LOL Rs!!!! Are you 'clear' now ?? LOL!! Can't resist anothe one: Byron Katie 1. Is it crap? 2. Can you absolutely know that it's crap? 3. How do you react when you think that thought? Notice all the effects of thinking that thought. 4. Who would you be without that thought?
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LOL!!!! ... and how about... The Secret: You create your own crap. LGAT Basic: No crapping as you're not allowed to go the toilet. LGAT Advanced: I AM Crap! Impact: I Am Crapman! Chinese Landmark: "I am an asshole" (audience: crap, crap, crap)
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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You're right, Sounds like this, describing NLP on wikipedia: Quote Freelance writer Steve Salerno states that Anthony Robbins "made NLP his own, refining it and personalizing it into what he christened "neuroassociative conditioning" (NAC). Salerno goes on to claim of Robbins (and other lifestyle trainers or systems) that he "actually fans the fires of discontent, maki
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:lol: That's pretty much the same as Quest, except the next step is to assist so that you can 'get what you missed' on the last course. And then they throw in a technique called 'clearing', so that they don't have to do most of the work themselves. So, they say you can manifest anything in your life, as long as you clear everything with everyone regularly,
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This does not sound good. Have things improved yet? At least she can't say anymore that you have to experience to know what its about. Well done on going through it and not getting yourself brainwashed. ACDC, ok. Can you tell us anything else about what happens there and what they teach? Did they do any anger exercises? How did they react to you being confrontational? Thanks for
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Maurice, can you explain what they mean when they say: Quote'breakdowns as a pathway - an actual access - to fulfilling what's possible' i.e. what specifically are you supposed to do to get from breakdown to whats possible? I'm sure there isn't a logical answer, but I'd like to hear whatever the non-logic is.
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Found this anonymous analysis on Factnet: Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 11:48 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Clinical explanation of how the training "works": See the following and you can relate everything that is described below to the journal posting which is a first hand account that is po
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About people with 'mental illness... already being broken' - this gets my blood boiling! Even professional psychiatrists and psychologists and doctors take this view - until you tell them exactly what happens on the training! Which is what I eventually did. Then my psychiatrist said that if he did one of these things he would also go psychotic. Not because he's 'already
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Hi Rs, looks like we are on the 'same page' - see my note under impact. :) Do they do the same processes on Klemmer?
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Found this list of processes in an article on the awareness page Quote Having reviewed copies of Impact's training materials and from interviewing former members and trainers, it is conclusive that they and their spinoffs, utilize the exercises and procedures of the Lifespring training. The following exercises are used at in their trainings: Ground rules Red-Black Game Feedback
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Looks like Otter is trying to prove reincarnation. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be evolving or ascending to a higher dimension. Seriously: before the interruption we were talking about specific details of the teachings and trainings on Impact and I think those details are critical - they are what I find most hopeful in recovering my sanity and they are damaging to the Organisation
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Copied this over from a Landmark thread, just to keep things together. Hope thats okay with you Nutrino. Quote nutrino Senior Member Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 353 Posted: 06-14-2007 07:00 PM Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- At present... there has been an overwhelming tendency for "self improvement se
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Well it looks pretty straight forward to me. Impact claims to be non-religious then it teaches people that they are God, that they can perform miracles with magic broomsticks and that they can ascend like Jesus to a fifth dimension. I can't imagine that going down too well in a religious community, no matter what you call it! But cult is good.
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Hi Rs I noticed in some of your posts that you're interested in how LGATs contradict christianity. Here is a link to some pages about an LGAT called Momentus that is run by a 'church' organisation. It analyses how the teachings are in opposition to christianity. Its also interesting for non-christians because it has articles on other things like how Momentus was started
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oops... messed up the quote.
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Rswinters suggested a separate thread for this and I think its an excellent idea. I've posted his comments below. Some problems: 1. Its intimidating taking on a large organisation when you have already been humiliated by them and wasted a lot of time and energy and money on their toxic junk. So its scary to start a legal action on your own and risk more of the same. 2. Past leg
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Damn, the message board auto-editor took out the extra spaces I made for pauses for the special words. Guess the message board hasn't been to Landmark to get the right pause Technology yet.
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Well that's great, the guy created a permanent four year old! Just shows what Results you can get if you are Open to the Possibilities !
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Dynoman, the only thing exImpact suffers from is a sense of humour and the strength of character to get himself out of that organisation. No offense, but what is Dynoman? Is that like... one of those SuperFriends characters from Impact? I'm sure most of us here would like to see these places shut down but I don't agree with your implied criticism that if we don't all rush of
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The scary thing is what they must've put you through to get to the point of believing all this. That's scary. Its one thing having wacky ideas in books, but putting people through all kinds of emotional and mental grinders to get there... its abominable. How generous of him to hang around here instead of ascending. Do you think they (Hans and Sally) really believe all this o
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exImpact and formerimpactgrad: So what is supposed to happen to people like you who walk out and spill the beans? No ascending? Or do you descend? Did they try to frighten you with things like that?
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Hi Rswinters, this makes sense now. You can't put yourself in someone else's shoes because you think they're your shoes. I don't know exactly what they do on Landmark, but on Quest there are two courses, one that creates simple selfishness (If it works for me good, if it doesn't work for you, that's your problem) - and that's just an 'unhealthy obsess
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Are you SURE they say its not a religion???? And then go to such blatant God-stuff?? That's brutally, brutally dishonest. Especially when they target people who already have a religion! I believe you, only not sure I'm reading right.
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Sorry, it wasn't on landmark, it was on quest, so don't try too hard to remember - it probably didn't happen :) On quest it was a few times a day, for a few minutes, to 'lift the energy', whatever that means. But I think also to get us into obedience mode, and to cause embarrassment because you feel pretty stupid suddenly trying to dance in the middle of a lecture.
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Yet another LGAT in south africa, called Ontologika - not operational yet, but clearly with connections to all the others. They offer 'support' - further 'conversations' and 'processes' for anyone who has done an LGAT and is 'carrying negative energy' or is 'disappointed' or' angry': From their website (community page) Quote
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Thanks Maurice, this is spot-on as usual. Reminds me of two other things: 1. They tell you how to sit - no crossed legs, no folded arms. Both feet on floor, hands on knees so that you're 'open' and 'not resisting'. You get really spaced out sitting like that for days on end. 2. They move you around. First you sit, then the trainer tells you to stand and swop
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Note that psychiatric casualties also occur in previously normal people with no history of psychiatric problems in themselves or their families. Otter, Quoteone of the largest problems with LGAT's, and you just mentioned it. They don't screen the applicants to choose the ones who are likely to remain emotionally healthy. They are not qualified to screen people to determine
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I think they forgot the "I Am Puking" part.
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Hello Rswinters Here is a link to an article on christianity and out of body experiences (OBEs) Based on my experience and the accounts of others on this board, I think the initial seminars are designed to induce OBEs and then associate the induced feeling of universal love, peace etc with the organisation and all the other teachings.It also gives the impression that the organisation ha
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