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16 years ago
Rswinters
In my opinion Gemini has been up and down, back and forth, in and out, and every other way you can be with not making rational sense in posted messages so far. I personally have no idea what Gemini is trying to say in message posts. It seems as if there is a very tricky underlying devisiveness at play in them though. I advise for there to be extreme caution with messages posted by Gemin
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
In case I didn't post this here. Read this topic thread. Good information that is relavent to Klemmer & Associates seminars.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteSaneAgain I didn't see any good results at all in my own life, only in other people's lives... negativity and criticism are seen as a weakness or a failure to use or apply the training correctly, so most people will only talk about how wonderful their lives are working and how great the training is. So the main way I deluded myself was by seeing other people looking as if
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
It was a very subtle shift in how I looked at life overall. This philosphy actually shifts a perspective from accepting that I have a negative element to my beingness that could be removed by changing the meaning in my thinking to do so. This is where it gets really tricky. In some aspects this a valid statement. Yet, it needs to be kept in context with other truths. I can't contr
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
I am making sure to link things that I see are good to read, and have good points to hear as there will be people checking out this website to get information on Klemmer. Here is a good link to topic started. Actually every bit of information on this website dealing with LGAT's and how these companies perform their seminars, and the cause & affect of them on participants li
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Quotesonnie_deeWhen things started happening that caused me to re look at things, I spent a lot of time with conflicted emotions and thoughts, my own critial thinking didn't agree with landmarks philosophy and I didn't know which was right. As more happened, I turned to the people who had never taken me down the wrong path before and trusted their judgement. It was really only af
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
I have much to share on this topic. But will share later. The biggest was facing my core belief systems that the LGAT's seminars have you experience in excercises. Unfortunately. When you are shown how powerful and destructive your core belief systems are. What is not realized here is. You don't uncover a destructive core belief system without having another core belief sy
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteJack Oskar LarmOkay, so this Crap analogy can be applied to most things. Let's just not forget that our crap can also stink! :wink: I know mine definitely does... wheeewwy... It can be really stinky at times. LOL But, I at least will face, admit it, and work on changing me from it. Sorry, could not buy into the LGAT mindset that sees it as someone elses Crap. Sorry, can
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Rudeness was not intended. Sorry... I just don't like being so miss-quoted is all.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Since Klemmer & Associates chooses to peform psycho therapy in all of their seminars. I came across this topic thread. Has some pertinent information on practicing psychogical therapy without a license. In time, in time. The mental health malpractice of Klemmer & Associates will catch up with them. Here is the link for a interesting topic on this issue.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersKlemmer & Associates. Make your intestine clear + intestinal fortitude = a good healthy crap that is abundant. Intention+Mechanism=Results. Brian Klemmers Million dollar formula. Let me clean it up with a more smoother, and easy flowing equation. Make your Intestines clear + A Strong intestinal fortitudal push = A good healthy and abundant crap will appear. LOL..
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Sorry forgot the "NOT" in my sarcastic post... LOL
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteRswintersI should not look at myself? What I am bringing to the conflict?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Oh my gosh! You mean if I am having a relational conflict with another person? I should look at myself? What I am bringing to the conflict? But it is so much easier to see the other person as a negative, and thus its justifiable for me to remove myself from them. I am positive and can't be the problem. Okay, okay. I got it... The Secret, and LGAT logic and philosphy helps me
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Klemmer & Associates. Make your intestine clear + intestinal fortitude = a good healthy crap that is abundant. Intention+Mechanism=Results. Brian Klemmers Million dollar formula.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteMartinH Landmark mentions these studies all the time. But apparently Harvard and UC Berkeley studies have not addressed the core problem with the recruitment pressure at Landmark. Many participants of Landmark course end up arrogant and recruiting others. Some people don't even realize what they are doing mixing the seminar results and the recruting. Staff members at Landmark are mea
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteMartinHQuoteRswinters There have been independed studies of it done by Harvard and UC Berkeley which confirm its effectiveness. quote] Please be careful with how you cut & paste quotes. I did not say this quote. It was a quote I cut and pasted from Obi-Wans quote. Please don't change anothers post by manipulating like this. I am not for LGAT's. I am after ge
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuoteSaneAgainHi Rs, looks like we are on the 'same page' - see my note under impact. :) Do they do the same processes on Klemmer? I saw it, and read the web link you posted. I had to post it here. It was to good, and relavent not to post on this topic feed. Thanks for finding this link. I will post it here for others to see it.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
The prior post had these seminar mechanisms mentioned as being apart of Life Spring. They are also a part of Klemmer & Assoiciates arsenal in their 4 seminars. Ground rules Red-Black Game Feedback Arcs What do you want process Hug line Guided Imagery/Hypnosis Lifeboat Giver-Taker Nametags Nerdvana Contracts Catharsis So, read, read. Find out all you can find
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Found this and wanted to post it here. I am not a LDS but I am a Christian and find the concerns mentioned are common to all faiths in this regard. Klemmer & Associates fits the description of the company practices included in this statement. So. I posted here for your information. Concerns for LDS members The LDS Church has issued the following statement regarding "se
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Well folks. I look up Obi-Wans other post that he has contributed to this site. Looks like another apologist is amongst us. Stinky, stinky. Keep on posting Obi-Wan. Keeps us realizing the insanity of these companies and the affect on the participants ability to live in reality. Thanks for a glimpse of your reality though. Definitely one needing a space suit to be worn in. LOL
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Let the B.S fly. Wheeewwwyyy Stinky pew What was this post supppose to encourage? I must of missed it. Talk about being out there. I think I will pass on this supposed scientifically based post. LOL Unbelievable...
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
If you listen to the core of what is being said about this ladies experience. You will have a taste of what a Klemmer seminar is like. Every seminar will be different in how the participants bring the drama that the facilitators play with. See my post on this topic thread on how I compare a card trick to Klemmer seminars. Here is the link. Watch and listen to the basic elements that
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
http://www.answers.com/topic/large-group-awareness-training Ellen I briefly looked at site. very good information. I will read in detail later. Thanks elena. You provide good, and helpful information for us to look at. Much appreciation.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
I posted these two posts on different topic threads. But wanted to also place here for those wanting to be informed about Klemmer. In time there will be more people who will come forth about the real dealings of Klemmer for the public to see, and hear about. Until then. I will keep sharing, and exposing Klemmer & Associates for what it is. A LGAT and all the garbage philosphy tha
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotepragmatistQuoteRswinters That you ignore the people who have gone to these LGAT's and have had these philosphies destroy their lives as they tried to apply it in life. How did the Landmark Forum 'LGAT' destroy your life then? Mind telling us? If you're just going to throw everything and the kitchen sink, then obviously, this forum is useful for nothing but ranting.
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Jesus Christ and Salvation are not to be found in Klemmer & Associates definition of Christianity. There defininition of God is a genie of the universe. Sorry. Not a biblical definition by a long shot. Klemmer & Associates talk god talk. But thats all they do. Like I said Jesus Christ and Salvation is not part of the definition for them. Which makes the universe/g
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
I posted this on the topic thread of The Secret. Since Klemmer & Associates focus in their seminars is to break a participant down by confronting core belief systems and then deceptively replace these core belief systems with "The Secret" belief system by the end of their last seminar called "Samurai Camp". This is the belief system that Klemmer bait & sw
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
Sorry folks. I have come in here from the Klemmer & Associates front as far as LGAT's go. How can Impact be a religion if they are operating as a business for profit with these seminars? Or have I missunderstood what Impact is doing? I thought a religious organizitation needs to be a non-profit organization?
Forum: Large Group Awareness Training, "Human Potential"
16 years ago
Rswinters
QuotepragmatistRick, thanks for the heads up. Yes, I am well aware that is how you perceive me. Wanna hear something else even more interesting? I knew about your site as well as other, similar in nature, websites, prior to attending the Forum - and for a while, I thought Landmark Education was a scam. Until I saw people who were far more intellectual and experienced than me, come out of it w
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