adj. referring to a contract or bargain which is so unfair to a party that no reasonable or informed person would agree to it. In a suit for breach of contract, a court will not enforce an unconscionable contract (award damages or order specific perfo
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6 years ago
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corboy posted "...and the sometimes secret lover of Emiliano “Puto” Salinas – who, it has oft been said, would be “every woman’s husband and every man’s wife”, if he could." ROFL. "Puto" Salinas. He must be so proud. You couldn't make that up. I mean the whole thing is terrible, but then I got to the end and read that, and it cracked me up. Manson Family 2018
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6 years ago
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Hahaha!!! Yes, bakkagirl, that was part of the point. The other, I think, was to let off some steam....
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6 years ago
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I know, I know!! People who are REALLY committed to transformation would wear depends and just roll with it... because if you miss one minute out of the entire, exhausting weekend, You will miss THE ONE THING in the whole program that would have transformed your life!!!
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6 years ago
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That's a great link on the effects of not enough sleep, corboy. I recognize a lot of that in myself.
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6 years ago
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Oh look- a majestic mountain range of mind-fuck! And a desert of sleep deprivation. And NO TOILETS, because people with body functions won't get the "full benefit." (Maybe that's what was wrong with all of us. It only works for people who have no body functions. Yep, I can believe that).
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6 years ago
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Landmarkistan - beautiful lakes of that fake empathy, just watch out for the crocodiles. Tons of self-appointed "therapists," "coaches," and "trickster coyotes" running around, but I have the feeling that they're not so wise, and that they've misinterpreted the term, "coyote medicine." What it REALLY means, I may never know, but I'm pret
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6 years ago
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Bakkagirl wrote: "Perhaps we might find some value and relief in mapping the territory called "Landmark-a-stan"?" Haha, I'm game. I'm not sure how to go about that, but let me know about the coordinates I can provide :-D
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6 years ago
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The really dirty thing about this, and about the girl in the original post, (the one duped by Cohen), is that it all turns on ASSUMPTIONS. Cohen knew that she would ASSUME that he had her back, so she just read what was put in front of her. Landmark advertises that they will empower us, help us think outside the box, and so we sign up for the Forum ASSUMING that this is what we are going to g
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6 years ago
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bakkagirl wrote: "because I could not really believe some of the things I was seeing. I could not believe that other coaches had no issue in exploiting their clients, and exploiting the field." YES!!!!! And it doesn't have to be coaches, it could be friends, employers, therapists, but when you see someone who you would normally trust doing these things, did you think, &quo
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6 years ago
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Bakkagirl wrote: "In reading numerous accounts of how people found themselves inducted into Landmark, there is this element there -- they don't want to believe they are being duped, so they do their own mental back flips to rationalize the experience." Yes, there's that. There is also the fact that most people were duped into it by family or friends. My experience was th
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6 years ago
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I just saw this. While this is not an LGAT situation, this man duped people into telling outrageous lies about themselves. If he can do this, what can an LGAT leader do, in an effort to collect "collateral?" Even in the stories about Keith Raniere, it has been stated that some of the confessions given to him as collateral were false.
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6 years ago
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"As I see it, there seems to be INTENT to replicate LGAT culture in the corporate environment." I would expect this as having the potential to be very harmful. When I was involved in L.E., (beyond the long hours of the Forum for several days), I would be there for several hours a week. Maybe two hours for the seminar, and one three-hour assisting agreement. Plus may a couple of phone
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6 years ago
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Okay - so heavy involvement in Landmark, for about 11 years. He talks like a Lekkie, too. Then this: "The NeuroLeadership Institute comes to mind as an organization that certainly does an extremely good job around its marketing and sales..." Bring me a bucket! What the hell is this doing in ANYBODY'S place of employment?
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6 years ago
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From bakkagirl: "I would say that excluding the above circumstances, any attempt by an employer to elicit or coerce intimate self-disclosure, self-criticism has crossed the line, is in breach of the labor code of most countries, is ACTIONABLE. All of this needs to be REMOVED from organizational environments, PERIOD." Agreed. As I do, I am looking for motive here. Would the
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6 years ago
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From what bakkagirl wrote: "That said, I cannot think of one deposition that began with, "I cannot believe you said THAT !!!" " I have also been approached that way, and they were typically way off base. These were some of my thoughts about this: 1. That phrasing, right off the top, is bewildering and puts me out-of-balance. I had no idea of what they were talking abo
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6 years ago
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bakkagirl wrote: "I think we have to consider that LGAT has been modified for the corporation." I don't doubt that. They seem to be experts at formulating these things.
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6 years ago
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pssst, bakka, your mailbox is full again.
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6 years ago
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Oh, yep. These are just my applicable observations from the first link, (the one about communist brainwashing). How creepy. I hope that many people read this thread. Who in their right mind would sign up for a weekend of this, if they had any idea of what they were getting into? Of course, what they tell you is that they are "un-brainwashing" you, and setting you "free!" BUL
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6 years ago
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From corboy's post:" ...who saw it as their primary duty to "help" their most backward member to see the truth about himself..." I have seen those very words used by someone who was talking about "hard cases" at Landmark. I will probably make small comments, about specific items, as I go. I suspect that you put some real time and effort into this post, co
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6 years ago
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Corboy wrote, "Any of you who have been routed through an LGAT -- does any of this match up with what you remember?" Yes, corboy. I am sorry that I don't have time for a more elaborate answer right now. I will read more thoroughly and make a better response later. I think you are on the right track.
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6 years ago
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* so in other words, these corporations are gaining WAY too much power, and they behave as if they think they actually OWN their employees.
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6 years ago
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bakkagirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Yes, and I go back to my corporate cudgel. Let's imagine "attack therapy", or let's call it "attack consulting" is being used in the context of corporations, say, with a management team. > > The administrator would not only gain control of an individual, ala Raniere, but
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6 years ago
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OMG yes!!! This is so spot-on. Reposting your link with a quote: "This morning I did some research into Attack Therapy. It seems to have grown up out of the encounter session technique pioneered by evangelist religious organizations, and first used in therapy by quasi-religious groups like Alcoholics Anonymous. At AA, members’ attachment to the group and its ethos was cemented with
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