It is difficult to sort out what was me, and what was and is Klemmer and this messed up philosphy based on the movie "The Secret". I am getting some realy professional help on this though. Hard not to want to see the federal government come in and shut down the whole LGAT arena of business in our nation. But, I do have to keep in mind that I let myself be led down this brainwashn
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If I read into your posts things not true. I apologize, and would love to hear your perspective on these matters.
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ajinajan It seems you don't approve of my posts about Klemmer. Are you a Klemmer Graduate? Have you gone through all of there seminars? I have been through all of them, and I am sharing from my experience about this companies seminars that are based on the philosphy from "The Secret." There seems to be an agenda to your posts that is not clear here. Are you in support
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If you re-read my last post you will find this statement in it. "Here is also where the emotionally somewhat healthy get off the LGAT wagon." I am sorry for putting more emphasis on the other part, that this was missed by you. I can see where my intense approach to the other aspects washed over this part where we are not in disagreement. I will work on not making so strong o
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In report you will read that Klemmer has not joined as a member of BBB, and they have not responded to BBB request for basic information. Without Klemmer cooperating by giving requested informaton to BBB. This is all they can say about Klemmer. "Without this information, the Bureau may not have current information concerning such things as the company's management or its nature o
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Did you not read the post? I you doubt the post go to BBB website and look it up yourself. Klemmer is choosing not to provide basic informatition that has been requested. Its plain and simple. Klemmer as a company has chosen not to respond to the Better Business Bureau requests for basic information about company to give BBB a starting place to evaluate them. A very good way to stay o
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I have already shared much on this website. But, I have been really facing myself and what made me so emotionally ripe to be sucked into this LGAT mindset that has destroyed my life as I applied it. Basically. I have faced how I was emotionally unhealthy to start with, and if you think about it. Anyone who attends these seminars are in the same place in various degrees of emotional health
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Wow, I have been doing a lot of thinking about finding out Klemmer has chosen not to cooperate with the Better Business Bureau and giving them requested basic company information to be able to allow BBB to evaluate the company for the public protection that this agency provides. This alone says more than I have been stating in my many posts about how destructive Klemmer seminars that are opera
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I took your question to heart and looked up Klemmer & Associates. What I discovered was Klemmer has chosen not to cooperate with the better business bureau by giving information for them to evaluate Klemmer as a company. Here is a cut & paste of what what found on the better business web site about Klemmer & Associates. File Open Date: November 2006 BBB Membersh
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Klemmer is operating on this platform. Also, I take full responsibility for my choices in applying Klemmer tools in a manner that has destroyed my life. At the same time, I am calling Klemmer into account as being a LGAT that operates on the same basis as the rest of them with creating the same relational conflicts and destruction as any of the many listed on this site. Lack of bad p
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If you want to read negative about Klemmer & Associates? Read the many threads on the movie "The Secret". The final 6 month long seminar that wraps up a Klemmer participants experience of going through their seminars is grounded very strongly on this movie and its theme of the Law of attraction. So, read those threads on this movie. Klemmer makes it very clear that this
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The drama in my life that I have been sharing as a result of my involvement in Klemmer is way more common than it appears from lack of publicity on the negative aspects of Klemmers influence on some peoples lives. Believe me it exists in every seminar that takes place in Klemmer. The biggest difference is how Klemmer has damage control in place that greatly minimizes the public from hearing
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I take full responsibility for how I was emotionally unhealthy up front going into Klemmer. Yet, this is exactly what I am hearing the point of most of the posts on this site. There needs to be accountability for how this psychotherapy is being done in a non-professional manner by unlicensed people. Which is causing psychiatric conditions in some people as they are applying these LGAT's p
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My response to this guy was this. Your right... You don't know where to start. You are blinded by this messed up philosphy. Good luck in what it creates relationally in your life. You can't even see how your very stance of being unable to allow for me to be in disagreement with you here is how messed up this stuff is. See ya, *** It is not worth getting into a
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I just got a reply from the guy I sent my email to that I posted. Here is the logic that is ran into when things fail in LGAT's. It is never the LGAT's problem. It is always how a participant chooses to be influenced by these supposed tools that are not either good or bad. Regardless the context they are delivered within. Here it is: HI ***, I'm not sure where to eve
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I don't know how to do the links and all. But what rrmoderator posted on this thread on 11-25-2006 09:25 AM Is very applicable here with connection to what I have been posting. Especially around 13 liabilities of encounter groups, some of which are similar to characteristics of most current mass marathon psychotherapy training sessions: So true, so true. Especially reading it f
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As you can tell. I am not afraid to be known by those in Klemmer & Associates. I have not given my name on this website. Yet, there has not been one word that I have posted on this site and the messages that I have posted. Not one word am I afriad of facing within a court of law. I have been sharing my experience of Klemmer & Associates and what I believe about this company
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Klemmer & Associates doesn't have to address any negative accusations from former participants. Their participants take care of this dirty work and thus leaving Klemmer in a place as a company to wash hands of any negative fallout that occurs. Like I said in several posts throughout this website about Klemmer & Associates. Brian Klemmer is a very smooth operator in keepi
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Please pass on any and all information on any investigations that are being done on any and all LGAT's. I am very serious about wanting to be involved in legally shutting down LGAT's. I went through Klemmer & Associates and I want to see this company and all LGAT's shut down legally, and would also want to be involved and see any legal actions agianst these companies.
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ExImpact. Thanks for your response. Please don't hear me trying to not hold LGAT's accountable here. Read the rest of my posts that I have made on other threads and you will see very clearly how we are in agreement here. I am with you on desiring to see these LGAT's shut down, and scurged from the face of the earth. That came out pretty harsh didn't it? You bet i
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LGAT's are very correct in this one aspect. We all are at choice. When someone is choosing to embrace LGAT's philosphy such as this person. Unfortunately all the LGAT is tapping into a mindset that was pre-existing in this person and was just nourished into bloom by the LGAT training. Narcissism, humanism, and hedonism. Unfortunately this exist in us all to one degree or an
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I have posted many posts recently. I have just stepped out my entanglement in Klemmer & Associates philosophy in my life. So, this is all very fresh for me... I did not post the organizations which I have discovered over the past few months that I believe to be working with people and addressing belief systems that we hold in a very emotionally sound manner in peoples lives. I found
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Rick, I hope this is an appropriate subject matter. I am a man that desires to continue my growing as a man in being more of a emotionally healthy, and relationally safe person by being a emotionally healthy person in my interactions with others. So, I would be interested to hear from the many members who have wasted years within LGAT's training. I was only enmeshed for almost 2 year
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This coming July 2007 would be two years for my stepping into Klemmer and the couple that I shared about I believe by what they told me have been involved around 3 years give or take. Sorry, I was rounding the dates and was more concerened in telling the destructive story versus checking my dates. I reread the post and noticed the error. Sorry for that.
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Here is an example; The bizarre part is that the couple I know here don't even see the destructiveness of Klemmers philosphy on their own lives. Its plain as day to the outside observer who knows them, and the details shared here. I know of two Klemmer & Associates graduates husband & wife with 3 kids. I know them personally and they got involved in Klemmer a year befor
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After Going through all 4 of their seminars and spending two years of my life being a strong supporter involved in helping as a volunteer staff on their different seminars. I saw a company that has made an art of covering the negative. Not sure how they compare to other LGAT's but Brian Klemmer seems to be a very keen company owner that has learned the fine art of controlling public inform
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What is the possibility to get the Attorney General to address the psychological aspect of how LGAT's are messing around in the depths of people and their psyche at the depths that we pay professionals to help us sort out. While LGAT's have participants sign waivers releasing companies of responsibility of any mental and emotional damages prior to attending seminars. I searched my p
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Please include Klemmer & Associates along with the other LGAT's when you talk to the Attorney General. I agree that these LGAT's need to be shut down. Your story is far to common. I have different variables in my experience. Yet just as destructive. Maybe we can get the Attorney General to read the posts on this website to maybe start a investigation on all LGAT's
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Its this very aspect of narcissism that I confronted within myself that opened me up to spending two years of my life going through Klemmer & Associates seminars and after spending over 10 thousand dollars on this experience and embracing this LGAT's philosophy for my life. Narcissism within myself is what I faced. I faced that the only way to apply these tools that Disconnect is r
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Disconnect makes a solid argument for tools here. Yet he seems to miss the point of what is being shared on this website. I hope disconnect will open his eyes to hearing the relational pain, and destruction that is being created in our society by people refusing to address within themselves everyones tendancy towards narcissism in our lives. We all fight it, and must overcome this destru
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