And More And this kind of behavior is supposed to be helpful
Posted by: Ivy ()
Date: April 10, 2006 04:42AM

It's no wonder why they keep this crap secret

Here is more of the guts manual!

ACCESSING A SUB-PERSONALITY
ALTERNATIVES FACILITATOR’S WORDS
5. “PUSH BUTTON” WHICH TRIGGERS SUB-PERSONALITY
• TALK OR ACTION • Jump on back; slap; call names; words from bad dad etc.
• Mock-up event
6. ACTIVE LISTENING
• ALLOW INITIATE TO TALK UNTIL HE SELF-TRIGGERS A SUB-PERSONALITY (EMOTION) • See active listening
7. FOLLOW SIDE-WAYS ACTIONS / COMMENTS TO VOICE
- (I.E. ACCOUNTABILITY) • What do your actions say? (Fuck You)
• Say it again (Fuck You)
• Again, Louder (FUCK YOU)
8. MUSIC / SMELL
B. COULD BE USED IN I-GROUP
ALTERNATIVES FACILITATOR’S WORDS
9. FOLLOW INNER VOICE • “Do you hear an inner voice that wants your attention right now?”
- What is voice saying? (Fuck you)
- Say it again (Fuck You)
- Again, Louder (FUCK YOU)
- AGAIN (FUCK YOU)
- “FUCK YOU” what are you doing here?
10. MOVE BODY / CHAIR TO BECOME SUB-PERSONALITY
(VOICE DIALOGUE) A. “Move your chair (body) and become that part of you that _______”
B. - “start to let your body feel like the part of you that _______”
- “start to move like that part”
- “start to think like that part”
- “start to talk out loud like that part”



What the hell is going on!

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And More And this kind of behavior is supposed to be helpful
Posted by: RU?ing ()
Date: April 10, 2006 04:47AM

Of course, this isn't psychology in the slightest - of course it's 'education' - uh-huh - say, how high did you want me to jump?

Can this be moved to the MKP thread mr moderator?

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Posted by: Ivy ()
Date: April 10, 2006 04:47AM

OMG I will never look at these songs the same, GTG get sick!
MUSIC
1. MUSIC FOR GUTS PROCESSES AND CELEBRATION(S)
• BOLDED TYPE INDICATES FREQUENT USE ON NWTA WEEKEND’S
CATEGORY (Process) ARTIST TITLE
Anger Fooling Yourself
(The Angry Young Man) Styx
Birth Canal Cat Stevens Morning Has Broken
Birth Canal Elton John The Greatest Discovery
Birth Canal John Lennon Beautiful Boy
Celebration Beatles With A Little Help From My Friends
Celebration Black Box Strike It Up!
Celebration C+C Music Factory Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)
Celebration Cream I Feel Free
Celebration Doors Break On Through
Celebration Joe Cocker With A Little Help From My Friends
Celebration Kool And The Gang (The Patrick Cowley Menergy Megamix) Celebrate - Menergy
Celebration Marky Mark And The Funky Bunch Good Vibrations
Celebration Michael Mc Donald Sweet Freedom
Celebration Prince (Formerly Known As) Baby I’m A Star
Celebration Rozalla Everybody’s Free
Celebration Soundtrack -
Forest Gump - Aretha Franklin Respect
(Continued ...)
CATEGORY (Process) ARTIST TITLE
Celebration Soundtrack -
Forest Gump - Three Dog Night Joy To The World
Celebration Technotronic Get Up And Move Your Body
Celebration Three Dog Night Celebrate - Celebrate
Celebration - Reflective Enigma Return To Innocence
Celebration - Reflective Soundtrack -
Forest Gump - The Youngbloods Let’s Get Together

Celebration - Reflective Soundtrack -
The Body Guard -Whitney Houston I Will Always Love You
Celebration - Reflective Soundtrack -
The Lion King - Elton John Can You Feel The Love Tonight
Celebration - Reflective Soundtrack -
The Lion King - Elton John Circle Of Life
Celebration - Slow Chris Spheeris Where The Angels Fly
Celebration - Slow Soundtrack - The Power Of One The Power Of One
Cradle Donna Summer There Will Always Be A You
Cradle Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warrens Love Lift Us Up Where We Belong
Cradle Requiem For The Americas Far Far Cry
Cradle Simon And Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water
Cradle - Anne Murray A Love Song
Cradle - The Hollies He Ain’t Heavy He’s My Brother
Cradle - Flying Bette Midler Wind Beneath My Wings
Cradle - Instrumental Enya Book Of Days
Cradle - Instrumental Enya Storms In Africa
Cradle - Instrumental Fresh Aire (VII) 7 Stars Of The Big Dipper
Cradle - Instrumental Mars Lazar One Day
Cradle - Instrumental Patrick O’hearn Espana
(Continued ...)
CATEGORY (Process) ARTIST TITLE
Cradle - Instrumental Soundtrack -
Chariots Of Fire - Vangelis Theme
Cradle - Instrumental Soundtrack -
Glory (Closing Credits) Closing Credits
Cradle - Instrumental Soundtrack -
Missing - Vangelis Climb
Cradle - Instrumental Soundtrack -
Missing - Vangelis Main Theme
Cradle - Instrumental Soundtrack -
Vangelis Themes CD First Approach
Cradle - Instrumental Yanni Dare To Dream - Track #6
Cradle - Instrumental Yanni Reflections Of Passion - Track #11
Cradle - Instrumental Yanni To The One Who Knows
Father - New Baby Boy Anne Murray Danny’s Song
Father / Son Crosby, Stills, Nash And Young Teach Your Children
Father / Son Soundtrack - Rhythm Of The Pride Lands (The Lion King) He Lives In You
Father / Son Relationship Harry Chapin Cat’s In The Cradle
Father / Son Relationship Mike And The Mechanics The Living Years
Grieving Seal Prayer For The Dying
Grieving - Acceptance Of Death Linda Ronstadt Good-Bye My Friend
Grieving - Acceptance Of Death Mariah Carey And Boyz II Men One Sweet Day
Grieving - Acceptance Of Death Soundtrack -
Boys On The Side - Melissa Etheridge I Take You With Me
Grieving - Acceptance Of Death Soundtrack -
Casper - Jordon Hill Remember Me This Way
Grieving - Aids Streets Of Philadelphia Bruce Springsteen
(Continued ...)

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Posted by: RU?ing ()
Date: April 10, 2006 04:49AM

That music would put me in a trance and I'd do anything anyone said just so they'd stop playing it - the lion king? Grown men?! Oh boy - I must be too cynical.

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Posted by: bonnie ()
Date: April 10, 2006 06:46AM

I'm sure they don't miss a trick.

On the BTM website, you can watch films of the boys' weekends. My browser wouldn't play the video, but I did get the sound track- just songs;
"Danny Boy", and "Over the Rainbow", both sung slow plaintive, and very very sad in a voice like Sara McGlaughlin.

There groups are all related, and are slicker than snot when it comes to emotional manipulation. I'm still not sure who the target audience of the BTM website is, though.

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Posted by: RU?ing ()
Date: April 10, 2006 06:56AM

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bonnie
There groups are all related, and are slicker than snot when it comes to emotional manipulation.

I guess their excuse is its the same as sending a kid to sunday school......
grrrrrr!

Slicker or sicker Bonnie? is that a typo? :wink:

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I'm still not sure who the target audience of the BTM website is, though.

Anyone? Financial and spiritual vampires don't really care do they? More seriously, I'm a bit confused by that myself. But it still surprises me how big this mythopoetic stuff is. And have you read any of this Robery Bly c*&p?!

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Posted by: Hope ()
Date: April 10, 2006 07:02AM

Oh Jeez, what about Robert Bly. My doc gave me a book of his to read called, THe Little Book of the Shadow" or something like that. After the first few sentences (we all have a shadow and we all carry about yukky stuff), he lost me.

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Posted by: RU?ing ()
Date: April 10, 2006 07:06AM

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Hope
Oh Jeez, what about Robert Bly. My doc gave me a book of his to read called, THe Little Book of the Shadow" or something like that. After the first few sentences (we all have a shadow and we all carry about yukky stuff), he lost me.

The MKP are obsessed with "Iron John: A Book about Men" (1990)

Its appalling, real sexist drivel. Patriarchal 1950's style look at the world. Or at least thats my interpretation of his fine works.

Curse Jung! I always liked his work. I never lost myself in it though. Boys will be boys.

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And More And this kind of behavior is supposed to be helpful
Posted by: bonnie ()
Date: April 10, 2006 07:07AM

Woah, you're going too fast for me.
Is that "Robery", or "Robert"?
Or is this another one of those cross-continental thangs?

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Posted by: RU?ing ()
Date: April 10, 2006 07:22AM

more a it's half midnight typo type thing - sorry!

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