p.s. I'm reading the paper by Singer and Ofshe, "Attacks on Peripheral versus Central Elements of Self and the Impact of Thought Reforming Techniques" whew! quite a lot to absorb, it will take me awhile to read and correctly interpret/integrate....
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Hi Elena, right, thanks....I did look back to try to find out but I guess I missed that.... thanks for the clarification. "shad"
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"Self indulgent sicophants feeding off each others misery"...hmmmmm, - sounds to me like a case of "pot calling the kettle black"
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:lol: yep....I don't even KNOW what a "sicophant" is, is it part of the elephant family? later, "Shad"
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Thanks elena, (ellen) I will check that link, "Shad"
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Sorry for the confusion, Sane AGain, no company name available,,,she WAS the Head of the Human Resources DEPARTMENT of a large company, that is all my Doctor told me...but what I found interesting was, she was sort of getting ready to move towards the door, as we had almost finished the consult, but as soon as she heard the name Landmark, she stopped in her tracks, and paid close attention to
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Hey there ellen, I have been trying to find the forum in which you asked me, with reference to my friend" Why do you think she is not listening"....i was too tired last night to try to figure out the quote thingey, and now I can't find your comment. Anyway, this is what I think: She is not listening because she has been brainwashed. She is not listening because whi
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:lol: *chuckle* - it is a poor tennis player who blames his racket, i like to say, :lol: "racket", no, i mean that thing with cut gut and wood, but nowdays, it's titanium and nylon, eh?
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Thank you SaneAgain, You have posted some of the same questions/comments I had. And specifically I STILL don't know which LGAT programme Mauxi participated in, and I am just curious about his shyness about giving us the name...IF it was/is so wonderful for him, why does he not want to devulge the name of the programme? Just Curious, "Shad"
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ops, my attempt to reply to ellen's quote did not work...will keep trying followed SA's instructions, but I must have missed something. later, "Shad"
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Quote"elena"Quote"Maxui" I was interested to find out why when my experience was very positive others found it extremely damaging. There is no shortage of people who will defend pyramid schemes, multi-level-marketing, or network-marketing. Generally, these people have very, very flattering things to say about these sales structures. You are just a
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Hi ON2 LF Well, they are in operation; they have an office in a very prestegious part of downtown Vancouver, on the main floor of a high rise office building, at 1155 West Pender Street. FYI Marketplace in Toronto wanted to do an investigative report on them in 1991 (i think it was) but I guess no one would speak to them. If you are interested you could write to MARKETPLACE at
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To questionLady,sswinters, vic-luc, sandAgain, and all others who have been so helpful and allowed me to vent, I think I have some good news. I had a long chat with my friend, and she told me she is not taking calles from Landmark or returning their messages, she has refused to help at a seminar in September and she said she has a letter from them which she has left unopened....so....i tried n
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Hi Vic-Luc NOT The Tiete! :lol: Tiete Syndrom!!!! :roll: (and I have yet to go to the Mayo Clinic Site to check up on what it is, My Doctor and I got talking about Quest/Landmark instead! ok, now I got the part about Message if It will help, I thought the It will, was I will, so I was confused. The singular part I don't quite get, but I don't suppose I need to know everything
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Quote"Maxui"Quote"The Shadow"I have read your posts, Mauxi, and i find them confusing and self-contradictory. what do you find contradictory? Quote"The Shadow" Initially your misrepresented yourself, and withheld critical information, then berated people for their comments. I misrepresented myself? read the very first post of mine on
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Quote"hipo":shock: I'm starting to get overwhelmed by all the posts about this Landmark. I never heard of this company before. I started reading here after a friend of mine left the country to "pursue his dream" and started talking in a cult-like manner about his Landmark thing. I posted about this in another thread asking for information, not expecting
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Yeah, Vic-Luc, that's the Catch-22, eh? The "volunteers" are brainwashed to work for free. But, I think they can be investigated because of their practice of offering courses to "volunteers" (brainwashed graduates) in exchange for work. That is considered "bartering" - exhanging one service for another, without any cash changing ha
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Quote"Chastain"Ghost Dancer, I just read all the posts on here and wanted to ask if you've had any luck with the authorities reporting PSI? I lost my girlfriend to this a few weeks ago, shortly after she returned from PSI7. I called the better business bureau in y state and was told they had no listing for PSI seminars. The clerk who looked it up asked if I had an addr
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Quote"Ghost Dancer"Well it seems like my wife went off the deep end this past weekend. I heard from her father and he asked why my wife asked him for a loan of $4000.00 dollars. I was floored to say the least. I told him what his daughter had gotten involved with and he looked at me like I was crazy. When I started to explain what I’ve been going through the past two months
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This is what frightens me so. My friend, who was a gentle, compassionate, intelligent human being seemed to, overnight, turn into a rude, opinionated, uncaring individual. And I do believe I caught her out telling me a direct lie. Prior to her involvement in Landmark(EST) I had trusted her to the extent that I had loaned her my mastercard number for a one-off purchase. Since I caught her
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ahhh, but there's the catch, I signed no such waiver!
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ok, thanks
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Quote"Vic-Luc" Thanks, and on a further note, I did go to see my Doctor today as I thought that I might have to get some anti-anxiety medication. She asked me why and I told her about my friend and Landmark(EST). She reacted immediately and told me about her sister in South Africa who had to resign from her job as Human Resourses Head of a big company because she refused
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I think there is a way to hold these shysters ethically and financially responsible, but I think too many people have been frightened off by threats of Lawsuits. What we have to keep reminding people of is our constitutional right to not be cohersed, bullied, "done to", that is, we have to let Landmark(EST) and all other groups who use this technique that we are not going to
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Quote"Vic-Luc"Quote"The Shadow"Hi Vic-Luc, hmmmm, feedback noted...I see what you mean...but I am not prepared to just cut her loose. OK, so I will have to rethink this... I AM ABSOLUTELY NOT NOT NOT :roll: going to sign up with the Landmark/EST Junkies....first of all because I do not have the money, and second of all because I do not have the stamina
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Quote"Vic-Luc"Quote"nutrino"..... what, exactly, qualifies these Know It Alls to speak so broadly on the subjest, anyway ? They paid for it, and in turn, became advertisers that pay they product they advertise. When asked if it is Pyramid Sales, Landmark "Leaders" will say it is not. But the structure follows the same structure as Pyram
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oh, :roll: (duh, silly me) OK, thanks!
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Quote"efe132"I am really sorry about what your family is going through right now. I did PSI Basic and I loved it. The way I knew about them was through work and not because a work mate told me but because the company I work for was offering to pay part of the cost of the basic. This company I work for has no relationship with PSI Seminars. It is a very successfull IT related m
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Quote"Vic-Luc"Quote"ON2 LF"QuoteON2 LF- You nailed it on the head. Well, if I were a city by-law officer I'd be pretty insulted to know that some scambagger outfit was operating right under my nose, making huge profit while doing so and not reporting its business activities as the law requires. Maybe this is why it is so important for landmark to inf
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Quote"ON2 LF"QuoteUPDATE; I just spoke to another friend of mine. She said one of her friend's got sucked in by Landmark and is now initiating a complaint process; she suggested that as many people as possible write to : The Attorney General of British Columbia (Canada) The Honourable Wally Oppal Room 232 Parliament Buildings P.O. Box 9055 Stn. Prov. Govt. V
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