Quotequestion lady"Cult Thinking" ? Isn't that an oxymoron? Good one....LOL
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QuoteFerretMight I take a minute and actually express my opinion of the TIT trainings. Ex is right - the brain is checked in at the door when entering Impact. I mean, come on people, how can you believe the pseudo-reality Hans is spoon-feeding you? Ex has said many of the things they teach and they go against common sense. His reply to someone who is having issues is "Accept it or leave.
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I will not be sharing the nitty gritty on this website for all to read on what I discover in the realm of mental health malpractice. I am digging in, and I am going to connect with others who are just as passionate to see these LGAT's removed from our society. Or at least restricted by not being able to mess with the public psyche as they are currently doing. I am a passionate, and ca
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QuoteDynomanHere's a bit on malpractice- QuoteIn law, malpractice is a type of tort in which the misfeasance, malfeasance or nonfeasance of a professional, under a duty to act, fails to follow generally accepted professional standards, and that breach of duty is the proximate cause of injury to a plaintiff who suffers damages. It is committed by a professional or her/his subordinates or a
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QuoteDynomanI also said the court thing would probably be a futile approach as there aren't (most likely, at least) any laws they are breaking. This is where Dynoman is wrong. There are laws being broken. Its called healthcare malpractice. Mental health falls within this realm. Its just a matter of connecting the dots legally. In time the mental health malpractice will be these co
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oops didn't finish post Biblically its a daily relationship with Him and letting Him confront me on my behavior. Its daily going to the cross and letting God confront my behavior. It is also letting God say no to things I ask for. It is letting Him direct my life by his biblical guidelines. The Secret approaches God as a universal genie. While making it a one way interaction
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The Secret does approach the law of attraction from a spiritual aspect. This is also where they take spirituality and twist it. They approach that there is a universal power/god that is out there. I am a Christian and I believe in God. Yet the secret inspite of its spiritual element approach God like a spiritual genie. For those who come from a belief in God point of life. There i
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Isn't funny how the ones who are declaring how positive and non=judgemental they are come in here with being argumentive, and devisive in their posts. Just another example of the contradictions of The Secret and LGAT's philosphy. The creation of being oblivious to the negative that they bring to the table. What a joke. There behavior eventually does them in, and they still a
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I live in Oregon. Klemmer & Associates is based in California. There last 6 month long seminar is held on two seperate weekend seminars held in Arizona. Which state is going to be the correct state to address? My state? Oregon Klemmers state? California Samurai Camp? Arizona If it would help to call Arizona reps. I will.
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Gemini. I will not play your merry-go-round conversation with you. Please post away your perceptions though. They are very reinforcing for many of us who have walked away from such messed up philosphies out there. So, Please post away. Take care. I am not playing, nor am I biting. Find another to play with.
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I really believe this addressing the healthcare angle that the Mental health falls under is the achilles heel of LGAT's. These companies operate across the nation, and even other countries. I believe the Federal goverment level is where it needs address most. We can still pursue states, but I believe the Federal level is the place to strike from since these seminars are operationg acr
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Well, as I expected. Klemmer & Associates squirmed out of my request for a refund. Kinda like how they squirm out of being held liable for any pyschological damages by having participants sign waivers. If a company has the integrity that Brian Klemmer declares in all of his seminars, and makes such bold statements of how to break the 3R's in a relational conflict. Well, wha
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Just to let you know. I got a pm from a member that suggested we be careful in tipping our hand on how we are going about attacking these LGAT's. It was mentioned there are many moles from these LGAT's that are reading these posts of ours. It was suggested we communicate in a more secure fashion on these issues. So, How can we set up this more secure method of communication.
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I definitely understand your passion to expose LGAT's for what they are. I am there with you. I looked up the FBI link and waded through some of the information on what they investigate. I believe there is some credibility that could be legally connected to within the court systems on the healthcare front. Mental health has been developing into a aspect of healthcare in the past
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For those who are reading this message to find out about Klemmer & Associates? Especially if your thinking about attending any of there seminars in the future. I encourage you to read, read, and read all the topic threads on Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) companies out there. Klemmer & Associates is a LGAT so read up. Also read up on "The Secret" which i
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I tried to clean up my post, and resubmit it with a few added addtional comments to Gemini. But, it did not format in the manner I was intending. I will figure it out yet. Logic will figure it out for me.
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quote="Gemini"]pls explain the term lgat. i'm not familiar with that term. Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) quote="Gemini"]btw, logic is not the 'god' for me.Quote Why did you come to this website then. Here is a thought. The Law of Attraction may be at work here. The deeply buried God given logic deep within you that has been denied access to your bra
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Oops. I tried the quotes tool. I need to learn how to use better. Hope you will sort out last post. The second quote was my reply to the part of gemini's post that I tried to quote. My reponse and quote got inverted.
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QuoteGeminipls explain the term lgat. i'm not familiar with that term. best Large Group Awareness Training (LGAT) btw, logic is not the 'god' for me.Quote Why did you come to this website then. Here is a thought. The Law of Attraction may be at work here. The deeply buried God given logic deep within you that has been denied access to your brain is being attracted to a site wh
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The being deceived angle that you mentioned is where I believe is the achilles heel of LGAT's. I believe within this aspect there is a means to deliver some very heavy legal blows by closing the legal loop holes that are being taken advantage of by these companies. Lets figure out how to close em. Thanks for the correction on pointing out choice. Your absolutely correct. I am st
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David Schirmer’s is just applying “The Secret” philosphy “The Law Of Attraction” in his life is all. Watch the two videos back to back and then read the document on the link regarding the philosphy. Here is a sentence from a paragraph that is contained on this document. All material references is posted below on this post. I am putting emphasis on this sentence: “The entire world and everyo
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I have posted my last two posts on this topic feed only because of what I have read and saw since joining this website. It seems the most active members read this topic the most. I know I am coming from a spinoff company that Klemmer seems to be. But, I have really appreciated many of the ex impact people and what has been shared. I believe if we can put our heads, and passion together.
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My first suggestion for attacking these LGAT's is the legal waivers signed by participants. For me it is plain and simple. I signed a release prior to stepping into the experience of having my psyche deeply manipulated in seminar. I was told up front that I am responsible, and at choice for how I showed up and participated in seminars. I was told that the more I gave emotionally.
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After sharing alot of my experience in Klemmer, and reading much of the posts on LGAT's. I am frustrated at the legal system of our nation. There are so many loopholes, and ways that help these companies remain under the radar of the public eyes. Well, heres the example from history I want to bring up. Al Capone. He manipulated the legal system, and covered his illegal tracks so
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I have an idea that come from yesterdays insane interaction with the topic yesterday. Heres the topic for thread. Calling all lawyers, judges, legal aids, and legal minded people to help in a brainstorming conversation to discover ways to legally inflict blows to LGAT's, and ways to expose them to the public eye. I will post another post with why I feel this is a good topic to have.
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I got riled by the insanity loop of the posts given by otter/beaver also. Nothing like a merry=go=round of never ending garbage being spewed by a brainwashed LGAT participant to stir up the pain of being taken to the cleaners financially, and left with a blast zone with no end in my life as the ultimate result. I know why I chose to embrace Klemmer & Associates and stop the professi
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otter there is much more financial, and other destruction it created in my life. I will spare the details here. But, let me be very clear that they are catastrophic in nature. In time I will post them for all to read. In time. At present, I am working with a good pyschiatrist to sort out the mess at the moment. I am working on getting myself to be able to get back to the basics of my li
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Otter long enough to have the things that I created to go atomic and blast a crater across every aspect of my life. I spent over 2 years and over 10 thousand dollars spent going through Klemmers seminars. Plus another 10 thousand for a ex-wife that I remarried and got her into Klemmer and watched it create a worse monster in her than the one I divorced the first time around as she chose to
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Ghost Dancer can you please post the link to the FBI site you found? Thanks
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Otter. Thanks for your posts. There is nothing needed to be said or rebuttled in your posts. The garbage stinks very obviously to the rest of us members. Especially since I am a graduate of Klemmer & Associaties seminars that feed the same stinky philosphy as Impacts has. It is always refreshing to have someone like yourself come into this website and show the rest of us why we
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