Hello Ginah, I started questioning things on the tribal rituals! This is about all my guy would share, and the more I thought about it, the more I wondered why is he so interest now, I mean after all he didn't even go with me to the Indian convention. Then he would go to the I groups and never talk about them, and I was like "Well what did you do there?"" And he would s
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I totally agree with this Ru, and I still think there is a mockery of the Native american rituals. Seems when I question Bearsong on his so called native credintals he dissapeared! I questioned one other and lose him too! And with all the shadows you will have then when does the carpet work end? QuoteIvyQuoteRU?ingQuotewquercusRU?ing, thanks for posting the summary as you gave it.
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QuoteRU?ingQuotewquercusRU?ing, thanks for posting the summary as you gave it. It is congruent with what I experienced, and those who say it isn't are perhaps not living in integrity. Excatly what I believe! And Thanks for taking the time to read the thread. I didn't actually post a summary - I posted the whole lot! QuotewquercusI'd differ with the implied criticism of sex-seg
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QuoteskepticmdThe person who "recruited" me is (or should I say was) my therapist....he kept going on and on about what a great weekend it would be for me and how I would make some great friends, etc etc I think there are less expensive, less humiliating ways to make friends. My 12-step groups are free, and nobody asks you to get naked :) I agree with this statement, I dont think
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QuoteskepticmdI was considering going to an upcoming MKP weekend until I started reading all of these posts. Unfortunately, I had already sent in my $150 deposit, but not the rest of the money thankfully. I also requested to join the ex-mkp yahoo group. Does anyone know how long it usually takes to hear back from that group leader? I am anxious to read more and have as much info as possible whe
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I would think you should be able to get your money back, if you started complaining about how they lied to you, one would think they wouldn't want a squeaky wheel! It takes at most a day to get on. Sit back grab a beer, because your going to need it!
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QuoteRU?ingQuotewquercusSorry, Ivy, I can't really tell what's what, you've got some of my quotes and some of the ones I was responding to ... But I think I'm making the same point you are. If you can't tell your wife, or are ashamed to, the things that happened, there's a problem. You are - but it took me a couple of reads to get it. Now you use the quote bars
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QuotewquercusQuoteMKP in no way provides funds to facilitate the weekend. The 20 or so men pay themselves to go. I accept that grants are sometimes provided. I'd be interested in knowing how many people get grants. I paid $150 myself, with the rest coming from MKP and from friends on staff. Lots, they do this in hopes that you will get something out of it and then you will (grant or sp
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wquercus but didn't you write this in another board? ("No one is deprived of ANYTHING during a weekend." You are not deprived of reading material, of your shampoo and razor and soap, of "sacred items" you brought? You are not fed a meager ration of oranges and granola and oatmeal? "There is no mysterious 'secrecy'" No? Would you
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Field, they wont give you the truth, because the whole MKP is based on a lie. If they lie to their wives then why would they give you the truth, try to see what you can get from Tim from this thread Cult Education Forum :: View topic - mankind project...cult?
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who or what is Iron John?
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:) Hey Ru?ing, happy to see you! The MKP just cant keep a REAL MAN down, can they? LOL Good question for Jehovah's wetness... Yes please share your experience?? Did this group get you by ways of your church? I here they do a lot of that too? From all the searching we a slowly getting a few former members to talk about this LGAT! I dont understand why? But I hope we get
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Seems they now want more money for the MKP for safe email, it never stops > Well, to start with - I want to salute that RU?ing for costing MKP members a further $60!!!! lol!
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Hey Bear Just wondering how long you have been in the MKP?
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Are you quoting him or signing ...Albert Spencer
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I would love to see your credentials maybe a photo, Native Americans are not hard to mistake! I would have to say that maybe a hand full this group have some Indian Blood, but not too many, because most of my people feel this an insult! Also you say ......."also, the name i'm using in this dialogue is part of my last name. also, i am part native american as are a number of
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PRODUCTIVE QUESTIONS / COMMENTS 1. ACTIVE LISTENING (REPEAT BACK KEY WORDS) • “WHAT I’M HEARING IS ...” 2. WHAT’S AT RISK? 3. CLARIFYING • WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU? • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? I want to be loved. What does that mean to you, “to be loved”? It means to be held and accepted for who I am. How do you mean, “who you are”? I mean for my good and bad traits.
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Songs they use ....I will never be able to listen to any of this again and there is more! UGH! OMG I will never look at these songs the same, GTG get sick! MUSIC 1. MUSIC FOR GUTS PROCESSES AND CELEBRATION(S) • BOLDED TYPE INDICATES FREQUENT USE ON NWTA WEEKEND’S CATEGORY (Process) ARTIST TITLE Anger Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man) Styx Birth Canal Cat Stevens Morning
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Here is some of the guts manual and I group advanced training PRODUCTIVE QUESTIONS / COMMENTS 1. ACTIVE LISTENING (REPEAT BACK KEY WORDS) • “WHAT I’M HEARING IS ...” 2. WHAT’S AT RISK? 3. CLARIFYING • WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU? • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? I want to be loved. What does that mean to you, “to be loved”? It means to be held and accepted for who I am. Ho
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QuotefeldsparThis link is way too much to read, but you can read the intro a get a pretty good sense of the dissertation. [72.14.203.104] sorry but I don't know how to hyperlink so you'll have to paste the link to follow it Funny how when they do the % of ages of men, race and religion they have every race and religion for every group but native American???? Go figure!
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Quotepatrick-darcyone thing that so many of these groups have in common is that they empower themselves over their victims while their victims are convinced they have empowered themselves, even over others. power , domination and money is what so many of these groups are about. trust in these groups is given and then they destroy peoples lives, then create in a sense a new one for th
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QuoteRU?ingIvy - keep this coming - just keep it in the mankind project thread! Am I in it? Or do I have to do quotes or do you want me to add this to yours?
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I.4. Changing Clothes This exercise may also belong in the play section, but it's definitely a stretch when it comes to intimacy. The set up goes like this. Have all the men remove their clothing and then have each man choose someone else's clothes and put them on. Once everyone is dressed assume the characteristics of the man whose clothes you wear. Check in with one another a
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OMG I will never look at these songs the same, GTG get sick! MUSIC 1. MUSIC FOR GUTS PROCESSES AND CELEBRATION(S) • BOLDED TYPE INDICATES FREQUENT USE ON NWTA WEEKEND’S CATEGORY (Process) ARTIST TITLE Anger Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man) Styx Birth Canal Cat Stevens Morning Has Broken Birth Canal Elton John The Greatest Discovery Birth Canal John Lennon Beautiful Boy Celebrati
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It's no wonder why they keep this crap secret Here is more of the guts manual! ACCESSING A SUB-PERSONALITY ALTERNATIVES FACILITATOR’S WORDS 5. “PUSH BUTTON” WHICH TRIGGERS SUB-PERSONALITY • TALK OR ACTION • Jump on back; slap; call names; words from bad dad etc. • Mock-up event 6. ACTIVE LISTENING • ALLOW INITIATE TO TALK UNTIL HE SELF-TRIGGERS A SUB-PERSONALITY (EMOTION) • Se
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PRODUCTIVE QUESTIONS / COMMENTS 1. ACTIVE LISTENING (REPEAT BACK KEY WORDS) • “WHAT I’M HEARING IS ...” 2. WHAT’S AT RISK? 3. CLARIFYING • WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU? • WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? I want to be loved. What does that mean to you, “to be loved”? It means to be held and accepted for who I am. How do you mean, “who you are”? I mean for my good and bad traits. What do y
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QuoteRU?ingQuoteundecidedmind you, I am not convinced that this is always and in all cases a harmful group - I have a friend involved with it and he says it made positive changes in his life, and his friend, not an MKPer, says he only knows of people with positive outcomes I am considering the training and seaching for facts, which are hard to gleen from the polar opposites of the for and agai
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QuotefeldsparThis was just starting up when I left MKP and really know little about it, but for the group, in light of what we read in the news today, would any sane parent send their kids to this? Nope! I dont trust anybody with my son! He is going to be 6 in July and he still has to go in the girls bathrooms, there are stalls with doors and the Mom I cames across said they don't b
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under the whole mentoring boys to men thing, I wonder if you go the the site with the list of men and did a pervert back ground check, I wonder how many have records??
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Oh and I can quite figure out why a mkp man would be visiting the cult education form unless he was questioning this group himself. Then he is most likely using his warrior name to sign in. Another wanta be Indian??? As far as the religion thing goes, it doesn't matter what one you are. It the fact that you take a Indian religion and make it sneaky! Once again if you can't walk int
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