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18 years ago
Ivy
As far as I know they dont have any right to use them, I am sure they just took them as their own? I have not come in contact of a native american man in this group yet, probably because he would have left at the first sound of those drums. I know I would have been embarrassed for them!
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
QuoteseedjoeAn adult male human. No more ,no less. Questoin: Are there any men on this list that are expressing concerns? or is it just women? Is there any chance for real conversation? Or just angry screaming posts? I hae the same feeling on this site as i did on a white supremacy site i once tired to engage as a Jew. Lots of venoom and heat, little light. There are men here joe and the
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18 years ago
Ivy
QuoteseedjoeThe Milwaukee Journal in 1986 wrote an article about the New Warrior training, with pictures. what you are going to give here 1 article from 20 years ago seed joe? Just goes to show you the secrecy and deception of this group! Look around Curious, You will find all the manuals for the training and I groups and guts manuls, some rosters some I group rosters, the minutes and gov
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18 years ago
Ivy
QuotefeldsparQuoteInformed Consent for Psychotherapy: A Look at Therapists' Understanding, Opinions, and Practices Paul Croarking, D.O.; Jennifer Berg, M.D.; James Spira, Ph.D. p 384-400 Forensic experts agree that the doctrine of informed consent now applies to psychotherapy. Would you think that the facts that there will be sleep deprivation, low protein diet, and attempts to
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18 years ago
Ivy
QuoteBearSongthis is my second attemt at posting this: i was brainwashed in 1993, but not by mkp. i needed a cleansing. it was a choice I made and, at that mkp weekend, i was given the opportunity to “wash” or let go of a lot of resentment, judging of what I don’t understand, and seeing evil lurking around every corner. i went to the weekend on a scholarship because I was having financial
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18 years ago
Ivy
Shut UP!!!!! Can you find out how much a I will send this via email of the Windsor area spent???? This was my husbands sponser, he even does some extra fire walking seminars to make the guys feel they can do anything if they can walk threw fire! UMMMM I watched the discovery channel and seen how this hoax is pulled off! I love the way you get these guys rattled, and have you seen the vie
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
I think a lot of these men like going to the I group so they can feel empowered within the group, even if it is small. Control freaks! I am waiting to get app. for the yahoo group you all sparked my Interest! UGH! The more I read the sicker I get! Hey RU, did Seed Joe ever give you a definition for (Man) You have great comebacks! :) I still would like to work on these questi
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
Keep it coming you guys! Spill the beans. I think we are the True Warriors dont you! LOL I am sitting here smiling, because I finally see that we are getting some where with the information sharing! Oh and it helps to have a computer hack onboard! Who knew P2P would be sooo helpful! He He
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18 years ago
Ivy
Hey Seed Joe ~ Dont get me started! First I am Native American, so don't try to use the spiritual beliefs of my people to the Catholic church! I am a member of (The lake of the Woods) Are you Indian? Or just a want be? And as for Catholic Church's, you can walk into there church's any day of the week and sit down and listen to a ceremony. But not with the MKP, hmmmmm wond
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
Quotefeldsparthank you so much for posting this I have felt like something was wrong with me for the last 5 years after leaving this group, like I was the only one that didn't "get it" It nice to finally meet a memeber who actually seen this group for what they truley are. Truste me you would not still be marry if you continued! You should be proud of how you over came this grou
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
Between, What to do, Ru?ing, and Ivy (me) we are like the 3 musketeers. Finally starting to get somewhere with all the snooping and prying and sharing, thanks and keep it coming QuoteRU?ingQuotewhat2dofeldspar, I spent some time reading on the yahoo web you gave. Pretty eye opening stuff. I do understand what you mean about that forum. A lot of bickering between a handful of people, with neit
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
Since I have been searching the best Information has come from Ru?ing I hope Field fills in some of the blanks
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18 years ago
Ivy
This is one sick group of men!
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18 years ago
Ivy
QuotenutrinoQuoteI am sorry if I offended anyone with this statement. I realize it is very shocking. Neither shocking nor surprising. In the EST 6 day training we had Sex Night where were were bombarded with with 3 movie screens of hardcore pornography... each screen had a seperate hardcore film on it. Each reel was composed of maybe a dozen hardcore short films, spliced together to form a mind
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18 years ago
Ivy
Quotewhat2doIvy, I posted on another MKP thread. Could you please help me with any information you have. I am trying to get my H to not stay involved with this group. Well, there is a lot, first let me ask how long has he been at this? And how long have you been married? a lot of these guy are at a crossroads with who they are and need the support of other people blowing smoke up there but t
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
Well here is another scam for money! Deception and Secrets, like a friend said to me, any group, that you have to pay for, and you cant just walk in and sit down, and or have dirty little secrets is a scam! I would love to see somebody go to these weekend and record this, although it they are smart enough to take away your phones and transportation. Anyhow, what a joke, being I am native Amer
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
18 years ago
Ivy
Anybody who thinks that keeping secrets from his wife is not trustworthy! I wonder if his wife will join the phone conversation????
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18 years ago
Ivy
You are right To be concerned Dad! It was only later I found out that it was intense, because they sleep deprived them, they ate when they were told, ran around naked in the woods to find their inter child body, and then after screaming out hateful things and anybody who has hurt you, you were initiated! (First of All) They pray on those who are always asking why? who are we? They also fin
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18 years ago
Ivy
They say they are not a therapy group, That is all the Guts manual talks about! EXample! Lets say when your husband goes to I groups and he is upset with you, the do exercises say think like F the B and then they all say it? So how is that supposed to be helpful? My husband was becoming soooo angry with me! I mean you are his wife, there should be NO secrets. It is because they tel
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