corboy posted "...and the sometimes secret lover of Emiliano “Puto” Salinas – who, it has oft been said, would be “every woman’s husband and every man’s wife”, if he could." ROFL. "Puto" Salinas. He must be so proud. You couldn't make that up. I mean the whole thing is terrible, but then I got to the end and read that, and it cracked me up. Manson Family 2018
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Hahaha!!! Yes, bakkagirl, that was part of the point. The other, I think, was to let off some steam....
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I know, I know!! People who are REALLY committed to transformation would wear depends and just roll with it... because if you miss one minute out of the entire, exhausting weekend, You will miss THE ONE THING in the whole program that would have transformed your life!!!
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That's a great link on the effects of not enough sleep, corboy. I recognize a lot of that in myself.
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Oh look- a majestic mountain range of mind-fuck! And a desert of sleep deprivation. And NO TOILETS, because people with body functions won't get the "full benefit." (Maybe that's what was wrong with all of us. It only works for people who have no body functions. Yep, I can believe that).
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Landmarkistan - beautiful lakes of that fake empathy, just watch out for the crocodiles. Tons of self-appointed "therapists," "coaches," and "trickster coyotes" running around, but I have the feeling that they're not so wise, and that they've misinterpreted the term, "coyote medicine." What it REALLY means, I may never know, but I'm pret
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Bakkagirl wrote: "Perhaps we might find some value and relief in mapping the territory called "Landmark-a-stan"?" Haha, I'm game. I'm not sure how to go about that, but let me know about the coordinates I can provide :-D
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The really dirty thing about this, and about the girl in the original post, (the one duped by Cohen), is that it all turns on ASSUMPTIONS. Cohen knew that she would ASSUME that he had her back, so she just read what was put in front of her. Landmark advertises that they will empower us, help us think outside the box, and so we sign up for the Forum ASSUMING that this is what we are going to g
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bakkagirl wrote: "because I could not really believe some of the things I was seeing. I could not believe that other coaches had no issue in exploiting their clients, and exploiting the field." YES!!!!! And it doesn't have to be coaches, it could be friends, employers, therapists, but when you see someone who you would normally trust doing these things, did you think, &quo
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Bakkagirl wrote: "In reading numerous accounts of how people found themselves inducted into Landmark, there is this element there -- they don't want to believe they are being duped, so they do their own mental back flips to rationalize the experience." Yes, there's that. There is also the fact that most people were duped into it by family or friends. My experience was th
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I just saw this. While this is not an LGAT situation, this man duped people into telling outrageous lies about themselves. If he can do this, what can an LGAT leader do, in an effort to collect "collateral?" Even in the stories about Keith Raniere, it has been stated that some of the confessions given to him as collateral were false.
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"As I see it, there seems to be INTENT to replicate LGAT culture in the corporate environment." I would expect this as having the potential to be very harmful. When I was involved in L.E., (beyond the long hours of the Forum for several days), I would be there for several hours a week. Maybe two hours for the seminar, and one three-hour assisting agreement. Plus may a couple of phone
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Okay - so heavy involvement in Landmark, for about 11 years. He talks like a Lekkie, too. Then this: "The NeuroLeadership Institute comes to mind as an organization that certainly does an extremely good job around its marketing and sales..." Bring me a bucket! What the hell is this doing in ANYBODY'S place of employment?
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bakka - mailbox...
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From bakkagirl: "I would say that excluding the above circumstances, any attempt by an employer to elicit or coerce intimate self-disclosure, self-criticism has crossed the line, is in breach of the labor code of most countries, is ACTIONABLE. All of this needs to be REMOVED from organizational environments, PERIOD." Agreed. As I do, I am looking for motive here. Would the
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From what bakkagirl wrote: "That said, I cannot think of one deposition that began with, "I cannot believe you said THAT !!!" " I have also been approached that way, and they were typically way off base. These were some of my thoughts about this: 1. That phrasing, right off the top, is bewildering and puts me out-of-balance. I had no idea of what they were talking abo
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bakkagirl wrote: "I think we have to consider that LGAT has been modified for the corporation." I don't doubt that. They seem to be experts at formulating these things.
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pssst, bakka, your mailbox is full again.
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Oh, yep. These are just my applicable observations from the first link, (the one about communist brainwashing). How creepy. I hope that many people read this thread. Who in their right mind would sign up for a weekend of this, if they had any idea of what they were getting into? Of course, what they tell you is that they are "un-brainwashing" you, and setting you "free!" BUL
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From corboy's post:" ...who saw it as their primary duty to "help" their most backward member to see the truth about himself..." I have seen those very words used by someone who was talking about "hard cases" at Landmark. I will probably make small comments, about specific items, as I go. I suspect that you put some real time and effort into this post, co
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Corboy wrote, "Any of you who have been routed through an LGAT -- does any of this match up with what you remember?" Yes, corboy. I am sorry that I don't have time for a more elaborate answer right now. I will read more thoroughly and make a better response later. I think you are on the right track.
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* so in other words, these corporations are gaining WAY too much power, and they behave as if they think they actually OWN their employees.
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bakkagirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > Yes, and I go back to my corporate cudgel. Let's imagine "attack therapy", or let's call it "attack consulting" is being used in the context of corporations, say, with a management team. > > The administrator would not only gain control of an individual, ala Raniere, but
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OMG yes!!! This is so spot-on. Reposting your link with a quote: "This morning I did some research into Attack Therapy. It seems to have grown up out of the encounter session technique pioneered by evangelist religious organizations, and first used in therapy by quasi-religious groups like Alcoholics Anonymous. At AA, members’ attachment to the group and its ethos was cemented with
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"I can report having seen quite a few 'duper's smirks' at coaching conferences, so, I am going to say 'witting', for the most part." Yes, that would be my guess, as well. I can't count the times I saw the "duper"s smirk" at Landmark. "'Feedback culture' is being driven into the DNA of organizations -" Yes, and th
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Corboy, the scenario in your last post is IDENTICAL to what happened to me, with only one difference. I had not posted what had happened to me on social media. I HAD spoken to my Landmark recruiter about it, in confidence. Before speaking of it, even to her, I had asked her for an iron-clad promise that she would speak of it to no one. This was before she got into Landmark. Later, people at L
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Yes, what corboy wrote, and never forget that most people are recruited by friends, acquaintances and family members, even people they met in 12-step groups. They already have plenty of info on you, just from that. It seemed to me as if their former code of ethics has been wiped clean, and replaced by the LGAT's own corrupt "code of ethics." It is really more like an "honor
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bakkagirl wrote: "Would the kind of group loyalty that LGAT generates cause coaches who are working externally to share information that would/could advance the business or other interests of the group, or network." Absolutely. My recruiter, who was an R.N., and considered herself a shaman, (equivalent to clergy), betrayed my confidences. She was a loyal friend, until her loyalty
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I have no experience in the coaching world. My experience was strictly with Landmark. Although they extract promises from the participants that they will not share what they heard from others in the training, it seemed to me that they themselves were very free with information about participants, and engaged in gossip amongst themselves. Also, they made use of information that participants
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I had to laugh at this: "Our best comes out when we have honest discussions. Our worst comes out when we behave like robots or professionals. " And then a few paragraphs later: "Flores prompts Tomas, "Follow the script, exactly as it is written": Assessor: , ; . Person assessed: , thank you for your assessment. I appreciate your sincerity. I would like to h
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