too right, Brad, the LGATs have a long history and they have perfected their system of abuse, eh? regards, "shad'
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Hi Steve, It is so hard to know that so many people are going through the same thing with regard to the LGATs...I hope that you can continue to keep the lines of communication open with your children...and I hope that you have people close to that you can talk to... hi Nason x. I hope that you can get some little bit of comfort from talking abou your experience here...I know it has helped
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Hi army-of-me I read in one of the documents ref. the US Department of Labour investigation of Landmark that Landmark grads and "volunteers" are too afraid to be identified because Landmark possesses sensitive information about them, and that is too ricky for them. So it seems you may not be able to get many people to lend you their names, if you know what i mean. good lu
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Hi Steve989, yeah, .... the problem is thought, they are NOT thinkink...but they don't realize that they are not thinking....it is so insideous... i can only imagine how hurt and frustrated you must be... regards, 'shad'
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Corboy said:Quote"corboy" "Physically she was present, but emotionally she was absent. (The term for this is dissociation, and very likely LGATs teach people to do this whenver they encounter stuff that doesnt fit into the LGAT scheme--its a case of 'beam me up, Scotty') This woman said trying to relate to her mother was 'like trying to grab smoke.&#
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sheesh, look at all my typos!!! sorry, I am posting in segments because I keep getting "timed out"... further, Ofshe and Singer report in "Attacks on Peripheral versus Central Elements of Self and the Impact of Thought Reforming Techniques" ... "The inference consisten with these reports is that psychological distrubance is more likely to be i
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Hi All, just FYI In their abstract Ofshe and Singer write: " Althoughh the evidence is limited, it suggest that physical brutality or deprivation, even when combined with interpersonal coercion, did not regularly cause emotional breakdown or psychotic episodes. There is a notable absence of report sof frequent psychotic breaks among American military prisoners and among improsion
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Yep, the LGATs say they will transform lives, ... little do the unsuspecting recruits realize that it will not be in a good way!
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Hi SaneAgain, Obviously the conditioning runs deep. It seems it will take time for people who have spent a long time in the LGAT groups to go back to who they were originally. But of course, none of us ever stay the same. Life's experience change us, may unalterably. The trick is to get back to one's intinsic self, that child who came out of the proverbial 'womb'....to k
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Hi rswinters1, I keep getting timed out, so I will have to respond to your comments in segments. I think you are being too hard on yourself. I will eloborate more on this after I have typed a reply in (word), and paste it here... I agree with most of what you say, however, I think you are not giving yourself enough credit. It is only past experience, and lack of money, that kept me fro
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Hi Kaz, Just call me cynical, but I think i know why Lori Todd is posting here. 'shad'
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Quote"skeptic" :"They go through the motions, using the "tools", and fail miserably to have any real connection. I know that I felt that way in the lgat; I had a deep sense that I & others were being phoney. A therapist I once saw said that we were facades interfacing with facades. That rang true. " skeptic[/quote Hi skeptic; tha
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Hi skeptic, your posted: Quote"skeptic"Quote"SaneAgain" I think the concept of going into effect contributes to people in lgats lacking compassion because when someone shows a negative emotion (eg feeling hurt by something you've said) then it is interpreted as that person "going into effect" and something to be dismissed because its
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"at cause" -- Oh brother! :lol: talk about reinventing the wheel... why not just say "being in the present". sheeesh.... what a load of bullcrap! -- And LGAT grads wonder why we think they have lost their minds! 'shad'
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Hi exImpact, you wrote: Quote"exImpact" Then of course, I would invariably come to another conflict in this logic when a trainee with a history of molestation would come to Impact. They would get confused when they were told that they allowed the abuse to happen. And always, some random exception to this “logic” would be given, such as “Well, you are and have been accountabl
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Maxui, your wrote: Quote"Maxui I think I have had my fill of battering from The-Shadow tho :)[/quote I was not "battering" you, merely "expression my opinion", responding to YOUR eroneous statements, but if you choose to perceive that as battering, well, that's your reality, not much I can do about that! Regards, 'shad'
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Quote"SaneAgain"Shad, get those boots on! And don't forget my commission... :wink: :lol: okey, dokey SaneAgain, :wink: 'shad'
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anyone!!, I still can't get my quotes to work properly, like getting the little white box. any suggestions? 'shad'
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Hey there dazed; it is 9:32 p.m. in my part of the world...are you still her wanting to talk...?? speak up man! :lol: "I'm listening",,, just like Frasier, eh? :? this is me, confused, no, just kidding :) I will be in and out, so just shout! regards, 'shad'
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Hi Sane Again, 555-Sha-dow? :lol: regards,' 'shad'
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Hi ajinajan, Thanks, 'shad'
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Hi Rswinters; :lol: regards, 'shad'
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Hi ajinajan; I have not seen these news articles. Do you have a link you could direct me to, I would be interested in reading them. Thanks, 'shad'
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Post Script, hey there Rswinters1 glad to see your smiley faces!!!!! :) :lol: 'shad'
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[quote="question lady" wrote: "Oh, and yes the ever popular ban on 'judgment'. We sure wouldn't want to distinguish good from bad or right from wrong. I think an important first step in getting people to distrust themselves and believe this crap is to get them thinking there is something wrong with judging and evaluating in the first place. If you susp
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Quote"Maxui" Not really into being beaten.... physically anyway this speaks volumes, Maxui: and I must say I am not surprised. YOUR OWN "inference" here is that while you are not "into" being beaten physically, therefore you are saying that you are not adverse to be beaten emotionally/psychologically. Please correct me if I am wrong. If
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Quote"Maxui "The military is like this too as are schools" It is not only absurb, but naive to try to convince anyone here that the military, or schools can in any way be compared to LGATs. Schools do not practice Gestalt, primal, and group therapy, WITHOUT A LICENCE. Schools and the military do not promise to "transform your life". The mi
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Quote"Maxui" *waits to get flamed again* Maxui, You came back. The question is why? It seems to me that you thrive on self-inflicted conflict. You bait the hook, then when someone takes you you jump on them with abrasive comments. Your above comment about waiting to be flamed is obviously an attempt to bait someone into an argument so you can then continue with yo
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Mauxi said: "and please note I am not trying to push the seminars I attended on anyone just commenting on them thanks" Matt Mauxi, I'm just not sure why you feel the need to be continually commenting on the seminars. It sure sounds to me like you are, if not pushing them, defending them. If they are as great as they are why are so many people on this foru
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hey there rswinters1 :lol: poop IMPACT, very good, what that an intentional pun? 'shad'
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